Billy Jov
Conference
- 1 November 2021
PES 2 was way ahead of it's time, it had a 3 division Super League, 20 fucking years before it was proposed IRL
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Hello and merry Christmas to you too!Given it was the first season, I started immediately with the Champions League, as it was what everyone was expecting in my YouTube channel (that's why there are no cool graphics of the group stage as in the others, which started later). This is how the group stage ended:
Group A: Bayern Münich and Shakthar Donetsk went through; PSV to UEFA Cup R16; Roma out.
Group B: AC Milan and Barcelona through; Saint-Etienne to R16 UEFA Cup; Energie Cottbus out =(
Group C: Werder Bremen and Manchester United through; Real Madrid to R16 UEFA Cup; Olympiacos out
Group D: Chelsea and Inter through; Hamburger to UEFA Cup R16; CSKA out
Group E: Aston Villa and Juventus through; Fenerbahçe to UEFA Cup R16; Kyiv out
Group F: Arsenal and Parma through; Racing Santander to UEFA Cup R16; Stade Rennais out =(
Group G: PSG and Ajax through; Atlético Madrid to UEFA Cup R16; Benfica out
Group H: Lyon and Galatasaray through; Porto to UEFA Cup R16; Spartak Moscow out
And this is what the Round of 16 draw looked like, with the 2 pots as follows:
Pot 1: Bayern Münich, AC Milan, Werder Bremen, Chelsea, Aston Villa, Arsenal, PSG, Lyon
Pot 2: Shakthar Donetsk, Barcelona, Manchester United, Inter, Juventus, Parma, Ajax, Galatasaray
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Your Quarter Finals draw:
- Milan went through to the QF with a comfortable 5-1 over Galatasaray on aggregate.
- Aston Villa surprised Barcelona with a 3-3 on aggregate and went through thanks to the away goal rule.
- Juventus defeated Arsenal 3-2 on AGG in a very tight matchup.
- Manchester United couldn't hold a candle agains titans Bayern Münich, who won 3-1 on AGG.
- Shakthar Donetsk upset PSG 3-1 on AGG.
- Chelsea thrashed Parma with a 9-1 on AGG, including a 0-9 in Italy.
- Inter prevailed against Werder Bremen with a 5-2 on AGG that wasn’t as easy as it looks.
- Ajax defeated Lyon in another very tight match thanks to the away goal rule. 3-3 on AGG.
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Your Semi Finals draw. It was either an all-Italian final or an all-English one:
- The romance between Aston Villa and the UCL continued as they prevailed against actual champions AC Milan 4-3 on agg.
- Juventus edged Bayern Münich with a tight 2-1 on AGG.
- Chelsea suffered more than necessary to defeat Shakthar 5-3 on agg.
- Inter also suffered a lot to defeat Ajax 4-2 on agg.
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- What Aston Villa did on both legs will remain unmatched for a long time. 10-2 on AGG (1-5 and 5-1) gave the villains the chance to play the UCL final against Mourinho's Chelsea, which defeated Inter 4-2 on AGG.
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In the Grand Finale, two English teams met to determine who would be European kings. See for yourself:
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That was the end of the first part. I will continue another day with the other 3 competitions. You can find more of this in my YouTube channel, which is linked in my signature. Cheers and may the PES Gods be with you! Merry Christmas everybody!
Anyone knows any good patch for WE2008 with fully licensed 2007-08 kits for EPL and National teams?
There is a PES 2008 patch that has implemented only the EPL kits for that season:
https://www.meups2nostalgia.com/2023/05/winning-eleven-13-2007-dvd-iso-ps2.html?m=1
I don't know if it's possible to import them to WE2008, since this version is kinda better than its PES counterpart with the addition of Superstar Difficulty. WE2008 with fully licensed 2007-08 kits would be superb.
PS: The ROM above has been renamed to "Winning Eleven" but actually it's a PES game with no unlockable Superstar difficulty.
It's not possible to import from PES2008 to WSWE2008.
I'm finishing an OF for PES 6 and then work on PES 2008.
See what I just posted today.
https://evoweb.uk/threads/ps2-psp-p...v2-j2-league-inside.93848/page-3#post-4016213
Do you think so? I always thought PES 2008 was slightly easier to score etc. At least on PS2 anyway.PES 6 is indeed easier than PES 2008 (and thus WE 2008).
My take is to not change the stats. That's a personal choice.
To raise the challenge, I'd just use weaker teams then.
Do you think so? I always thought PES 2008 was slightly easier to score etc. At least on PS2 anyway.
Guess it’s down to each of our play styles. I’ve played games that I think are easy and everyone else struggles with them and then I’ve played games that I’ve found difficult and others have found them easy. I think it’s a case of that by the sounds of it.Yes. I found PES 6 much easier than PES 2008 (when playing solo, it's mostly in ML mode with the default team).
"after completing my PES 6 OF, I'll work on WSWE2008"
That would be absolutely great.
Other than that, do you know any clever way to make the game even harder and more challenging?
