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Re: Liverpool Thread(I Just Can't Get Enough!!)


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We got him for free because City has better players than him and wanted to offload his contract. Anyway, as he is 32, his value wouldnt be more than 5M ....To think we got Bellamy for FREE..
thanks city, he´s like 15 m. player atm...
We got him for free because City has better players than him and wanted to offload his contract. Anyway, as he is 32, his value wouldnt be more than 5M ....
We got him for free because City has better players than him and wanted to offload his contract. Anyway, as he is 32, his value wouldnt be more than 5M ....
Sigh.
I have nothing against Gerrard. How could i, i don't even know the man.
What i am saying is that people are way too quick to label a player a legend. It takes perspective and hindsight to do this. Being a legend for a club is also not necessarily being a top class player. I watch football for 40 years and sometimes i have the feeling that people tend to exagerate the importance of current players. It is not because right now a player is fantastic, that he will be seen as fantastic in 20 years. But all that is not important.
I don't like the reactions about what is merely an opinion...i have the right to state my opinion even if it is complete bullshit. I don't care if people say that it is complete bullshit (if often is, like most of the things said on an internet forum, otherwise we would all be managers of big clubs, no?). But what i don't like is the fact that people are searching for a hidden agenda or think that because i think Gerrard is overrated that i hate Gerrard. In all fairness, i don't hate anybody, not even persons i actually know in person.
I can understand that Liverpool fans are absolutely fond of Gerrard as he only played for Liverpool and indeed is a very good player. What i was saying was that it would be economically not bad for Liverpool to sell him now...this is absolutely the right moment. I can understand that this shocks some people because as a Liverpool fan they absolutely love football. I stated in another thread that football is all about sentiment and i still think that is the case...but sometimes it's not bad to be a litle bit rational about things like that. After all, when Gerrard's active carreer is over, Liverpool can offer him a place in the staff of the club...
Wow! Well the Suarez's second story sounds more believable but if the first one is the case, the Suarez went WAY over the border and deserves the very big ban.
The important bits from the ruling are here:
Mr Evra was a credible witness. He gave his evidence in a calm, composed and clear way. It was, for the most part, consistent, although both he and Mr Suarez were understandably unable to remember every detail of the exchanges between them.
'Mr Suarez's evidence was unreliable in relation to matters of critical importance. It was, in part, inconsistent with the contemporaneous evidence, especially the video footage.
For example, Mr Suarez said that he pinched Mr Evra's skin in an attempt to defuse the situation. He also said that his use of the word 'negro' to address Mr Evra was conciliatory and friendly. We rejected that evidence.
'To describe his own behaviour in that way was unsustainable and simply incredible given that the players were engaged in an acrimonious argument. That this was put forward by Mr Suarez was surprising and seriously undermined the reliability of his evidence on other matters.
'There were also inconsistencies between his accounts given at different times as to what happened.'
I think what riles me the most after seeing all this is the way that someone (presumably from LFC) was leaking stuff to the press that wasn't true - such as it being 'Negrito' when it was in fact negro, or that Evra said 'sudaca' when both players agree he said South American in English. From the beginning it's looked to me like Liverpool tried to play this really dirty imo, and I'm just fascinated that now the 115 report is out there the majority of hardcore Liverpool fans are still supporting Suarez. He'd of been hung out to dry by United in my opinion.