The Retro-PES Corner

Bro I have played FL26 with Hollands simulation gameplay....yeah it all looks good....playing the game feels ok...but as soon as i start playing WE8LE its like I am 110% more focused and just way more into the game. My final verdict will always be...PES21 will always be a beautiful woman that lacks character, depth and soul.

2004/2005 was a year that best sports games were made.

1 ESPN NBA 2K5 - best basketball game of all time. - PS2

2. ESPN NFL 2K5 - best American Football Game of all time. PS2

3. EA's MVP Baseball 2005 - PS2 - widely regarded as one of the best sports games of all times.

4. PES4/5 and other variants - greatest football games ever.

Just unreal

I bought a new PC 2 years ago and most of the time i found myself playing old games, with an exception to maybe 2 newer titles like Cyberpunk,Yakuza series and Battlefield.

It is really depressing in someway that the most genuine era of games (and sports games especially) was during the PS1-PS2 cycle, of course there are a few great games in the PS3/360 era like NBA2K11, FIFA 11-13, PES 2010-2013 but even then these franchises slowly started to lack that indentity and atmopshere. Most sports games that are treated by the community as the best ones are mostly from the early-mid 2000's. It might sound cringy or cliche but i really thing back then majorite of the dev team behind these games were actually passionate about the sport they made games about.

A few examples of games that are still unbeatable by modern titles:

- NBA 2K11 - propably the only exception here, but luckilly it was my first basketball game
- ESPN NFL 2K5- even though im not interested in american football, i saw a few video esssays about how it special it is.
- Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix 4 - The AI in this game and the physics are still hard to beat.
- Richard Burns Rally - Same as above physics wise.
- Nascar Racing 2003 - a more obscure title, especially in Europe, but the racing experience thanks to physics, AI and love of the motorsport is still to this day.

Of course we could talk about other games from other genres that absolutely rocked during the 2000"s but i wanted to stay in the sports genre lol
 
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