FIFA 18 (Console Versions)

Playing the vanilla game on WC, assisted everything and absolutely loving it, it literally has me jumping out my seat on occasions, thought those days had gone since pes6.

Once I find the game becoming stale I will experiment with sliders.

Definitely the best game since pes6 and FIFA 09 for me.
 
Having a really hard time at the moment and had to turn it off to stop myself launching the controller through my tv :MAD:

Just finding defending hard to get to grips with and tactics seem to make zero difference to my AI controlled players, feels like the players all fall back into a rigid formation when we've not got possession with no pressure on the ball and nobody marking opposition players so I'm constantly switching player only to find that once I've got control and got them into a decent position the ball has already gone, same goes if I use secondary pressure. the AI player's starting position is usually so far from the ball that it's already gone before they've moved, I've had to resort to using a zoomed out camera then manually switching to one of my defenders with the right stick and just wait for the ball to get into my 3rd of the pitch before even attempting to put pressure on the ball, kind of works but deep down is a bit of a shit way to defend.

I've tried playing around with tactics but all I seem to see is my AI controlled players just stood around with their thumbs up their arses waiting for me to take over, it's as though I need to grow another pair of arms or two just so I can use more controllers :PP , the CPU controlled players can get touch tight to me or close me down quickly, I want to be able to defend like that but it's impossible with the positions my AI controlled players take up.
 
Chris Davies said:
I replayed the game three times on Professional, World Class and Legendary, and their pass accuracy was 88%, 90% and 70% respectively. I lost the first two games 2-0, but then drew 1-1 on Legendary because they weren't playing tiki-taka.

It just doesn't make sense to me! On Professional/World Class, putting the pass error slider up to 100 results in buggy lobs and crosses, but ground passes are still incredibly accurate. On Legendary, 50-70 pass error results in a lower pass accuracy!

I feel like assisted passing is the way to go because otherwise I just can't put moves together quickly enough to beat the AI's defence
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I'm playing on WC and the pass % for both my team and the cpu is somewhere between mid 70% - low 80%. I can understand how it wouldn't be that fun if this is not balanced. The only teams that are noticeably better at passing are teams like the top 6 in the PL but unfortunately I don't remember the %. Doubt it's anywhere close to 90% though. That thing about legendary is intriguing though, maybe I will give it a shot! (Edit: I did and the cpu was at 80% so I don't really know what was different from my WC games, but it was just one game).

I'm using the pass error and speed from Matt's sliders. I think 60 pass error 35 speed. I wouldn't increase pass error further, I think maybe it can affect the CPUs decision making, so they could prefer safer passes -> tiki taka. Not sure though. Defending space and blocking passes rather than just hunting down the ball also works better and usually forces them to play a riskier bad pass.

As far as the human side goes I mix and match! So I use passing at semi, shooting and crossing also at semi, but keep lob and through balls at assisted. I can't play tiki-taka with lob passes, It just means that switching play is not the "give up possession" button. So by mixing these I'm keeping a nice balance between "I can't ping pong" and "I don't misplace every second pass" because you really have to use all of these types of passes in a typical buildup play from the back.

One thing I would like to try as well is assisted passing with a big pass/first touch error ONLY for the human side, it shouldn't affect the decision making since I'm making the decisions, but I suppose it could screw up certain things and well I'm happy with the current balance.
 
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Custom tournament and just add from the National Teams base manually.

Zlatan not with Manu ? didn't notice that yet!!
 
I feel you but, trust me, stuck with it until it clicks. You need to focus more on anticipating the AI's next pass and cutting the passing lanes than going in for tackles. This will pressure them into rushed passes which will lead to tackling opportunities. Don't rush in, don't over pressure, wait for the chance to step in. Feels amazing when the penny drops.
 
Can anyone tell me if we have to edit custom tactics for my team before starting a career mode or can they be adjusted afterwards.
I guess the same question for adjusting the tactics and stadiums for AI teams. Thanks
 
Pleasantly surprised by 18 offline in career mode im playing on legendary my only issue is theres too many chances for both teams me and the AI end up with 17+ plus shots each

Is there any slider settings to tighter up AI defending? Im fine with my own giving away shots because that will improve with my defending
 
What we will most likely be looking at is bumping down the Sprint value from 51 to 49. I personally like 49 because FIFA tends to have extra "run-off" animation, which is really supposed to be momentum, but it slides too much and results in the sluggish feel at times. In addition, it affects the proper differentiating of players, especially in terms of pace.

For pass error, remember that pass error is at it's highest limit of 60 currently. This is just where we stopped, so there is room to go down actually. Pass error, relative to the pass speed, has room to go down because the CPU needs to make more risky passes, which allows the pass % to go down. When they are at such a high error, they will opt for safer passes, which increases the pass %.
 
I absolutely despise the game on World Class, but finding it thoroughly enjoyable on a mixture of Professional and Legendary. So much so I can't decide which setting I prefer best.

So weird how World Class feels like such a different game compared to the other two settings. Anyone else find that or similar?

