slamsoze
International
- 28 September 2010
My personal view is that PES 2011 is better than PES 2010, in gameplay section.Thanks for all the PES 2010 vs 2011 opinions.
Having now had a good spin back on both, I'm left with the conclusion that every PS2 era PES is better than any PS3 era PES.
I really thought PES 2011 would draw me back in but coming from PES 5 it feels clunky and awkward. PES 2010 feels bare-bones with dodgy AI.
So I'm back on the PS2 with PES 3, PES 5 and I think PES 2008 for a new Master League.
I'm going to be re-downloading @geeeeee 's PS2 PES 2008 option file and USB version. One question geeeeee, do your altered player stats work on a longterm ML with regens etc?
@Flipper the Priest I think you were going to pop over your PES 3 option file. Nit a problem and thanks for the help anyway. It really is much appreciated.
The biggest flaw , BY-DEDIGN, that PES 2011 has, is the way you/we play it.
I started playing with keyboard, then tried Gamepad, playing with D-Pad, and now i am trying with Gamepad and the analogue stick.
I was always suspicious, that the passing system was different. After i watched a promo-video someone posted last week, i am convinced that the passing system, uses a kind of full manual, Mention: there are not PA levels in this game. Basically judging by experience and the video, it uses a system similar to the modern advanced through pass, just the aim circle is invisible, for thr direction, and the pass speed/power is relative to stats and power gauge.
This renders the passing system, "unplayable" with D-Pad or direction arrows, cause you can only aim 8 directions, so if not unplayable, you are missing the 50%.
On the other hand, the movement of the player, works better with the D-Pad, despite the movement system being absolute, not relative, while most cameras have angles by default, but some players that have the skill card, IIRC Marauding or Marksman, it was named Kamikaze in Greek language settings so pardon me, tend to move almost 360 degrees, and to take sharp turns, which is only possible with a L-stick.
I wouldn't say it's lazy development, or bad playtesting, cause judging by the Seabass videos, there was still love for PES 2011 development. It was more pressure due to the bad past of PS3 games, and a lot of new ideas that were still pending to be implemented.
That's why possible the game feels stiff and rigid. Cause under normal terms, you had to have a third hand to move either the L-stick, or the D-Pad, to play it to 100% potential.
In the next installments, they fixed most of those, with the implementation of PA settings, player movement , fixing the angles in the default cameras, etc.
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