marqisspes6
International
- 16 January 2012
beautiful shoot
The Retro-PES Corner
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Shales
League 2
- 16 March 2019
Thank you 👍
Madmac79
International
- 11 September 2006
Yeah unfortunately I think Pes 2016 is kinda irredeemable.. or at least it's for me, if there is people that can enjoy it despite the non existent keeper and the general poor defense, good for them. By the way @slamsoze, love the idea of a playgrounds football game, wish Pes games were moddable to this point. I'd also say it would be lovely for somebody to give a try developing a game of that kind, but I think that rather than capturing the wonderful, innocent feeling of oratories football/juvenile amateurs pitches, it would end up with power shots, super dribblings, acrobacies etc. like more or less every football game of the last ten years or so outside the main two.
vialli82
International
- 4 September 2005
- Juventus
About PES 2016 i don't bother to try a mod to fix gameplay.
Shoots are just too heavy for the keepers and i don't like the overall gameplay. And it's overall less good than 2017, i don't understand why do you really want to play it : the same game as 2017 core engine but in everything less good and the shittiest keeper from PS4 series 😂
Just forget about it guys, or you really like to force it at every cost, the thing is there's nothing i more than others versions.
Switch that version, the most awful PES (to me) and just imagine that version never existed lol.
Shoots are just too heavy for the keepers and i don't like the overall gameplay. And it's overall less good than 2017, i don't understand why do you really want to play it : the same game as 2017 core engine but in everything less good and the shittiest keeper from PS4 series 😂
Just forget about it guys, or you really like to force it at every cost, the thing is there's nothing i more than others versions.
Switch that version, the most awful PES (to me) and just imagine that version never existed lol.
slamsoze
International
- 28 September 2010
I know it's not significant, it was always gameplay>>>content, but its the best PES content wise, at least until PES 2019, for a European player, and for a South American player maybe the best ever.
Not 2nd Brasileirao division, or Liga Aquila, like PES 2020, but you can play Libertadores-Sudamericana-Recopa Sudamericana.
If they kept all of theme, like they kept Libertadores, as a custom/editable competition, like they did in Europe with fake CL-EL-UEFA super cup, there really wouldn't be any reason to visit PES 2016.
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Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution - in my opinion one of the top 3 Winning Eleven/PES titles ever released, up there with WE9/WE9LE and J.League Winning Eleven 2008 Club Championship. This title was originally released as a Sony PlayStation 2 exclusive in Japan only, on March 24th 2005. WE8LE is a major upgrade over the previous iterations - Winning Eleven 8 and Pro Evolution Soccer 4, with several bugfixes and gameplay changes including improved goalkeepers, better AI, superior ball physics, stricter referees and a more balanced game speed. Team Reefur then released their amazing 2005-2006 Update patch on July 28th 2005. This ended up being one of the most comprehensive and detailed patches ever released for WE/PES on console. I have taken the patched ISO and applied a few fixes and improvements and have uploaded it to share it with you all.
Download link:
https://sharemods.com/yxjnkn0dnnc9/Winning_Eleven_8_Liveware_Evolution_-_Team_Reefur.7z.html
Fixes and Improvements:
BUGS:
Do not go past page 6 or 7 in edit mode>players as it will cause the game to hang for some reason. I was unable to fix this issue.
Do not use another WE8LE option file. Delete any previous WE8LE option file and create a brand new one when starting the game otherwise some things may not be shown correctly.
I want to give thanks to the following people:
@fernando - for his amazing translation that was used as a base and for all his hard work in previous patches over the last 20 years.
@marqisspes6 - for his help and support.
@picaaa - for finding and sharing the patch again after many years.
@baygonstroberi - for his YouTube content and patch links.
@reefur and Maximo and all the original contributors for their great patch.
Please download the latest nightly build of PCSX2 from here:
https://pcsx2.net/downloads/#nightly-anchor - Select the QT AVX2 release for Windows 10/11.
Ensure you apply the included Widescreen Patch to the appropriate folder in PCSX2 (I believe its cheats_ws and ensure 16:9 aspect ratio as well as cheats and widescreen patches are enabled in the emulator settings). You will know the widescreen patch has been applied properly as you will see a popup in the top left corner saying 'widescreen patches enabled'. Without this you will end up playing the game in stretched 16:9 and this causes the game to play at a higher speed than normal. Also ensure Optimal Frame Pacing is turned on to reduce any input latency.
