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Hello,

Talking about JL games, I myself own the 2007 and 2008.

From the main PS2 series, gameplay started to décline after the 2008 release.

Did the same thing occur with the J League series ? As it started to decline with the 2009 iteration ?
 
Juventino32 said:
Hello,

Talking about JL games, I myself own the 2007 and 2008.

From the main PS2 series, gameplay started to décline after the 2008 release.

Did the same thing occur with the J League series ? As it started to decline with the 2009 iteration ?
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It’s interesting you say that. I still find the later games to be amazing on PS2 including WE 2010 and PES 2014 and in some areas are better than the previous ones. What is it about the gameplay you found worse?

When I played JLWE2010 it played really well and quite similar to 2008. It appears that they made less changes to the gameplay with the J.League titles.
 
BillyKong said:
It’s interesting you say that. I still find the later games to be amazing on PS2 including WE 2010 and PES 2014 and in some areas are better than the previous ones. What is it about the gameplay you found worse?
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Mostly dribbling in fact. I played mostly 2009 and read it was also the case in the later iterations but maybe I should have tested myself as you say 2010 and 2014 were good.

Maybe only 2009 had a different dribbling system.

AI-wise, I had nothing to object.
 
I'd say Attacking AI in PES 2009 PS2 is better than PES 2008 PS2 but one big flaw in 2009 is AI always do Low Driven shoot. Great AI attacking pattern but wasted with stupid execution :CONFUSE:
 
Juventino32 said:
Mostly dribbling in fact. I played mostly 2009 and read it was also the case in the later iterations but maybe I should have tested myself as you say 2010 and 2014 were good.

Maybe only 2009 had a different dribbling system.

AI-wise, I had nothing to object.
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Yes! I completely get where you are coming from. I had mentioned this a couple of months back, but the dribbling changed from 2010 onwards. They now keep the ball closer to their feet and are slower in terms of feet movement when running and dribbling at the same time which gives them greater close control at most times. To be honest it can be seen both ways in my opinion.

Some people prefer the older dribbling style of PES5/6 and before as you can lose control more easily when sprinting and dribbling, but also the newer dribbling method feels more realistic at times because you don't suddenly lose control of the ball as if the player is a Sunday League amateur and not a professional footballer! As a result the defence feels more fair in terms of interceptions and its not now down to the player suddenly kicking the ball 10 feet ahead of him for no reason!

To be clear Winning Eleven/PES 2010 and all the later titles up to PES 2014 use the newer dribbling style on PS2, but J.League Winning Eleven 2010 looks to have kept the older PES5/6 dribbling style.

Regardless whichever game you prefer of the PS2/Wii era, they are a million miles better than anything released on modern consoles!
 
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I do have a question : is the USA version of PES 2008 (released after PES 2008 Europe and Winning Eleven 2008 Japan) plagued with the same database issues (5000 salary points, ...) as its European release counterpart ?
 
anyone tried Winning Eleven 2010: Aoki Samurai no Chousen on PS3.. is the game a little bit different than PES2010.. or the same ?

 
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Guys, I need some assistance.. I want to apply a Widescreen Patch for JLeague Winning Eleven 9 Asia Championship.

I am using the latest version of the nightly PCSX2, and I thought that the widescreen patch was applied automatically (it does for most games, it says so when a game is launched), but not for JLWE9AC.

Would really appreciate any help. I know that JLWE9AC can be played with widescreen (not stretched) but I don't know what steps I'm missing.

Thanks in advance.
 
H_G said:
anyone tried Winning Eleven 2010: Aoki Samurai no Chousen on PS3.. is the game a little bit different than PES2010.. or the same ?

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I´ve tried it on PSP, to where i know gameplay-wise it´s the same but it has updated transfers, it´s the best pre-world cup 2010 official konami database you will find, someone needs to create a tool for exporting team rosters in CSV from this game (especially for the PS2 and/or PSP versions, so we can import them to earlier PES like 6 or 5), also for exporting balls and other graphics since there are some rare ones that are licensed in this game like the Nike Ascente and Omni.
 


