Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 10/10/07)
Why are so many Fifa players in this Thread and talk bad about Pro Evo?It seems that some Fifa Fans just wait for a bad Pro Evo pic so they can picking on it(i don't know if this is right english;-))
Go to the Fifa thread and talk about your super next gen Fifa. Fifa is already out, you can play it all the time but instead playing and discuss about Fifa you talk shit about Pro Evo:roll:
I don't think that is true. Noone would be in here if they weren't interested in PES, and I also believe that very few people will spend the time if all they are going to get out of it is being able to complain. Obviously there might be very few people who would do that, but most people would just not have the energy or motivation to criticise for the sake of criticising.
And the main reason FIFA comes up so much is that it is the only real reference point we have as far as Football games. People comparing with FIFA don't make less of a point than others, in fact I'd say that they make more of a point since they have played both games enough to know the differences, and are able to motivate what they feel is wrong by comparing with things they feel is right.
Saying "This is crap in PES but in FIFA this is just right" is worth alot more to me than someone saying "This is crap in PES", simply because you get more information if someone posts a reference point (like how FIFA does "it" for example).
Also, as much as I like what Adam and Suff have done, the comments here that have made me agree the most have been the ones that generally state that there is alot of overreacting and such here. I don't wish to disrespect anyone, that isn't the goal, I'm just saying what I feel. I could have 20 people a day writing in this thread that I'm an asshole, and I'd probably carry on posting, since I know this is the Internet and anything goes (obviously I hope it never comes to that since I then probably have done something really mean and/or illegal). As long as there is also positive comments and such, I feel it would be worth it. Obviously Adam had reached his limit, and I obviously don't know how many criticising comments he gets from other sources.
But I've not seen anyone criticising WENB or what they do, only KONAMI. Though the kits from WENB were criticised, and probably rightly so. BUT, they were criticised mainly in the sense that KONAMI are cheap bastards, and only minorly because WENB stated them (I think) as being very good, when any serious kitmaker or football fan probably throws up at seeing Liverpool with 2 stripes on their arms or such. WENB just took some flack because they seemed to be very enthusiastic about the results, something others disagreed with apparantly.
Well, sad to see Adam leave, but WENB will be there still so there is still room for dialog and communication.
EDIT: Also, FIFA is out, yes, but the PES PC Demo has been played by me, and judging from recent videos from newer versions, it hasn't changed at all basically. Sure, it might feel slightly different, but my main problem wiht PES2008 Demo wasn't the small details, it was the whole game. And that isn't going to change all that much, because the Demo wouldn't have been released if KONAMI didn't feel it to be atleast a somewhat accurate version to what they were aiming for.
