The Retro-PES Corner

Hello friends.
I would like to ask for a minute of your attention.
On my PC, PES 5, 6, 2013 and 2021 run without any problems. But, for some enigmatic reason, I can't run retro versions.
For example, PES 3, PES 4 and Winning Eleven 8, 9 Liveware Evolution.

The problem that occurs is a stutter (lag), as if the image were compressed at certain moments of the match. And so, it becomes impossible to flow, developing the plays. Has anyone experienced this? Could it be that the old versions are not compatible with Windows 10? I've searched everywhere, and I have no idea what it could be. The patch I'm using is: PES 3 World Patch 2003-04 (2003)

And look how I configured Nvidia (I don't know, I enabled a lot of things) in an attempt to eliminate the stuttering. lol
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And in kserv.cfg I just left it at my monitor resolution.
screen.width = 2560
screen.height = 1440

I would appreciate it if someone could give me a possible solution. Thanks!
 
drigOrange said:
Hello friends.
I would like to ask for a minute of your attention.
On my PC, PES 5, 6, 2013 and 2021 run without any problems. But, for some enigmatic reason, I can't run retro versions.
For example, PES 3, PES 4 and Winning Eleven 8, 9 Liveware Evolution.
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Place the dgvoodoo d3d8.dll and conf files, from the attached zip file, on your pes 3 directory and see if it helps. I've used it in Pes 3 and 5 and I always get smooth 60 fps.
 

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bussinrounds said:
PES 5 hat auch diesen nervigen „Aufhol“-Bug (ist der in allen Versionen wie WE9, LE usw. vorhanden?) und gibt es in PES 3 eine Möglichkeit, den Ball durch sich hindurchlaufen zu lassen, ohne ihn zu berühren? Ich habe vor Kurzem einige Patches gespielt und die übliche Vorgehensweise in den späteren Spielen (die Richtung halten, aus der der Ball kommt) hat nicht funktioniert.
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Auf der PS2 den Ball loslassen: Halten Sie die R1-Taste gedrückt, unmittelbar bevor ein Spieler den Ball stoppt. Drücken Sie keine Richtungstasten, damit der Spieler über den Ball springt, damit dieser von einem anderen Spieler aufgehoben werden kann.
 
francesco totti said:
Auf der PS2 den Ball loslassen: Halten Sie die R1-Taste gedrückt, unmittelbar bevor ein Spieler den Ball stoppt. Drücken Sie keine Richtungstasten, damit der Spieler über den Ball springt, damit dieser von einem anderen Spieler aufgehoben werden kann.
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Muss bitte auf Englisch sein. ;))
 
reinelt97 said:
This is a fair summary of probably the best-of-the best PES from the PS2 era, although I would add PES3 to that category.

I would still say PES 5 is the very best overall but, yes, that attacking AI is a little blunt.

While I miss the PES 5 ball physics and general physicality of the players, I find as a veteran PES-PS2-era-player the only game that can provide a prolonged challenge now is PES 2008 (PS2).

It's not perfect but it's a good mix of everything that made PES in this era great.
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i ve heard great things about pes 2008 ps2 never tried it tbh
 
morodolarama1 said:
(2007) Winning Eleven 10 Liveware Evolution-K - (16th anniversary) [2006-07]
Korean commentary
translated


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ISO: https://www.mediafire.com/file/ky4xvye76kc4r8s/%282007%29_Winning_Eleven_v10_Liveware_Evolution.iso/file

OF: https://www.mediafire.com/file/g7u3eoeqkav79f6/SLKA-25153+WE10LE+OPTION+FILE+(6929C5B8).max/file

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from here on comes WE2008... and the ps3 era. Sorry for the triple post, it was the best way to present the images, I will make a topic for you later where all the editions of the saga that I uploaded in previous months will be.

see for yourselves and compare the fluidity and the differences that these asian versions can have with the ps2 european versions of pro evolution soccer that we all know, in my opinion these games are faster and you must be faster to think about giving the passes It's still more entertaining even if it's more arcade.

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You can find the other games in the ps2 saga at
https://evoweb.uk/threads/the-retro-pes-corner.78697/post-3926974
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Are there any chance i can play the game with Japanese commentary? WE10 doesn't has real kits i guess?
 