Well, You Can have more shots, and dominate about 60 of the 90 minutes. But you let Arsenal have the ball for 15 mins consecutively, and let them go through on 3 attacks at once. And you concede 2 of those 3 attacks, while not putting away your own shots. You can lose pretty easily. Lesson learnt XD
 
benga0800 said:
I´ve tried it on PSP, to where i know gameplay-wise it´s the same but it has updated transfers, it´s the best pre-world cup 2010 official konami database you will find, someone needs to create a tool for exporting team rosters in CSV from this game (especially for the PS2 and/or PSP versions, so we can import them to earlier PES like 6 or 5), also for exporting balls and other graphics since there are some rare ones that are licensed in this game like the Nike Ascente and Omni.
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the the last db update of PES2010 is slightly different than the one on this game. Despite it was released in May.

Actually, for instance, on this game van Nistelrooy is at Real Madrid, but on PES he isn't since he left for Hamburg in the winter transfert window. You can also notice that Henry is in the starting lineup of Barcelona, but in PES2010, Iniesta is playing as a left SS.

Players stats are the same.
 
BillyKong said:
Having recently played another variant of PES5 specifically J.League Winning Eleven 9 Asia Championship, I have to agree with you. There are differences between the different versions for sure and what I noticed was the ball physics were worse in my opinion in WE9LE. As a result the passing, shooting and crossing all felt more flat and less varied to me in WE9LE and what I immediately noticed was that the passing was considerably quicker too, whereas it was slower in JLWE9AC which in turn made the game have a more realistic match tempo. Also I found JLWE9AC had a more tighter midfield and I actually found the AI to be slightly better too including in defensive awareness.

Getting tempted now to make a patch for JLWE9AC :THINK:
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Bro, are you still thinking about making a patch for JLWE9AC?

It's one of my favorite games of all time, and I'm playing it with the English translation.. I was wondering if you could perhaps help me with an issue; In ML it seems like all Japanese and Korean players have a transfer price of 300, which isn't too realistic because of course the Japanese and Korean players have all different skill levels..

I remember that in my old computer about two years ago, I manually changed all Korean and Japanese players' nationalities to "free" in the internal editor, one by one, and also made other changes to fix this (make duplicates of Japanese and Korean NT players and decrease all of their stats to 1 so that they do not appear in ML, etc).. but it took me long time, and now I've lost that memcard.. I was perhaps wondering if I could ask for your help. :)
 
millossobek said:
Bro, are you still thinking about making a patch for JLWE9AC?

It's one of my favorite games of all time, and I'm playing it with the English translation.. I was wondering if you could perhaps help me with an issue; In ML it seems like all Japanese and Korean players have a transfer price of 300, which isn't too realistic because of course the Japanese and Korean players have all different skill levels..

I remember that in my old computer about two years ago, I manually changed all Korean and Japanese players' nationalities to "free" in the internal editor, one by one, and also made other changes to fix this (make duplicates of Japanese and Korean NT players and decrease all of their stats to 1 so that they do not appear in ML, etc).. but it took me long time, and now I've lost that memcard.. I was perhaps wondering if I could ask for your help. :)
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Hey Milloss, I'm still debating about it but if I do decide to do it I will message you as I may need your help with the player prices as I have not edited these before. I imagine they can be edited via a DB editor like DkZ Studio but I will have to check.
 
BillyKong said:
Hey Milloss, I'm still debating about it but if I do decide to do it I will message you as I may need your help with the player prices as I have not edited these before. I imagine they can be edited via a DB editor like DkZ Studio but I will have to check.
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Sure! Let me know if you decide on doing it and I can help, although I know next to nothing about DkZ studio and stuff, but still let me know if I can be of assistance! :TU:
 
Anybody knows how I can edit a PS2 option file with PES Fan Editor? It does not open the option file that was created in game
 
Juventino32 said:
Which PES game are you trying to edit ?
Çan you upload your OF ?
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I want to edit the option file of WE9LE or PES 5 in ps2 version. I started the game and created a new, default option file and then I opened MyMC to export this option file to my computer. With PES 2008 PS2 version it worked like that and also with PES6 but with PES Fan Editor for PES5/WE9/WE9LE it doesn't. I will upload this file later when I am on my computer. I tried WE9LE in ps2 and like it a lot, this version was uploaded in evoweb and is basicly a fully licensed game like original season patch. But since I like editing a lot I would like to be able to do an own option file or convert some of my old work that I made for PES 5 PC version to WE9LE PS2 version.

