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Yes but it's the same for the 2008 as the database is a copy paste with the PS2 version, i got the editor but didn't noticed, thanks for the info.

But i was talking after that version, when they removed stats. From PES 2011 to 2013 when they added cards, Att/Def assistance etc. and the others stuffs like
It wasn't on any editor.

No idea about that ugly PES 2009 but yes it should be the same. I got PES 2010 PC editor, i didn't checked if that stat is on it or not, probably. But it's the first one with "cards", even if stats wasn't removed, same as PES 2011.

Edit: Consistency disappeared on PES 2010 > The first with "cards" on it.
Well, i still don't understand growth type affect as there's 255 growth lol, related to "standard" "Late/Lasting", probably it depends from the starting of stats growth age, same as the decline. Hard to edit that.
 
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H_G said:
Well both are the same.

But I take into consideration that PES 2014 was the first on the new generation etc. The game in general was average.
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Well both were barebones. I was "lucky" enough to skip 2014 after the first week of its release, so i suffered only once.

Except for the removed features, the menu in ML, at least in PC that i play, equivalent of PS3 version, don't know if PS4 suffers the same, is a real pain in the arse. Input lag, clank menus, important features hidden under 2 or 3 submenus. Every time i start a ML save in 2015, i must get all that suffering again.

Even put some players in transfer list, and scout some players is a very wanky situation.

The only good parts i keep, the teams OPR details in the ML homescreen, the team trust stat, amd the ability set as much money as you want in transfer negotiations.

Also the presentation is superior to modern ML. Overlay graphics, fansy cutscenes, animations for every competition in its first day, even the semifake leagues or the fake PEU league, have a ln animated overlay screen the day they're starting.
 
rockstrongo said:
Pes 15 was the first on Xbox one /PS4 that's why it was so slimmed down.
I think they could have released it on new gen back then ,but didn't
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Speaking of 2014, my personal thought is, they HAD TO release it in newgen consoles, cause i find the ps3 gen, limited a lot that game's potential. Even the menu navigation is a real torture in PC, sometimes is like 100ms ping in input lag.

Does the next-gen 2015 on Xbox have any input lag in menu, cause my oldgen in PC does have a little bit, less than 2014 to be fair.
 
vialli82 said:
Yes but it's the same for the 2008 as the database is a copy paste with the PS2 version, i got the editor but didn't noticed, thanks for the info.
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I don't agree with you here.

Even PES 2011-2013 stats are the same as PES5-6. The players Att/ Def numbers replaced the defense arrows in the tactical instructions on PES 5-2009 games, and on PES 2010 there was a possibility to change the Att/ Def of each player like it was on Previous PES . (btw I don't understand (again) why they removed them)

I don't see any special card which replaced the consistency attributes (and also Teamwork)
 
And i don't see any Consistency in O.F. Editor / Database. I just said they removed it, that's all.

No proof of existence of that stats on 2010 to 2013, cards or whatever mate. Perhaps it was too hard to rate, like Mentality, or like when that stat was on 99 in PES 2 and then, they reduced it to 8 on PES 3.

Also, teamwork and tenacity/mentality are there until PES 2013 https://www.pesmaster.com/xabi-alonso/pes-2013/player/4251/
After that, it was Myclub planned. So no need that stat as it was generated differently (shitty but well).
 
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Speaking of 2014, my personal thought is, they HAD TO release it in newgen consoles, cause i find the ps3 gen, limited a lot that game's potential. Even the menu navigation is a real torture in PC, sometimes is like 100ms ping in input lag.

Does the next-gen 2015 on Xbox have any input lag in menu, cause my oldgen in PC does have a little bit, less than 2014 to be fair.
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Nope ,no input lag whatsoever ,very smooth.
Yes the 2014 is a pain in the ass ,especially since there's more or less a mouse your controlling in the menus ,instead of up/down and LB/RB to scroll
 
H_G said:
Have you seen it on PES 2008-2010 PC OF Editor ?

Despite that, this attribute was included on PES 2008-2010 PS2 OF Editor
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Not on PES 2010, like i said (was only talking about Consistency, the others stats are IG)
Edit: "Mentality" was a translation mistake on my previous post, i meaned "Consistency" who was on 99 on another name on PES1 to PES2, i don't remember how it was called. Sorry.
 