To import save file data and option files to your virtual PCSX2 memory card please download MyMc from here:
http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca:11068/mymc/
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution - in my opinion one of the top 3 Winning Eleven/PES titles ever released, up there with WE9/WE9LE and J.League Winning Eleven 2008 Club Championship. This title was originally released as a Sony PlayStation 2 exclusive in Japan only, on March 24th 2005. WE8LE is a major upgrade over the previous iterations - Winning Eleven 8 and Pro Evolution Soccer 4, with several bugfixes and gameplay changes including improved goalkeepers, better AI, superior ball physics, stricter referees and a more balanced game speed. Team Reefur then released their amazing 2005-2006 Update patch on July 28th 2005. This ended up being one of the most comprehensive and detailed patches ever released for WE/PES on console. I have taken the patched ISO and applied a few fixes and improvements and have uploaded it to share it with you all.
Download link:
https://sharemods.com/yxjnkn0dnnc9/Winning_Eleven_8_Liveware_Evolution_-_Team_Reefur.7z.html
Fixes and Improvements:
- High LOD fix applied via hex edit to the SLPM file.
- Fully complete English translation.
- Removed the ball cursor.
- Replaced the noisy title screen with the stock title screen.
- Replaced the Umbro X Digital with the Adidas Fevernova.
- Replaced the Adidas F50 with the Nike Total 90 Hi-Vis.
- Changed the Adidas Pelias ball model.
- Removed any obnoxious and explicit songs from the patch.
- Fixed the graphical bug with the Allianz Arena.
BUGS:
Do not go past page 6 or 7 in edit mode>players as it will cause the game to hang for some reason. I was unable to fix this issue.
Do not use another WE8LE option file. Delete any previous WE8LE option file and create a brand new one when starting the game otherwise some things may not be shown correctly.
I want to give thanks to the following people:
@fernando - for his amazing translation that was used as a base and for all his hard work in previous patches over the last 20 years.
@marqisspes6 - for his help and support.
@picaaa - for finding and sharing the patch again after many years.
@baygonstroberi - for his YouTube content and patch links.
@reefur and Maximo and all the original contributors for their great patch.
Please download the latest nightly build of PCSX2 from here:
https://pcsx2.net/downloads/#nightly-anchor - Select the QT AVX2 release for Windows 10/11.
Ensure you apply the included Widescreen Patch to the appropriate folder in PCSX2 (I believe its cheats_ws and ensure 16:9 aspect ratio as well as cheats and widescreen patches are enabled in the emulator settings). You will know the widescreen patch has been applied properly as you will see a popup in the top left corner saying 'widescreen patches enabled'. Without this you will end up playing the game in stretched 16:9 and this causes the game to play at a higher speed than normal. Also ensure Optimal Frame Pacing is turned on to reduce any input latency.
To import save file data and option files to your virtual PCSX2 memory card please download MyMc from here:
http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca:11068/mymc/
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millossobek
The 3-Stars Cup
@slamsoze right, I think the main reason is because of Libertadores/Sudamericana/Recopa, since it is one of the only ones that have the three competitions. I especially like the fact that they have Sudamericana, I like to play with some of the lesser known teams not only Boca, Flamengo, etc.. But then again, I think PES 2015 also has Sudamericana, so I'll probably end up playing it when I want to run the tournament. 
@vialli82 bro, were you able to take a look at the stats for the PES 2010 patch, the TPS patch? Do they seem accurate to you?
@vialli82 bro, were you able to take a look at the stats for the PES 2010 patch, the TPS patch? Do they seem accurate to you?
slamsoze
International
- 28 September 2010
Correct, but PES 2015 missed Liga Chilena. Which was in 2014. So it leaves you eith Brasileirao, Argentina, and PLA league.@slamsoze right, I think the main reason is because of Libertadores/Sudamericana/Recopa, since it is one of the only ones that have the three competitions. I especially like the fact that they have Sudamericana, I like to play with some of the lesser known teams not only Boca, Flamengo, etc.. But then again, I think PES 2015 also has Sudamericana, so I'll probably end up playing it when I want to run the tournament.