I found an option file for pes5 for 2019-10 season and there are different versions included. One the creator called "ps2 version editable in pes fan editor". It must be a different file format. So I would like to know how I can convert an option file for pc to one that is working with the pcsx2 game.
 
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I am creating 2024 OF for PES 2010. I saw an idea on reddit and i like it. Instead of 5 usual league, i want to create joint leagues:
  1. British League (England+Celtic and Rangers)
  2. Western League (France+Germany)
  3. Latin League (Spain+Italy + maybe 4 Portuguese teams)
  4. Benelux League (Netherlands+Belgium)
  5. Balkan League (teams from Balkan region - just like in basketball)
For Other Leagues A it is going to have European teams who don't have a league.

Downside is that a lot of lower ranked teams for Top 5 leagues are deleted, also if you play ML in PES 2010 in UCL and UEL we will see less teams from top 5 leagues and more from "weaker league".

So do you like the idea or rather stick to Top 5 Leagues when it comes to editing?
 
Fenomeno9 said:
I want to edit the option file of WE9LE or PES 5 in ps2 version. I started the game and created a new, default option file and then I opened MyMC to export this option file to my computer. With PES 2008 PS2 version it worked like that and also with PES6 but with PES Fan Editor for PES5/WE9/WE9LE it doesn't. I will upload this file later when I am on my computer. I tried WE9LE in ps2 and like it a lot, this version was uploaded in evoweb and is basicly a fully licensed game like original season patch. But since I like editing a lot I would like to be able to do an own option file or convert some of my old work that I made for PES 5 PC version to WE9LE PS2 version.

I found an option file for pes5 for 2019-10 season and there are different versions included. One the creator called "ps2 version editable in pes fan editor". It must be a different file format. So I would like to know how I can convert an option file for pc to one that is working with the pcsx2 game.
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Try the PES editor for PES 5 :
http://www.purplehaze.eclipse.co.uk/downloads.html
 
I'm trying to access the we2010 aoki samurai no chousen database by renaming the files so that they are recognized as if they were from pes2010 but it is giving a storage error and @BillyKong told me that it is possible to access it through there but he was not the one who did this renaming process and access the database so I would like someone to help me get it
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WINNING ELEVEN 7 INTERNATIONAL (NTSC-J) PLAYSTATION 2 - FINAL RELEASE - UPDATE 1.1
  • Updated database and fixes
  • Updated South Korea player names
  • Updated Old Trafford turf
  • Restored original scoreboard and powerbar
  • Restored original adidas Tricolore matchball
  • New adboards
  • New flags/emblems (thanks! @squidward)
  • Restored Hungary national team (replacing Latvia)
  • Added licensed Hungary national team kits
  • Fixed national and club team kits (numbering and fonts)
  • Fixed transparent GK glove bug
  • Updated translation strings
  • Added competition names (English only)
  • Fixed club names
  • Fixed stadium names
  • Added option file with unlocked ball type and Classic Teams (thanks! @sk_rea2f)
  • Removed Zionist banners
  • Stock SLPM provided for original PS2 consoles
This now makes this the most definitive patch available for Winning Eleven 7 International on PS2 in my opinion. I hope you enjoy it. This marks the final version of this patch and I wont be taking on any further requests or changes.

DOWNLOAD LINK: https://www.mediafire.com/file/qhdb6c1lki6vjxk/Winning_Eleven_7_International.7z/file

MAIN THREAD: https://evoweb.uk/threads/winning-eleven-7-international-ps2-ntsc-j-patched.94690/
 
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