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I have two copies of Pes 15 (probably owned 2 more ,one 360 and a other XB1) but neither one is working that well ,I have to trick the disc drive a few times before getting anyone to work.

Wish past me was smarter and had bought digital copies instead.
 
slamsoze said:
Except for the removed features, the menu in ML, at least in PC that i play, equivalent of PS3 version, don't know if PS4 suffers the same, is a real pain in the arse. Input lag, clank menus, important features hidden under 2 or 3 submenus. Every time i start a ML save in 2015, i must get all that suffering again.
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Again, Konami doesn't build up on previous editions. If you compare it to FIFA

Here in ML, if you compare the ML mode PES 2010-2014, maybe (and probably) the worst in term of features is PES 2014.
Logically, this mode with each editions should be better, so PES 2014 should be better that the previous, but wasn't the case. What offered PES 2010 of club gestion wasn't in PES 2014-2015; what offered PES 2012 with the players' interactions wasn't in PES 2013

Only PES2016-2020 had a consistency, with no real renovation
 
H_G said:
Again, Konami doesn't build up on previous editions. If you compare it to FIFA

Here in ML, if you compare the ML mode PES 2010-2014, maybe (and probably) the worst in term of features is PES 2014.
Logically, this mode with each editions should be better, so PES 2014 should be better that the previous, but wasn't the case. What offered PES 2010 of club gestion wasn't in PES 2014-2015; what offered PES 2012 with the players' interactions wasn't in PES 2013

Only PES2016-2020 had a consistency, with no real renovation
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Yeah the cycle 2016~2020 was a stable one. We mostly recycled menus going from vertical to horizontal and vice versa,and some meaningless additions or small removals, etc.

At least they improved a little bit the transfers and the training system,not something critical, but at least, we were sent back in stone age and we went again to medieval age.

Training system still light years back, in comparison to PS3 golden era, for Master League..

Maybe eFootball will address all those issuehahahhahhhhah, i am kidding. :D

PES is deadn, and ML is also dead possibly.
 
Do you guys know of an effective way to miss penalties on PES 5? It’s crazy how often the ref gives soft pens in my favour. Sometimes it ruins really good matches. It’d be helpful if I could just miss them on purpose but even if I take them with my keeper they seem to nearly always go in.
 
Hi bros! Long time no post!

Anyway just in case any of you can help me find this, I'm looking for an Asian Leagues Patch for any retro PES PC (preferably PES 5, 6, 2011, or 2017). I found an Asian league patch for 2017 but it was discontinued and is far from complete. Ideally, I would like this patch to have J-League, K-League, and Chinese league at least, amongst others.. If any of you know of one, no matter how obscure, please let me know.

Thanks in advance! :TU:
 
It will be hard to found Asian league Patch without writing in Japanese/Chinese/Korean language

But option files, there's several on Kronos compilation especially for PES 6 (Iran, Japan, Chinese, i checked but no Korea unfortunately)
.... And tons of America South and a bit of North. https://www.pes6update.net/2019/01/pes-6-pes-5-world-leagues-option-file.html

There's no link : i'll update it and edit that post, wait a sec.

Just found that one from 2017-18 season with a lot of Asian leagues :
https://www.pes6update.net/2018/04/pes-6-option-file-new-season.html
If links doesn't work, just copy the name of the O.F. on google.

Just to say : i didn't tried any of those O.F.
I remember we had built Belgian league at the time, i would be very surprised if that's our version lol, i will check.
 
Thanks man, will look into these! I already downloaded Kronos collection, in fact, I am playing a League/FA Cup story in my ML thread with an invented third division English team, third division was included in Kronos! But will keep looking into the ones you mentioned.. Awesome. :TU:
 
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I will try the belgian league btw lol. If that our version, i will recognise it.
But we make it for us, to play a league, not to share so it was a bit rushed, perhaps not up to date totally.
And stats were made with VERTER Grinster lol, with some + and - regarding jumping/balance/header.

As the converter was far from perfect as it didn't took every stats in account... The winner of the league was RAEC Mons :D
For that league, we could select one "superstar" from the past like Maradona etc.

Well it was the only team i supported, and and the best player from our league(s) won the it so... We made leagues from PES 1 to PES 6 including Japanese version. More or less 14-16 league in a total of 6 years. Some games like PES 5 didn't got a "Final Evolution" so... 2 teams each others, one weak and one strong. From WE7 we started to made transfers between us, and points relative to Master league.