Has anyone tried playing PES 2014 on the PS2? The last one officially released? For me it's the best Pes fired in terms of AI, besides having an ML with sponsorships and also having real money in the ML, you also can't count on level A players if you're on lower teams because they refuse to go to your team, A The AI of PES 2014 on the PS2 is the most difficult one and for me the last official PES for the PS2 is the best, has anyone tried it?
 
Ezequiel Vanzin said:
Has anyone tried playing PES 2014 on the PS2? The last one officially released? For me it's the best Pes fired in terms of AI, besides having an ML with sponsorships and also having real money in the ML, you also can't count on level A players if you're on lower teams because they refuse to go to your team, A The AI of PES 2014 on the PS2 is the most difficult one and for me the last official PES for the PS2 is the best, has anyone tried it?
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I also think PES 2014 is quite good.
Something I don't like - and don't understand - is that Copa Libertadores teams cannot be used against the other European clubs.
 
Ezequiel Vanzin said:
Has anyone tried playing PES 2014 on the PS2? The last one officially released? For me it's the best Pes fired in terms of AI, besides having an ML with sponsorships and also having real money in the ML, you also can't count on level A players if you're on lower teams because they refuse to go to your team, A The AI of PES 2014 on the PS2 is the most difficult one and for me the last official PES for the PS2 is the best, has anyone tried it?
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I have tried it a number of times, and recently i tried an updated PS2 ISO file on my Xbox but to me something feels off. I find the pitch feels narrow, there are hardly any fouls. I also have to disagree with you about the AI as I find it too easy to win possession back.

It’s a shame really because of the licences :(
 
Try some mods that exist out there, mainly in Brazil and Spain, I took some modified files and it seems to me that they have unlocks for 2 levels of higher difficulties, look on YouTube you will find several modifications of pes 2014 and unlocks of higher difficulties!
 
Ezequiel Vanzin said:
Try some mods that exist out there, mainly in Brazil and Spain, I took some modified files and it seems to me that they have unlocks for 2 levels of higher difficulties, look on YouTube you will find several modifications of pes 2014 and unlocks of higher difficulties!
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I just had a quick check but couldnt find any mods for the ps2 version.
 
simogto90 said:
Is there someone who played we10le? How Is compared to Pes6?

And we8Le compared to Pes4?
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WE8LE is one of the best PES/WE titles ever. Its probably the biggest 'Liveware Evolution' update compared to the previous version.

WE10LE plays quite similar to PES6. Not a huge difference, but since its PES6 at its core its still a great title.
 
Juventino32 said:
Having used the PES 6/2008 editor a lot, I'm sure it can be created with the in-game editor if this is an option for you.
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I think that you can, however, use one for PES 3 or PES 4 if you have it. PES 6 has a "narrow back" model that's able to display those kits just fine if I recall correctly. They'll all just have a low-res back (but if it's all white it wouldn't be such a problem I guess) and be a little distorted on the lower part of the shirt when untucked (as PES 3 and 4 didn't feature that option).
 
Ezequiel Vanzin said:


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General point: it bugs me when patch makers don't make it abundantly clear which game it's based on! Put it in the name/title, man! And also when they do up the menus to look like eFootball, complete with literally the worst colour scheme in human history. 😄

simogto90 said:
Is there someone who played we10le? How Is compared to Pes6?

And we8Le compared to Pes4?
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Agree with @BillyKong that WE8LE is the biggest upgrade of the 'inbetweeners'. Generally speaking they all offer improved AI and ball physics to various degrees. My usual advice - just give 'em all a go! 🙂

Presuming you're emulating, that is. Or absolutely loaded and buying them! 😄
 
Flipper the Priest said:
General point: it bugs me when patch makers don't make it abundantly clear which game it's based on! Put it in the name/title, man! And also when they do up the menus to look like eFootball, complete with literally the worst colour scheme in human history. 😄



Agree with @BillyKong that WE8LE is the biggest upgrade of the 'inbetweeners'. Generally speaking they all offer improved AI and ball physics to various degrees. My usual advice - just give 'em all a go! 🙂

