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Vbo said:
Hey guys, i know that PES 5 is quite a defensive game especially in ML. Does anyone make use of any tool that makes it a bit more challenging. I am using the old school FLS patch on 6 stars and it is quite competitive on league mode, konami cup etc, but the ML mode is a different story just feels too easy to beat.
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You are lucky.

With this tool in ML, you will get (also) 100 points after a draw, 200 after a victory.

I tried it it's very difficult to buy players cuz you don't have enough money. If you find it very hard use this the second link (only for money, so use it with the AI tool in the same time)

https://evoweb.uk/threads/elaf-ai-tool-for-pes5-new-v9-6-2-nov-21.81326/

https://evoweb.uk/threads/elaf-hardcore-master-league-money-tool-for-pes5.82826/
 
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I can start our European Cup patch with the season 2000-01. There is a Champions league 2000-03 patch and it has these teams:

Lazio
Deportivo
Sporting
Man Utd
Monaco
Bayern
PSV (2001-02)
Galatasaray

The only team that needs to be changed to 2000-01 season is PSV, it should be easy enough. All of the teams were champions of their countries in the previous season, so it would be a true European Cup!

Imagine these matches:
Lazio-Monaco
Bayern-Galatasaray
Deportivo-Sporting
Man Utd-PSV
 
H_G said:
You are lucky.

With this tool in ML, you will get (also) 100 points after a draw, 200 after a victory.

I tried it it's very difficult to buy players cuz you don't have enough money. If you find it very hard use this the second link (only for money, so use it with the AI tool in the same time)

https://evoweb.uk/threads/elaf-ai-tool-for-pes5-new-v9-6-2-nov-21.81326/

https://evoweb.uk/threads/elaf-hardcore-master-league-money-tool-for-pes5.82826/
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Can you still play the v9.6 version but still get 500 points etc instead of 200? If so, how do you do that?
 
So, I just discovered that World Soccer WE 10 (Apr 27, 2006) have an updated database compared to PES5, and as always the players' stats are similar to PES6

The same for World Soccer WE 9 (Aug 4, 2005), it have an updated database compared to PES4, and as always the players' stats are similar to PES5

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Vbo said:
Can you still play the v9.6 version but still get 500 points etc instead of 200? If so, how do you do that?
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I think you have to keep open both tools in the same time (IA and Money tool). If you combine shift+H il will make both work
 
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geeeeee said:
Hi guys,

I have been having a few issues with doing the England kit (PES 2008) using GGS and I am really hoping that someone maybe able to help.

I originally changed the England kit to one from another patch from PES 6. I did this by loading the patch into GGS and then, locating the England kit, saving it, and then loading the PES2008 patch into GGS and then right-click dragging the new kit over the old one.

Initially I thought it looked ok but looking closer it is not right. So I decided to go back to the original kit. But here is where the problem is.

I thought that I could just load the original PES2008 patch into GGS and then copy the original England kit onto the PES2008 patch that I am working on. But when I play, England's kit is now see through. I have tried all different things but it is still the same.

For some reason when I check the current bitmap for the kit it says that 203 colours are used but on the original one there were 256 colours used. I believe that this is the problem but I cannot work out how to rectify it. Even the amount of memory used is a lot less, so something is definitely missing somewhere.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I just want England's old kit back :(

Thanks.

PS. I have found out how to do it. I just loaded up the original PES2008 patch into GGS and extracted the England uniform file and loaded it into the file I am working on. Phew! I have come too far with this file of mine without needing to balls it all up :LOL:
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Hi, it is useful if you get something like a kitserver for this game? i mean, not like pes6 pc, something like having kits for all teams that you can import from a png, if thats the case i could talk with a friend who does this to ps2 and psp
 
H_G said:
It was released in August 2007.
As I had shown, it have updated rosters and players stats compared to PES 6
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Yes, such as JLW2008 and JL2009, both based on winter transfers. I would have preferred a "Final Evolution" completing the Summer transfers missing to start an ML but well.

The only game i really wanted to get it, but didn't get a version with roster updated to summer transfers was unfortunately PES 5. JL 2007 is PES 6 with summer transfers if i remember well...

So for PES 5 : the only solution to correct Winning eleven 10. I wanted to build a "Summer Edition" like all the previous Liveware Evolution japanese version or "International" (also japanese : there's US versions with exactly the same rosters) so it's more realistic, based on Fabri Original patch, but it's pretty hard.

I would die to got a real PES 5 / WE9LE Jap version with transfers and updated stats, but it's impossible to found.

Same for PES 2008 (PC started to got "DLC" with PES 2009) like i said J-League version are based on winter transfers. The last which i got interest on it, never tried the others but well, i tried PES 2014 and i loved it : it's a PES 2008 experience, but visually the animations seems different, such as the body shape from the players + there's tons of modes.

Also one pretty weird stuff : there's a JLWE10 version without transfers, same rosters as PES 6 but with National teams, i don't remember when it's out but i think on February/March. Then a version some month later from the same season JL2007 Club Championship with club only.
 