@vialli82 bro, were you able to take a look at the stats for the PES 2010 patch, the TPS patch? Do they seem accurate to you?
But don't get me wrong, i speak only about content. If the gameplay is better on other games, it's obvious that someone can't stay in a game too long only for the content.
millossobek
The 3-Stars Cup
Guys, I'd like to share this PES 2011 gameplay mod, originally posted here in evoweb by @H_G:
https://evoweb.uk/threads/sfx-gameplay-tool-for-pes2011-0-9-0-03-08-1184.63268/page-42#post-3772762
(credit goes to @yair25 and Jenkey1002)
I've applied the gameplay patch (with adaptive A.I. and reduced speeder to approximately 0.87) and I've been enjoying the differences. Even though PES 2011 vanilla gameplay is quite solid, I felt like my matches (even at 20 minutes) were a bit too low scoring. if any of you would like to give this a shot and let me know what you think, that'd be cool.
https://evoweb.uk/threads/sfx-gameplay-tool-for-pes2011-0-9-0-03-08-1184.63268/page-42#post-3772762
(credit goes to @yair25 and Jenkey1002)
I've applied the gameplay patch (with adaptive A.I. and reduced speeder to approximately 0.87) and I've been enjoying the differences. Even though PES 2011 vanilla gameplay is quite solid, I felt like my matches (even at 20 minutes) were a bit too low scoring. if any of you would like to give this a shot and let me know what you think, that'd be cool.
vialli82
International
- 4 September 2005
- Juventus
@millossobek just send me the edit.bin file if you can, because if i'm installing it i got to erase the patch i installed, the install that one, and erase it to reinstall my "no change needed" patch 😅
I will check on the editor (PES 2010 that's right?), i don't need to install patch for it mate. I will check a bit later to be honest i've just edited a lot and got enough of it.
About PES 2016, i remember there was tons of data errors in both Sudamericana and Libertadores, blank faces (means "0" in every parameters) 180cm/80kg and others errors you have no idea. Even on big teams. It wasn't the case with 5-6 japanese guys working on the full database. Yes there were players impossible to found so with basic standards values like for height and weight, but the conversion from PS2 to PS3 stats brings back plenty of errors.
I don't even the ambexidetrous players because those 15 years old kids can't divide 8 by 2, so if a player got 4 on a 8 scale... He obtained the superb result as 4 but on a 4 scale.
Plenty of Nedved and Maldini on the pitch. Or the very weird errors with player who got same stats as PES 2012 or 2013, but with / no reason at all / 80 in Ball winning, Curve, Finishing (don't search any kind of logic when a player got 80 in a Defensive stats like Ball Winning and 80 in Finishing)
Windsor teams fucked all up, and the 5-6 japanese restored it from games to games.
Then, they realised the errors of PESFAN recruiting and made a selection on PES 2019, say "goodbye" to bad editor and only the good ones stayed on the database team (the Serie A friend got a promotion for both Serie A+B) so they fortunately and keept the good one...
Sad that now they're working on Efootball, (Instead of... PES fucking 2023 FFS) and i can tell that the stats are very good/to me it's mean "without too much errors and lot of specialities".
I will check on the editor (PES 2010 that's right?), i don't need to install patch for it mate. I will check a bit later to be honest i've just edited a lot and got enough of it.
About PES 2016, i remember there was tons of data errors in both Sudamericana and Libertadores, blank faces (means "0" in every parameters) 180cm/80kg and others errors you have no idea. Even on big teams. It wasn't the case with 5-6 japanese guys working on the full database. Yes there were players impossible to found so with basic standards values like for height and weight, but the conversion from PS2 to PS3 stats brings back plenty of errors.
I don't even the ambexidetrous players because those 15 years old kids can't divide 8 by 2, so if a player got 4 on a 8 scale... He obtained the superb result as 4 but on a 4 scale.
Plenty of Nedved and Maldini on the pitch. Or the very weird errors with player who got same stats as PES 2012 or 2013, but with / no reason at all / 80 in Ball winning, Curve, Finishing (don't search any kind of logic when a player got 80 in a Defensive stats like Ball Winning and 80 in Finishing)
Windsor teams fucked all up, and the 5-6 japanese restored it from games to games.