Edit to say - also using @Matt10 sliders. So appreciative for all the work put into them, thanks!
 
Marching On Together said:
I absolutely despise the game on World Class, but finding it thoroughly enjoyable on a mixture of Professional and Legendary. So much so I can't decide which setting I prefer best.

So weird how World Class feels like such a different game compared to the other two settings. Anyone else find that or similar?

Edit to say - also using @Matt10 sliders. So appreciative for all the work put into them, thanks!
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Ahhh, man this FIFA is playing so good right now... I also am kinda leaning a bit towards Pro difficulty while I get a better grasp of Semi passing

I'm jumping between Pro and WC... My questions is: what can I do to make the AI more lethal in the attack in Pro? @Matt10 , I know it might be hard to get them be aggressive in Pro, right now I'm using the OS sliders. Either way , thanks a lot, its very enjoyable.
 
For those not liking the passing speed on manual, bump up your "power bar" setting to 60. I like it slower because you can make more subtle passes now. And if you want to ping it, you can always perform a driven pass.
 
Marching On Together said:
I absolutely despise the game on World Class, but finding it thoroughly enjoyable on a mixture of Professional and Legendary. So much so I can't decide which setting I prefer best.
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Pro is indeed enjoyable but the CPU defence can be too lax. What I find very interesting is what people are saying about legendary. Can anyone elaborate on what's really different on legendary/what to look for? Currently playing WC, wondering if I'm missing out! Only tried one match on Legendary but didn't spot an obvious difference.
 
fishcake said:
Just finding defending hard to get to grips with and tactics seem to make zero difference to my AI controlled players, feels like the players all fall back into a rigid formation when we've not got possession with no pressure on the ball and nobody marking opposition players so I'm constantly switching player only to find that once I've got control and got them into a decent position the ball has already gone, same goes if I use secondary pressure.

I've tried playing around with tactics but all I seem to see is my AI controlled players just stood around with their thumbs up their arses waiting for me to take over.
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You could try adjusting the line sliders. I find there is much too much space on the pitch as well. It doesn't seem at all realistic to me, and makes it hard to press as a defense, regardless of custom tactics in a match. I find using these brings out more individuality between teams, more realistic formations, and better midfield battles. It also makes changing custom tactics in game actually have an effect. It also slows the AI down as they have to wait for passing opportunities in a more crowded midfield.
Line Height - 55/55
Line Length - 32/32
Line Width - 35/35
It can help to increase AI first touch error a bit and decrease their pass speed a few points to have more realistic midfield tussles too IMO. Still working on the optimum line sliders as I need to try with dozens of teams, but these worked well with FIFA 16.
 
does anyone know how to change your “favorite team” at the start, ive an idea about editing the stadium names but i need to change the favorite teams so the option goes to the league i want to edit
 
goalgerd said:
does anyone know how to change your “favorite team” at the start, ive an idea about editing the stadium names but i need to change the favorite teams so the option goes to the league i want to edit
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You should be able to change the country above the teams in the selection screen.
 
Chris Davies said:
Out of interest Winston, default sliders? Default controls (assisted)? What difficulty level?
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Default sliders, assisted passing except manual lob and through ball, Tactical defending, Professional difficulty. Currently just playing Exhibition matches.

Experienced players will find Pro too easy but it's a good level for me.

I also tend to stick to English League 2, Scottish and Norwegian leagues as they tend to have quite a few teams set up with a more direct style of play.

I like playing long ball football myself, almost as an antidote to the ping-pong ground passing that has been ubiquitous in football games for the past 10+ years. I've always felt it's a bit of a cop-out by the developers because laser-guided ground passing is essentially just 2-D join-the-dots on a football pitch, so easier for them to program for the CPU to play this way and also easier for the human to ping-pong the ball around the pitch. But it's too narrow a representation of football.

I like to see a physical, scrappy and long/high-ball type of football being represented in games as it suggest the gameplay engine has more depth and is capable of enabling more than one way of playing effectively. FIFA18 is pretty good at allowing a range of styles of play, both for the human player and the way the CPU plays. With the right team, long ball football can be fairly effective in FIFA18, which I just love to see. It brings more of a tactical element into my thinking, rather than just ping-ponging one-twos, shoot, goal.
 
winston said:
Default sliders, assisted passing except manual lob and through ball, Tactical defending, Professional difficulty. Currently just playing Exhibition matches.

Experienced players will find Pro too easy but it's a good level for me.

I also tend to stick to English League 2, Scottish and Norwegian leagues as they tend to have quite a few teams set up with a more direct style of play.

I like playing long ball football myself, almost as an antidote to the ping-pong ground passing that has been ubiquitous in football games for the past 10+ years. I've always felt it's a bit of a cop-out by the developers because laser-guided ground passing is essentially just 2-D join-the-dots on a football pitch, so easier for them to program for the CPU to play this way and also easier for the human to ping-pong the ball around the pitch. But it's too narrow a representation of football.