The winner could choose his next team. Matchs were 5 minutes lol, all attack. No choice we were too much. One season we were 10 to play.
 
Flipper the Priest said:
You've got the wrong man!
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Damn can’t you just pretend :LOL:

Does anyone know what teams are selected for the European Cups when you create a new ML in retro PES?

I think somebody mentioned on here that the teams in slots 1 and 2 of each league (when creating a new ML) automatically go through to the Final European Cup Group Stage, and the next 2 or 4 go into the qualifying stages.

I changed the name of mine to Champions League so I can’t remember what the official cup is called, something like WEFA. :D

Thanks :)
 
geeeeee said:
Damn can’t you just pretend :LOL:

Does anyone know what teams are selected for the European Cups when you create a new ML in retro PES?

I think somebody mentioned on here that the teams in slots 1 and 2 of each league (when creating a new ML) automatically go through to the Final European Cup Group Stage, and the next 2 or 4 go into the qualifying stages.

I changed the name of mine to Champions League so I can’t remember what the official cup is called, something like WEFA. :D

Thanks :)
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Sorry can’t help, but it’s the WEFA Championships. The UEFA/Europa is called WEFA Masters Cup I think. Interestingly, I’ve never competed in that competition in nearly 20 years of playing PES ML. The only way is to get knocked out of the qualifying groups I suppose.
 
geeeeee said:
Damn can’t you just pretend :LOL:

Does anyone know what teams are selected for the European Cups when you create a new ML in retro PES?

I think somebody mentioned on here that the teams in slots 1 and 2 of each league (when creating a new ML) automatically go through to the Final European Cup Group Stage, and the next 2 or 4 go into the qualifying stages.

I changed the name of mine to Champions League so I can’t remember what the official cup is called, something like WEFA. :D

Thanks :)
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I think I remember somebody saying which teams it was too, but it wasn't me either :LOL:
 
geeeeee said:
Thanks @Heisenberg , but your last or your latest? :SHOCK:
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I really didn't plan to make more Option Files after Laziale 2021, I didn't think I would feel like it but in the end the passion to edit and finish it got the best of me.

Now I am inserting kits and faces to the ISO of Pes 2008 (PS2), to adapt it with my OF Classic Laziale. In this case there is no rush to finish it, although in a few weeks I have made a lot of progress.
 

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Heisenberg said:
I really didn't plan to make more Option Files after Laziale 2021, I didn't think I would feel like it but in the end the passion to edit and finish it got the best of me.

Now I am inserting kits and faces to the ISO of Pes 2008 (PS2), to adapt it with my OF Classic Laziale. In this case there is no rush to finish it, although in a few weeks I have made a lot of progress.
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Are you using the ISO with kitserver and faceservers? Looks really good
 
marqisspes6 said:
Are you using the ISO with kitserver and faceservers? Looks really good
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Yes, it is an ISO shared by the user Vinie Pereira (all credits and thanks to him).
Contains kitserver (from all teams, including hidden national teams), face server (2000+ faces for each skin tone), hair server, pes14 ps2 kit models + Cristiano Ronaldo free kick new style.
In the link, in addition to the ISO you have a mini map.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/bz7mqszq1l8y5mg/PES_2008_BY_VINIE_PEREIRA.rar/file
 
Heisenberg said:
Yes, it is an ISO shared by the user Vinie Pereira (all credits and thanks to him).
Contains kitserver (from all teams, including hidden national teams), face server (2000+ faces for each skin tone), hair server, pes14 ps2 kit models + Cristiano Ronaldo free kick new style.
In the link, in addition to the ISO you have a mini map.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/bz7mqszq1l8y5mg/PES_2008_BY_VINIE_PEREIRA.rar/file
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Yes! I know that iso, its amazing, are you using my tool to assign faces and hairs? :) Btw! Found a way to enable special hairstyles (original) in pes2008
 
marqisspes6 said:
Yes! I know that iso, its amazing, are you using my tool to assign faces and hairs? :) Btw! Found a way to enable special hairstyles (original) in pes2008
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What is that tool to assign faces and hairstyles? At the moment I only use photoshop for kits and faces, I haven't touched on the subject of hairstyles yet.
 
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