I play WE2008 on Superstar difficulty and while it's harder than the Top Player, it's still not that good to cause a real struggle and challenge, especially their offense which is not as aggressive/quick/smart as their defense. Several days ago I played England vs Brazil on Superstar difficulty and... drum roll... thrashed them 4-0.
Also after that, I played an El Classico and I was Barca and... guess what... drum roll... just another 4-0.
Now I'm not saying that every match in WE2008 results in a thrashing. Obviously there are back-and-forth and hard-fought matches from time to time, but the problem is, these kind of matches happen way less than they should. In most of the matches it's normal for me to create more chances than what the CPU teams manage to and achieving a clean sheet is not that hard.
I've seen several threads on which people talk about how tweaking stats drastically changes the gameplay. What's your take on these? Is it possible to tweak anything in a way that makes playing against the CPU harder and more challenging?
PS: Other than WE2008, I'm also talking about PES 6 on PC. These 2 games would be way more entertaining with better and harder AI. Especially PES 6.
One thing that can improve the 1P vs CPU matches is to go to the edit section and modify the squad/formation of the teams you use the most and replace the average players with the better ones.
There's a big difference when the CPU plays as Brazil with the likes of Dudu, Elano and Rafael Sobis, OR, the likes of Ronaldinho, Adriano and Ronaldo.
I checked the default squads of the top teams in PES2008/WE2008 and Brazil and Chelsea were quite horrible out of the box and needed lots of tweaks to become the great teams that they actually were back in 2008. In Chelsea, by default, guys like Terry and Drogba are out of the starting squad.
Hi, I am not sure if it plays the same as WSWE2008 but I personally find PES2008 hard enough as it is. I normally play ML so maybe that is why.
I used to play PES5 back in the day but when i began finding it easy I used these adjustments in this post:
https://evoweb.uk/threads/pes5-ps2-better-gameplay-2011-2012.66169/post-2611201
You could try using the same ones. I think Teamwork is a good one to increase because it definitely made the AI play better in PES5 but they may not work the same in WSWE2008.
Regarding PES6 I have never been a fan. To me it is too arcadey and easy to win the ball back and get shots away. I remember when I first bought it on release, after playing for a couple of weeks I gave it to my friend’s son and went back to PES5.![]()
Hi, I am not sure if it plays the same as WSWE2008 but I personally find PES2008 hard enough as it is. I normally play ML so maybe that is why.
I used to play PES5 back in the day but when i began finding it easy I used these adjustments in this post:
https://evoweb.uk/threads/pes5-ps2-better-gameplay-2011-2012.66169/post-2611201
You could try using the same ones. I think Teamwork is a good one to increase because it definitely made the AI play better in PES5 but they may not work the same in WSWE2008.
Regarding PES6 I have never been a fan. To me it is too arcadey and easy to win the ball back and get shots away. I remember when I first bought it on release, after playing for a couple of weeks I gave it to my friend’s son and went back to PES5.![]()
Do you know any stats modifications that work well on PES 2008?
Over the years and for numerous times, I've tried to play PES5 and while I like the overall flow of the matches, there's one thing that always is the #1 reason why I uninstall the game after playing only a few matches. And I know that before I say it, you've already guessed it: Fouls.
I think if Peter Drury was the commentator in PES5, he would shout: "Foul and foul and foul. They are running riots."
And then, Jim Beglin would chim in and share his 2 cents: "Unbelievable."
And yeah, PES6 is slightly more arcadey than its predecessor. But the reason why I still play it is the lack of game-breaking flaws. Yeah, the AI could be better, but that's fine. At least player vs player matches are solid.
However, if anyone manages to port the PES 2008 PS2 to PC, it would easily blow both PES5 and PES6 out of the water. Just imagine how it can look, feel and play with kitserver patches.
I have manage to download a gameplay tool, called jenkeys (?). When I open it I must attach the Pes2013.exe file but I can’t find it in the drop down meny. Does anyone know what I could have done wrong?I have been playing PES 2013 recently, had totally forgot what a fantastic game it is, it holds up surprisingly well compared to the modern football games.
IMO the only thing I find frustrating is the lack of build up play from the CPU, other than that they play really life like.
Is there some kind of gameplay mod/patch that make the CPU play less direct?
"Dad, tell us about Pes 3-6."
Do you know any stats modifications that work well on PES 2008?
Over the years and for numerous times, I've tried to play PES5 and while I like the overall flow of the matches, there's one thing that always is the #1 reason why I uninstall the game after playing only a few matches. And I know that before I say it, you've already guessed it: Fouls.
I think if Peter Drury was the commentator in PES5, he would shout: "Foul and foul and foul. They are running riots."
And then, Jim Beglin would chim in and share his 2 cents: "Unbelievable."
And yeah, PES6 is slightly more arcadey than its predecessor. But the reason why I still play it is the lack of game-breaking flaws. Yeah, the AI could be better, but that's fine. At least player vs player matches are solid.
However, if anyone manages to port the PES 2008 PS2 to PC, it would easily blow both PES5 and PES6 out of the water. Just imagine how it can look, feel and play with kitserver patches.