I like to see a physical, scrappy and long/high-ball type of football being represented in games as it suggest the gameplay engine has more depth and is capable of enabling more than one way of playing effectively. FIFA18 is pretty good at allowing a range of styles of play, both for the human player and the way the CPU plays. With the right team, long ball football can be fairly effective in FIFA18, which I just love to see. It brings more of a tactical element into my thinking, rather than just ping-ponging one-twos, shoot, goal.
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im sticking to pro too not having played fifa in 10 years
 
Wow, gotta be honest, I'm surprised at how effusive the praise for FIFA 18 is in here. I agree that it can be really superb, and I think EA is crazy close to something truly special, but I'm surprised that people haven't been more critical of the overpowered attacking and the defensive AI.

I guess for everyone who plays with sliders the overpowered attacking isn't as much a problem because you can limit some of the worst issues, but for those of us who play multiplayer and like to keep it closer to default settings, the ease of creating chances through a combination of really accurate passing and upgrades to the dribbling, shooting and crossing systems is a pretty impactful issue, at least for me, and really takes away from the satisfaction of scoring.

The overpowered attack - and I'm not talking about defending against the CPU or other people as much as just how easy I find it to create chances playing on Legendary - isn't the biggest issue though, IMO. Some of the defensive AI is just terrible. I don't know if the devs have intentionally programmed the CPU defenders to do stupid shit to replicate the multiplayer experience, but too often I'm able to exploit weird/poor/nonsensical decisions by the CPU defense. Skill moves, for example, will often freeze a defender and they just won't move; also, the AI run tracking is super lax, and as a result there's way too many open forward runs.

The list of things that this game does right is FAAAARRR longer than what it does wrong this year, but these two big issues for me are holding it back and I'm really surprised that I don't see more people mentioning it. But I'm glad that so many people are enjoying the game and I'll just hope that for myself EA tweaks these things because what they've done right this year is really impressive.
 
manmachine said:
Pro is indeed enjoyable but the CPU defence can be too lax. What I find very interesting is what people are saying about legendary. Can anyone elaborate on what's really different on legendary/what to look for? Currently playing WC, wondering if I'm missing out! Only tried one match on Legendary but didn't spot an obvious difference.
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Personally I think the way to go is to always try to play on Legendary and then use sliders if you need to make things easier. For me, that way you get the best out of the AI, because they'll do things in Legendary they won't do on lower difficulties. You'll see more intelligent runs, use of skills, better passing movements, smarter defending, etc.

But I know some people are saying they think the difficulties are a little odd this year, and to be honest I've pretty much only played Legendary, so maybe others who've played more of the settings would say something different.

goalgerd said:
does anyone know how to change your “favorite team” at the start, ive an idea about editing the stadium names but i need to change the favorite teams so the option goes to the league i want to edit
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I think you change it in your profile settings. At least that's how it was in the past.
 
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mfmaxpower said:
Wow, gotta be honest, I'm surprised at how effusive the praise for FIFA 18 is in here. I agree that it can be really superb, and I think EA is crazy close to something truly special, but I'm surprised that people haven't been more critical of the overpowered attacking and the defensive AI.

I guess for everyone who plays with sliders the overpowered attacking isn't as much a problem because you can limit some of the worst issues, but for those of us who play multiplayer and like to keep it closer to default settings, the ease of creating chances through a combination of really accurate passing and upgrades to the dribbling, shooting and crossing systems is a pretty impactful issue, at least for me, and really takes away from the satisfaction of scoring.

The overpowered attack - and I'm not talking about defending against the CPU or other people as much as just how easy I find it to create chances playing on Legendary - isn't the biggest issue though, IMO. Some of the defensive AI is just terrible. I don't know if the devs have intentionally programmed the CPU defenders to do stupid shit to replicate the multiplayer experience, but too often I'm able to exploit weird/poor/nonsensical decisions by the CPU defense. Skill moves, for example, will often freeze a defender and they just won't move; also, the AI run tracking is super lax, and as a result there's way too many open forward runs.

The list of things that this game does right is FAAAARRR longer than what it does wrong this year, but these two big issues for me are holding it back and I'm really surprised that I don't see more people mentioning it. But I'm glad that so many people are enjoying the game and I'll just hope that for myself EA tweaks these things because what they've done right this year is really impressive.
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It was pretty easy to spot these issues in the demo. In that regard, it seems more like Fifa 15. But it's nearly impossible to discuss since everyone is playing a different game. Different settings, different sliders. For me, sliders should be released about one month later from day-one. That way you can have good feedback from the comunity. Now every single concern about the game get the same reply: fix it with sliders. It's really toxic. And it's not really different form the git gud meme on fifa official forum.
 
goalgerd said:
does anyone know how to change your “favorite team” at the start, ive an idea about editing the stadium names but i need to change the favorite teams so the option goes to the league i want to edit
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Profile settings I think... I got stuck with Portland Timbers:DOH: for some reason until I figured it out.
 
Legendary is too simple on assisted settings. I will try manual settings for the first time and hopefully that will change the game for me. I also notice that I and the CPU hit the bar too may times per game. Love the dribbling and the passing in the game. Little touches that made a great difference from FIFA 17.
 
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