I started to work on and correct a lot of new players wrong transfers, based on WE10 so, with a calculation regarding Balance / already talked about it but they decreased or to be more concrete, they increased the balance range regarding the arrows form. Which result as a lower balance, but it doesn't change the game itself in fact..

As i already posted it some page ago. If i remember they made -1 in Stamina between the 6 and the 2008.

Also be careful about translation patch IF you want the original database like me!
i tried some of them and compared with the original version, and the patcher changed stuffs on some version.

For example, impossible to found a translation version of WE6FE with the original Fiorentina in game : all translations are based on Rhapsody (italian team) replacing Fiorentina by Chievo. I tried on Spanish, English, didn't found another language.

I don't like it to be honest, historically Fio is a must have but well.

I got the same issue with WE9... But found a way to restore the patch : i saved the Japanese version on an Option file. And it restored some transfers which were done as some players signed in July.
Also, another weird stuff regarding WE9, probably a licence issue : on PES 5 Cagliari was fake "Testo di Moro" team, but with real players appearence and stats. Not in WE9 > every players were completely modified with fake height, weight, face, but real names... Super weird. Usually, it's fake name and real data. Here, you got the opposite when you check their name on the back. There's David Suazo replaced by a fake 198cm from Norway player, i checked every and he don't exist.

They restored it on PES 6, well Cagliari got his licence back.

ATM i'm updating PES 2021. But i'll continue later, i want to provide the almost perfect PES 5 version of all time thanks to that super patch visually from the italian team Original Patch :SMUG:
Graphically it's a real pleasure. But there's not "tons of" but let's say a good package of errors from created players. But it's outstanding in terms of ambiance, faces, it's all pretty clean.
 
vialli82 said:
I would die to got a real PES 5 / WE9LE Jap version with transfers and updated stats, but it's impossible to found.
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I think there's a possibility to find bins files from WS WE10 related to the database and transfert them to 0_text of PES 5

Since WS WE10 and PES 5 have the same clubs and Nationals teams
 
WS WE10 was released in April 2006, two months before the world cup (Spain and Netherlands licensed for the first time). Players abilities in this game are similar to PES6.

This means that players abilities on PES6 are based on maybe January-March 2006.
 
I'm doing it manually, but the thing is the database is not completely the same. And there's added youth or missing transfers from that time on WE10, i checked on Soccerway, Transfermarkt etc.
And some teams aren't in the patch, some used players to create some others etc. it would transform the patch in something pretty weird lol. It would take much more time to found the errors and correct than recopying manually like i do.

But if it's for a PC/PS2 basic O.F. from the original database,or something like that it would be pretty cool as a basis to complete (duplicates not only on NT but on fakes clubs like Benfica/Porto, correcting every kits etc.)
Well, We10 is still Winter transfers so, that's what i mean, there's no Liveware or International version with summer corrected and it's sad for the best version to me, and probably the best era too.
 
H_G said:
WS WE10 was released in April 2006, two months before the world cup (Spain and Netherlands licensed for the first time). Players abilities in this game are similar to PES6.

This means that players abilities on PES6 are based on maybe January-March 2006.
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There's many differences small or big as i worked on it (just take a look at Quagliarella WE10 vs PES6, etc. many players boosted in PES 6 or decreased, David Suazo same he got PES 5 stats with the Body Balance formula, in fact much more change that between for example, WE9 vs PES5)
 
And here's the first appearance of Higuain and Walcott in PES/WE serie

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Villa got another costumed face compared to PES5

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Torres got another hair style

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vialli82 said:
in fact much more change that between for example, WE9 vs PES5
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WS WE9 database (released in August 2005) is an update of PES4. Eto'o got a present face, Barca shirt got real font and numbers style, the same for Real Madrid. Beckham had a new hairstyle and wear a long shirt

It's Like WE 2007 J-league (with updated database compared to PES6) (released in August 2007) and PES 2008

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H_G said:
I think there's a possibility to find bins files from WS WE10 related to the database and transfert them to 0_text of PES 5

Since WS WE10 and PES 5 have the same clubs and Nationals teams
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pretty sure we10 is pes6 based, if you grab one player from the database and paste it in pes6 probably it will work, but not for pes5, probably ws we9 will do the job since the mapping of stats its the same, one of the things i wanna do is to move players from jleague we9 to pes5, the only matter will be the appeareace and callnames because they will not match but everything else should be okay
 
H_G said:
Why ? I mean they got the same leagues and national teams.

How
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mainly because when konami uses the name for some game they keep the same base, its a principle of programming, like a version control, but the best way to check it is to grab the binary data for a player and compare it, or insert it into the game and test

H_G said:
As I know, the majority of teams of J-League WE9 are from asians leagues
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yes, and sadly its not ported to pc, so i just wanted to do that, at least the database, probably someone else could carry on doing the kits, and faces (since they're not compatible with pc)
 
marqisspes6 said:
mainly because when konami uses the name for some game they keep the same base, its a principle of programming, like a version control, but the best way to check it is to grab the binary data for a player and compare it, or insert it into the game and test
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There's a possibility to try that with the database editor ? since both dkz studio can open them
 
marqisspes6 said:
Hi, it is useful if you get something like a kitserver for this game? i mean, not like pes6 pc, something like having kits for all teams that you can import from a png, if thats the case i could talk with a friend who does this to ps2 and psp
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Hi @marqisspes6 , yes that would be really useful to have some kind of kitserver for it. It is my dream :)

I would really appreciate it if you could talk to your friend. Thank you :)
 
geeeeee said:
What part is not saving? What system are you on?