Presuming you're emulating, that is. Or absolutely loaded and buying them! 😄
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I bought an original copy (We8le) in very good conditions for only 12 euros last Winter.. unfortunatley i don't have a NTSC PS2.
I downloaded some iso to make them run with freemcboot,but they seems to be fragmented and i don't have a PC for fix them.
 
morodolarama1 said:
I already launched several WE series maybe I need to upload

...psx games, start 2000's decade with

The Winning Eleven's series for PS2

(2001) Winning Eleven 5 (Original game translated english) [2000-01]
https://www.mediafire.com/file/fjuxdqb9twne4ue/(2001)+Winning+Eleven+5.iso/file

(2002) Winning Eleven 5 Final Evolution (Original game translated english) - (21th anniversary) [2001-02]
https://www.mediafire.com/file/kaekrfdr1qkodjv/(2002)+Winning+Eleven+5+Final+Evolution.iso/file

(2002) Winning Eleven 6 (Original game translated english) - [2001-02]
https://www.mediafire.com/file/n73hnlpt1k8lmhj/(2002)+Winning+Eleven+6.iso/file

(2003) Winning Eleven 6 Final Evolution - (20th anniversary) [2002-03]
https://evoweb.uk/threads/the-retro-pes-corner.78697/post-3922887

(2003) Winning Eleven 7 (Original game translated english) - [2002-03]
https://evoweb.uk/threads/the-retro-pes-corner.78697/post-3923795

(2004) Winning Eleven 7 International-J - (19th anniversary) [2003-04]
https://evoweb.uk/threads/the-retro-pes-corner.78697/post-3923803

(2004) Winning Eleven 8 (Original game translated english) - [2003-04]
https://evoweb.uk/threads/the-retro-pes-corner.78697/post-3926035

(2005) Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution - (18th anniversary) [2004-05]
https://evoweb.uk/threads/the-retro-pes-corner.78697/post-3926043

(2005) Winning Eleven 9 (Original game translated english) - [2004-05]
https://evoweb.uk/threads/the-retro-pes-corner.78697/post-3928677

(2006) Winning Eleven 9 Liveware Evolution-K - (17th anniversary) [2005-06]
https://evoweb.uk/threads/the-retro-pes-corner.78697/post-3946781

(2006) Winning Eleven 10 (Original game translated english) - [2005-06]
https://evoweb.uk/threads/the-retro-pes-corner.78697/post-3946783

(2007) Winning Eleven 10 Liveware Evolution-K - (16th anniversary) [2006-07]
https://evoweb.uk/threads/the-retro-pes-corner.78697/post-3946785

and continues with PS3 games
PES 2008
PES 2009
PES 2010
PES 2011...
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Mate, this is a dream. I've never noticed this thread before. I'm litterally going crazy. Thanks a lot!!!!!!!!
 
Juventino32 said:
Speaking about Juventus, in PES 2008, there is something strange in the ML.
With Juventus conrolled AI, after their first signing, Del Piero always give up his 10 for the 4.
I don't know if it's also the case in WE 2008.
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That’s so weird and specific 😂
 
So i played we10le these days, original corean iso cause is the only one i was able to run,and to me It is the best PS2 Pes atm. My opinion could change when i will be able to try we8Le,but atm i am finding we10le better than both Pes5 (which i prefer to we9le) and pes2008.

At first look we10le could seems like Pes6,but in my opinion is way more different,and in a good way, than we9le to Pes5.
These Is what i noticed:
- dribbling has that pes2008 feature that make u lose close control while sprinting and go diagonal. This happens more with less skilled player. I love this feature.

-midfield positioning is great, something that Pes6 miss totally. Actually midfield positioning is even better than pes2008 ihmo,where cpu pressing is too much wild and game more cahotic.

-i love ball physics. Passing is way better than pes2008 cause you can choose better to which one pass the ball. On Pes2008 i often struggle to pass the ball to the far player and this ends usually in a closer pass to the closer player.
Shooting is amazing. Has a lot of variety and it is way more difficult and demanding.

What the game miss is the great physical battles which we had on Pes5 and Referee stricness. Adriano and Ibrahimovic body balance must be lowered, cause 97 makes them overpower like on Pes6.

Despite this,i like the game more than everything else.
 
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