Then, they realised the errors of PESFAN recruiting and made a selection on PES 2019, say "goodbye" to bad editor and only the good ones stayed on the database team (the Serie A friend got a promotion for both Serie A+B) so they fortunately and keept the good one...
Sad that now they're working on Efootball, (Instead of... PES fucking 2023 FFS) and i can tell that the stats are very good/to me it's mean "without too much errors and lot of specialities".
millossobek
The 3-Stars Cup
@vialli82 Just sent you the edit file, take your time no rush my friend.
Have you tried this ?Guys, I'd like to share this PES 2011 gameplay mod, originally posted here in evoweb by @H_G:
https://evoweb.uk/threads/sfx-gameplay-tool-for-pes2011-0-9-0-03-08-1184.63268/page-42#post-3772762
View attachment 183159
(credit goes to @yair25 and Jenkey1002)
I've applied the gameplay patch (with adaptive A.I. and reduced speeder to approximately 0.87) and I've been enjoying the differences. Even though PES 2011 vanilla gameplay is quite solid, I felt like my matches (even at 20 minutes) were a bit too low scoring. if any of you would like to give this a shot and let me know what you think, that'd be cool.
https://www2.zippyshare.com/v/uUhd3lOm/file.html
millossobek
The 3-Stars Cup
Yes bro, I did, but when I tried to apply the patch it said it could not read the .exe and could not apply the changes. (I'm using the PESEdit patch .exe)
Shales
League 2
- 16 March 2019
Sounds like a great piece of work. Thank you, and thank you to those who helped you 🙂. I look forward to checking this out.
Thanks Shales!
Madmac79
International
- 11 September 2006
Whoa man! Thanks a lot for fixing that stuff and share it with us, really. Agree with everything you said about WE8 LE, which is a true gem.. having such a complete patch to enjoy it will bring it even a notch up. Well done and of course thanks to all the other guys who made it possible!
millossobek
The 3-Stars Cup
Bros, I just had a REALLY nice match in PES 2008 (PC version, with VirtuaRED patch)! It was my first ever full match in this installment!
It was one of the most enjoyable matches I've played recently! For my first encounter, I decided to play as NIGERIA vs one of their biggest rivals, ARGENTINA.. And the NIGERIANS pull it off in this classic rivalry!! A classic Smash and Grab win!!
Loved a lot of things about this one! Played with 0.94 speed which I felt suited me best, Loved the pacing, the overall energy and feel of the game, it was exciting and fluid!! In fact, I enjoyed it so much, I decided to upload the match highlights!
A beautiful goal by Yakubu at minute 41, and the rest of the match was just a defensive stellar performance by the Nigerians, as Argentina really piled it on and had me on the ropes, especially in the second half.. Really thought the tactics were realistic, the Argentineans really pushing forward and showing desperation, as I tracked back and tried to salvage the win! I was really pleasantly surprised by this! A very dynamic and fun match that had me on the edge of my seat while playing.
Will be playing a lot more of PES 2008 in the future. @Madmac79 was right.. It can be a very enjoyable experience!!
It was one of the most enjoyable matches I've played recently! For my first encounter, I decided to play as NIGERIA vs one of their biggest rivals, ARGENTINA.. And the NIGERIANS pull it off in this classic rivalry!! A classic Smash and Grab win!!
Loved a lot of things about this one! Played with 0.94 speed which I felt suited me best, Loved the pacing, the overall energy and feel of the game, it was exciting and fluid!! In fact, I enjoyed it so much, I decided to upload the match highlights!
A beautiful goal by Yakubu at minute 41, and the rest of the match was just a defensive stellar performance by the Nigerians, as Argentina really piled it on and had me on the ropes, especially in the second half.. Really thought the tactics were realistic, the Argentineans really pushing forward and showing desperation, as I tracked back and tried to salvage the win! I was really pleasantly surprised by this! A very dynamic and fun match that had me on the edge of my seat while playing.
Will be playing a lot more of PES 2008 in the future. @Madmac79 was right.. It can be a very enjoyable experience!!
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Thanks Madmac!
Madmac79
International
- 11 September 2006
Not really. Other than the adaptive AI there are significant changes in the way you defend, the way players turn/moves and other things. The DNA is somehow always the same one so of course there are big similitudes, but to me it plays very very differently.
