Ill, sorry, I'll respond to this as I'm a bit bored:
A HURF DURF
You honestly don't expect an answer for this do you?
Can you seriously not connect the dots?
Obviously I can, however thats not the point is it. You use fifa as an excuse to not be critical of pes, yet we, as pes fans, are probably the most critical of fifa. It works both ways, so accept it and try not to get so angered by people giving pes a fair review of its poorness.
First run out on a new console, tear it a new one next year if you must but I don't have enough experience in the computer game industry thingy to properly analyse if Konami are at fault here (and if so, how much). Of course you seem more qualified and in the know so perhaps you can enlighten us
Well I dont need to be to technical, we only have to look at the other games released and the amount of, or lack of, slowdown they have. Fifa is an example of more data (graphics, animation, sound, etc) yet not having slowdown. Comparing its to its peers means its a technically poor game. I don't need a degree in computer engineering to be able to tell that. You even accept it faults as its the "first" run on a new console. So you accept its technically poor as its the "first run" yet quesiton me to explain why its technically poor even when you already acknowlege it?
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Seeing as you are so desperate to defend PES by saying fifa has been shit for years, Ill explain why you are only showing even more ignorance by doing so.
Hmmmm, couldnt come up with a counter argument so resort to spelling. Youre one to talk with your "literature".
A surprising amount I'd of said considering the amount of Fifa threads I've noticed on every PES forum for years now.
Can't say I've noticed it to be honest. This year there is a definite change I agree. The other years Ive been here its mostly a single thread with people mostly saying its crap. Which untill last year, it was, and even last years effort wasnt especially good.
The bolded bit is just ungh. No one bought it, yet it outsold PES and Pro Evo sites always had big threads about the game.
I thought the discussion was based on the people on here and their opinions/thoughts? Now we are discussing for the whole world and its sales?
Overlooking that, somehow, you have played 2 Fifa games and I'm guessing a lot more Pro Evo games. There be a reason for this.
Fifa has a good atmosphere, but PES is genuinely enthralling and all round greetness
Yes Ive had all the iss/pes games since the the snes release. But unlike Liverpool, I dont feel the need to "support" PES and Konami in their poor days. After all they are a company looking to make a profit, not some charity organisation. Although by the sound of some people on here you would think they cure cancer, help 3rd world debt and keep the kids off the streets with pes. And for that we should give them money. Ive become bored, as a singleplayer, with the ML since pes4 and they have continued to not develope the game. After last years poor effort on the 360 I lost my patience and will no longer buy the game till its gets good for me again.
I appreciate you trying to school me but oh well :]
Its worth a try, even if I can help atleast one person think for themselves it will be a victory. You actually already do think for yourself, I just dont agree with it
Anyway, from your posts it seems to you feel people should continue to support pes & konami because of all the previous fun that has been had on older versions. Ignoring whether the latest release is actually good or not. Konami being a business and the bottomline being what they care about do you think that position will improve the game or hinder its development? A lot of people, myself included, feel that continually buying the game in its poorer state and not being critical will lead to what had happend at EA with fifa. A poor game being churned out year after year with superficial additions to improve the PR talk and give a "reason" to get the latest version. The reason, which you yourself comment on, why fifa has been looked upon as a poor game by the majority of us for the last few years. Its been said that EA decided to make a brand new game[engine] as, even though sales were good each year, they wanted to recieve a good response [read: less negativity] from the press and hardcore gamers. So you see being critical actually had the impact for a company to invest and make a decent/good game.
Thats what we want from konami, not the poor ports and lac of development now being shown. And as you can see, that means a lot of us wotn continue to "support" them in their bad times as i can have an effect. You only have to read seabass comments prior to release to see that he acknowledged the poor response and said they were going to improve the game for next year, drastically changing the designteam.
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