Dominic
Serie A
- 19 August 2003
Re: Liverpool Thread
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Hmmmm .. dont you think it's worrying that Liverpool haven't made any signing yet?
Anyway, that CL final Ref was almost 'killed' by a fan during a euro qualifier:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/6715785.stm
Has the Mascherano deal been done then? I thought you's lot had just loaned him off the irons, in that case if no money's changed hands, he's still owned by MSI and that Korchabian fella and could still be sent wherever they decide. On another note must say the last few days on your RAWK forum have been piss funny, the state you lot got into over the Anderson and Nani signings was unbelievable.
So once someone pays the asking price for either Tevez or Mascherano, does that mean they're no longer owned by MSI or does that mean West Ham will get the money and MSI just follow the players to their next club?Mascherano is on loan for 18 months. will cost £15m to buy him one loan deal expires. He is still owned by MSI.
What are you talking about Ecchi! We won the charity shield, get ya' facts right damn it! ](*,)
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That was just the latest example. What other set of fans steal tickets from their fellow supporters or out of the hands of children? We know what happened in Athens, and Liverpool fans were the cause of most of the trouble there.'
why were there no problems when barca played arsenal? why were there no problems when monaco played porto? why were there no problems milan vs juve? It seems the whole of liverpool live in denial. Seems your blamming everyone under the sun except your own supporters, seems they should take SOME responsiblity for there actions. Is not as if the athens police forced them at gunpoint to rush the stadium..... Is not as if they were forced to go to athens withtout tickets... cmon man...reckon it's come as a result of liverpool supporters with genuine tickets who got locked out threatening to sue uefa
they were warned by the club in advance of the number of blag tickets floating around and the large number of fans travelling to athens, uefa came out with their usual bullshit statement of nobody will get in without a genuine ticket but at the end of the day they failed in preventing ticketless fans getting into the stadium
if there's any video evidence of liverpool supporters robbing tickets off their own fans and ticketless fans rushing the gates then those people should be given banning orders
but as i said a day or 2 after the final, uefa need to take a long hard look at their arrangements
why were there no turnstiles at the ground?
why weren't stricter checks carried out when they knew 1000's of blag tickets were on the market?
why did they use fencing a 5 year old kid could knock over?
why were the finalists only given 17,000 tickets each?
why did they give 20,000 tickets to other associations and sponsors with many of these ending up on the black market?
the whole thing was a shambles, they knew liverpool supporters would travel in numbers and tickets were in short supply yet did very little to prevent any potential trouble, think they can thank their stars that united didn't get to the final as well cos there'd have been at least 100,000 english supporters in athens on the day of the final which would've been a recipe for disaster
one other thing, will they stop travel companies selling large numbers (more than tickets available) of chartered flights to games like this? like fuck they will cos at the end of the day some fucker is making money and that's all that matters
i'm not a big fan of the g14 but i hope they tell uefa to fuckin do one and set up their own competition, platini's arse'll fall out if they do
why were there no problems when barca played arsenal? why were there no problems when monaco played porto? why were there no problems milan vs juve? It seems the whole of liverpool live in denial. Seems your blamming everyone under the sun except your own supporters, seems they should take SOME responsiblity for there actions. Is not as if the athens police forced them at gunpoint to rush the stadium..... Is not as if they were forced to go to athens withtout tickets... cmon man...
Uefa's director of communications William Gaillard said he was confident European football's biggest night of the year would not be wrecked by crowd trouble, but warned that ticketless fans would be turned away tomorrow night.
"They have been told their chance to get in is very, very small," he said. "But we have taken all the measures it is possible to take, including co-ordination with all the different police forces.
"The two groups of supporters have a tradition of good behaviour and at this point we are expecting that to continue."
Parry says that UEFA should focus on their own shortcomings rather than shift the blame onto supporters.
The statement released on Liverpoolfc.tv reads: "The shortcomings in the management of the situation in Athens were apparent to anyone who was there and these latest comments from Uefa should not deflect attention from that reality.
"What is most surprising about the latest comments from Mr Gaillard is that on the eve of the final, he quite rightly commented that Liverpool supporters 'have a tradition of good behaviour'.
"Let's not forget that these same supporters who Mr Gaillard is claiming are now the worst in Europe were praised by Uefa President Michel Platini after our semi-final victory against Chelsea only last month, commended for their behaviour in Istanbul in 2005 and actually honoured by Uefa at a gala dinner in Monte Carlo in 2001 as joint Supporters of the Years with Alves after the UEFA Cup final.
"To have a stadium with no counting system and no turnstiles is unforgivable for any standard of game, let alone a major final.
"We produced a report for UEFA a week beforehand predicting, sadly, all of the things that did go wrong. We told UEFA our intelligence suggested there were 5,000 forged tickets in existence. They knew and we knew that thousands of fans would travel without tickets and we stressed the need for a proper check at the outer cordon."
Meanwhile, British sports minister Richard Caborn, who is set to meet with UEFA president Michel Platini tomorrow, says that the UEFA should stop playing 'the blame game' and take responsibility for the poor organisation of the final.
"This is not about UEFA versus Liverpool or UEFA versus England fans but UEFA must stop playing the blame game and stop pointing fingers at people," said Caborn.
"What we need to do is look at the evidence of the last season and the evidence in the report which I'm due to get tomorrow and move forward.
"This is about finding solutions, not looking back and saying what has happened but more about how to stop this happening in the future.
"I have given this message to Rick Parry this morning in a phone call and I will be giving the very same message to Michel Platini when I see him tomorrow."
why were there no problems when barca played arsenal? why were there no problems when monaco played porto? why were there no problems milan vs juve? It seems the whole of liverpool live in denial. Seems your blamming everyone under the sun except your own supporters, seems they should take SOME responsiblity for there actions. Is not as if the athens police forced them at gunpoint to rush the stadium..... Is not as if they were forced to go to athens withtout tickets... cmon man...
I bet there wasnt that many Milanese there without tickets...
I dont think its all the scousers fault, far from it nut they seem most culpable, if uefa had fucked up that much surely there would have been more complaints from Milan...