If I remember the diving was criticised very heavily by reviewers and even players themselves at release saying it shouldn't be in the game. That along with the 'Teamvision' stuff annoyed a lot of people. Looking back in hindsight it turns out that both features, especially the AI changes more than anything were actually really good. You can see the improved AI not only on the next gen versions but even on the PS2 version of the game. They improved upon it even further with J.League Winning Eleven 2008 Club Championship where the AI was some of the best there has been in a PES game.
slamsoze
International
- 28 September 2010
It's typically a KONAMI case. It was the first year diving was implemented, IIRC. And even for P1, the button combination was from the most simple, and ergonomic in the saga.
Then the KONAMI spirit kicked in and they faked everything up, both the AI execution and the button combination for human player.
delvecchio10
Non-League
- 27 August 2018
just simulating a Champions League Season with the Original 2006 Season Patch by @Fabri55. Currently playin the semi finals if interested to watch
Hey all, I’ve been playing Geezer’s 2005-2006 patch of WE9 Livewire Edition and it’s totally scratched that classic PES itch. Question is: which more modern PES game (if any) comes closest to those PS2 glory days? Are there any comprehensive patches or tools to update/fix those games to their time-specific eras? I’m not really interested in playing, say, PES 16 with 2022-2023 squads.
I’ve heard good things about PES 13 and spent a lot of time with PES 14 when it came out on my ancient laptop with the SMOKE patch and jenkey’s gameplay tool - but I’m wondering if there’s something better. Any help would be appreciated!
I’ve heard good things about PES 13 and spent a lot of time with PES 14 when it came out on my ancient laptop with the SMOKE patch and jenkey’s gameplay tool - but I’m wondering if there’s something better. Any help would be appreciated!
millossobek
The 3-Stars Cup
@Sooj If you're looking for good midfield battles and more low-scoring games like WE9, I'd recommend PES 2015. Out of the more modern PES, it is the one that is perhaps the most defensively oriented. It's a pretty good game, the only thing I don't like too much are the cameras but once you get used to them, it's an enjoyable experience.
If someone wants a modern completed game on PC then he should try the PES 2017...
PES 2014 was incomplete with bad CPU AI...
PES 2015 was PES 2014 with worse animations but better AI than PES 2014...
PES 2016 was PES 2015 with bad GK AI
PES 2017 was the completed modern game with bad cameras :d
If someone wants to play the best KONAMI's football games and he doesnt care about graphics then PES 5 and PES 6 are the best games!!!
PES 2014 was incomplete with bad CPU AI...
PES 2015 was PES 2014 with worse animations but better AI than PES 2014...
PES 2016 was PES 2015 with bad GK AI
PES 2017 was the completed modern game with bad cameras :d
If someone wants to play the best KONAMI's football games and he doesnt care about graphics then PES 5 and PES 6 are the best games!!!
millossobek
The 3-Stars Cup
EauRouge
Conference
- 17 December 2020
the only thing i don't want to play pes 08 is camera zoom. is there any tool or patch for changing camera height and zoomBros, I just had a REALLY nice match in PES 2008 (PC version, with VirtuaRED patch)! It was my first ever full match in this installment!
View attachment 183175
It was one of the most enjoyable matches I've played recently! For my first encounter, I decided to play as NIGERIA vs one of their biggest rivals, ARGENTINA.. And the NIGERIANS pull it off in this classic rivalry!! A classic Smash and Grab win!!
Loved a lot of things about this one! Played with 0.94 speed which I felt suited me best, Loved the pacing, the overall energy and feel of the game, it was exciting and fluid!! In fact, I enjoyed it so much, I decided to upload the match highlights!
A beautiful goal by Yakubu at minute 41, and the rest of the match was just a defensive stellar performance by the Nigerians, as Argentina really piled it on and had me on the ropes, especially in the second half.. Really thought the tactics were realistic, the Argentineans really pushing forward and showing desperation, as I tracked back and tried to salvage the win! I was really pleasantly surprised by this! A very dynamic and fun match that had me on the edge of my seat while playing.
Will be playing a lot more of PES 2008 in the future. @Madmac79 was right.. It can be a very enjoyable experience!!