Here is the next game of the LAC Cup Round 1.

Australia (my bro) v Fulham (me)




This is the last game for a few weeks until I meet with my brother again.

I noticed that there are more fouls when I play the CPU than when I play against my brother, we must be very fair in the tackle
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pc edition. i found a way to save the game. the problem was it never loaded the previous OF save whenever i started the game, so i have to always load it manually from save settings.
 
kickitout94 said:
pc edition. i found a way to save the game. the problem was it never loaded the previous OF save whenever i started the game, so i have to always load it manually from save settings.
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Oh ok that's strange, sorry I am not familiar with the pc version. It must be saving it in the wrong folder or loading from the wrong folder at start up.
 
Guys I was wondering if I could repost an issue I haven't been able to solve.

I am playing the following patched version https://evoweb.uk/threads/pes-6-global-patches-full-installers-by-sany.67651/page-62#post-3426975
PES 6 Romania Liga 1 Betano 2018

I'm having a problem with stadiums. No matter what stadium I choose, whether it is exhibition or Master League, the same default one appears in every single match.

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Strangely enough, the patch itself includes a lot stadiums, and as you can see, the teams are assigned to different stadiums in edit mode.. But when I actually go and play a match, no matter what team or stadium I choose, it always reverts back to the same stadium, The Arena Nationale FCSB! I don't know why this happens and would like to solve it..

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A few points:

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1. The Stadiums are present in the kitserver.

2. Looking at the stadium-map, it seems to be empty. Strange that a patched game would come with this empty map..Problem is, I have no idea on how to set it up.. And I don't know if this is the problem because even in exhibition mode, it shows the same stadium the whole time.

Wondering if anyone would give me a hand! Maybe @marqisspes6 or anyone else? Thanks a lot bros..
 
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millossobek said:
Guys I was wondering if I could repost an issue I haven't been able to solve.

I am playing the following patched version https://evoweb.uk/threads/pes-6-global-patches-full-installers-by-sany.67651/page-62#post-3426975
PES 6 Romania Liga 1 Betano 2018

I'm having a problem with stadiums. No matter what stadium I choose, whether it is exhibition or Master League, the same default one appears in every single match.

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Strangely enough, the patch itself includes a lot stadiums, and as you can see, the teams are assigned to different stadiums in edit mode.. But when I actually go and play a match, no matter what team or stadium I choose, it always reverts back to the same stadium, The Arena Nationale FCSB! I don't know why this happens and would like to solve it..

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A few points:
1. The Stadiums are present in the kitserver.

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2. Looking at the stadium-map, it seems to be empty. Strange that a patched game would come with this empty map..Problem is, I have no idea on how to set it up.. And I don't know if this is the problem because even in exhibition mode, it shows the same stadium the whole time.

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Wondering if anyone would give me a hand! Maybe @marqisspes6 or anyone else? Thanks a lot bros..
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during kit selection press select or f1? i dont remember which one was on keyboard until you get to the stadium selection then press r1 or l1 to select the stadium from the stadiums folder in kitserver, otherwise just install a new kitserver probably the one use in that patch is broken
 
marqisspes6 said:
during kit selection press select or f1? i dont remember which one was on keyboard until you get to the stadium selection then press r1 or l1 to select the stadium from the stadiums folder in kitserver, otherwise just install a new kitserver probably the one use in that patch is broken
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Hi bro!

Ok now I can choose the stadiums by using the method you told me, great..

But now my question is, is there a way to set this up somehow in ML so that I don't have to select stadium every time? Thanks a lot..
 
H_G said:
WS WE9 database (released in August 2005) is an update of PES4. Eto'o got a present face, Barca shirt got real font and numbers style, the same for Real Madrid. Beckham had a new hairstyle and wear a long shirt

It's Like WE 2007 J-league (with updated database compared to PES6) (released in August 2007) and PES 2008

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Yes bro, you're talking about my favourite version of all time lol, even better than PES5 and WE9LE to me (more midfield battle).
That's the first version of the PES 5 era in fact.

But it's based on winter transfers too.

It's WE8 Liveware Evolution which is an improved version of PES 4 and got summer transfers, same database. Not WE9.
PES 4 = WE8 > PES 4 > WE8LE
PES 5 = WE9 > PES 5 > (No summer transfers version)
Note : they released a J-League Asia Championship instead. It's the only one of the kind.
But the European team are like 2 to 5 teams by country with fake names on two panels not even updated, and all the rest is got J1 + J2 league, China League, Korean League and tons of teams from West and East Asia. No NT.

WE10 is the prequel of PES6, there's countries like Togo, Trinidad Tobago etc. replacing some.
I worked on it to update the updated selections from the 2006 World Cup for French Evolution patch.
 
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