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Flawl3ssCowb0y said:
So TG, your saying that you don't care about HD gaming? You don't mind playing in a low, blurry resolution?
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Again, you do not need HDMI to play games at HD resolutions..........thus making the point you are trying to establish irrelevant.

Check my post above your last post for information about the cables needed for HD resolutions.
 
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deftonesmx17 said:
FYI, you do not need HDMI to play games at HD resolutions. You will only need it for encrypted HD movies. Component cables(which will be used on the cheaper PS3 and is used on the X360) will display 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, and 1080p...........so the game will work just fine at HD resolutions without the HDMI port. The xbox360 works just fine in HD resolutions without an HDMI port, or did you not know that :lol:
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I knew that, but I don't know much about the million different ports and cables a HDTV uses.

Anycase, thats fair enough and is obviously better than I thought. Still, Sony is leaving HDTV owners little option other than to buy the more expensive console in order to watch their DVDs in full resolution
 
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Flawl3ssCowb0y said:
Still, Sony is leaving HDTV owners little option other than to buy the more expensive console in order to watch their DVDs in full resolution
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You need HDMI to watch Blu-Ray movies. Which basically means that the cheaper package isn't a Blu-Ray player. So other than the additional storage on the disc, you are paying for an expensive drive you can't use properly.
 
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Flawl3ssCowb0y said:
Still, Sony is leaving HDTV owners little option other than to buy the more expensive console in order to watch their DVDs in full resolution
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Only if said Blu-Ray movie uses data encryption will they need the HDMI port. This also makes me wonder how M$ will make the HD-DVD addon for the xbox360 work as data encrypted HD-DVD movies will also need an HDMI or DVI port.


http://ps3.ign.com/articles/703/703135p1.html
Both HD-DVD and Blu-ray employ an AACS (Advanced Access Content System) copy protection scheme that, to keep things short and (somewhat) simple, will down-scale HD content to a non-HD resolution if it isn't displayed over an HDCP-compliant HDMI connection. In other words, hooking up either of these formats via component connections won't cut it for true HD playback, at least in the future. Luckily, studios behind both formats have said that they won't ship their first batches of movies (possibly for a few years) with the scheme enabled to give users time to shift over to HDMI-enabled televisions
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IMO we will have the PS4(if $ony doesnt go bankrupt over the PS3) and the next xbox right around the coner when movie companies start to ship movies that have the encryption enabled. That is if the next-gen movie formats even take off.
 
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The video socket of the 360 is arbitary.....I'm presuming that there will be a HDMI cable?

In all honesty, if I wanted a HD-DVD/Blu-Ray drive, I'll by a separate one. There is no doubt that Sony will try to cut costs with the PS3 even when it is retailing at $500-$600 -it's like getting a DVD player from Asda or summat ;)

The fact of the matter is that Sony hasn't thought through this properly. The joypad was blatantly a last minute thing (Phil Harrison even mentioned that only one game has been adapted). The technology between the PS3 and Wii is different - games working well with the Wii won't necessarily work well with the PS3's pad. They concentrated so much on the Cell chip - but it turns out that it is not a massive step over the 360 anyway (if any of the games are to go by).
 
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Flawl3ssCowb0y said:
Ok firstly, this generation of consoles is going to be based ALOT around High Definition, so your statement is pretty stupid IMO.

So tell me this. You buy the cheaper PS3, but then in a year or so decide you want a HDTV when the prices come down (you know what technology is like). You buy one, but then have to play in a crap resolution cause you bought the cheaper PS3 and can't upgrade. At least with the 360 you can. So are you going to buy another PS3? I think not.

Having one console without the other having HDMI capabilities is downright dirty
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Add in the fact that they are whoring HD out with every piece of news posted about the PS3.
 
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cowden_harley said:
ha ha you tool, listen to you make excuses for sony. Thats where technology is heading! Why advertise the fact you can have 3 hdmi sockets on it at last e3 if it wasnt that important. :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
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tools? in your family, you tool.
 
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nah sony will be fine. we all know that. Its gonna sell out and catch the 360 pretty quick.

They have done this before, so nothing surprising. but...what a poor conference.
 
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Adonis said:
nah sony will be fine. we all know that. Its gonna sell out and catch the 360 pretty quick.

They have done this before, so nothing surprising. but...what a poor conference.
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I wouldn't be so sure....GTA for many was the killer app for the PS2. That ain't even an exclusive. For me - and most of us here, it was PES/WE - PES ain't an exclusive either. I have to say that the X360 controller is growing on me. I will however be missing out on Final Fantasy and MGS - although I will say that the quality of FF has gone down since FF7 and there is Splinter Cell for MGS?

Sony were bragging on about how their online system will be better than XBox Live.....we haven't been shown any thing about the online play capabilities - just ways of spending your hard earned dosh on downloadable content(!) :(. M$ on the other hand are talking about syncing your gamer account with everything and increasing that online play experience.

The XBox was a better console than the PS2 - but that counted for Jack. The problem now is that the games on the PS3 aren't looking significantly better than the 360 - had they looked like Killzone 2, I would retract my statement. Fact is - as shown in arguably one the most important gaming events in the calendar - Sony has failed to live up to their promises....And they want you to pay $500-$600 regardless.

This is a very different picture from the PSX and PS2 - and they are near abouts a year behind.
 
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I think i know already the date of MGS4 ! i think it's the 07/07/07

Logo the logo :
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Look the both "L" and the "4" turn at 180°, you can see 777 ;)
the first MGS out the 07/07/87 :
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache...al+gear"+7+july+1987&hl=fr&gl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=2

so MSG4 = MGS 20 years old, the last one ?
 
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anyone seen thier presentation yet?? (Konami that is ;))
 
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studeep said:
anyone seen thier presentation yet?? (Konami that is ;))
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starts at 2.30am uk time mate.

Rockykabir, you made some fantastic points but overall many will be irrelevent to certain people.

Personally, I knew GTA would be multi format. Im surprised that its out on 360 from day 1, but it was gonna happen in the end anyway. Splinter Cell wont really compare to MGS4. why? because SC is a multiformat launch. The developers wont be concentrating on just the nextgen title.

I think you'll find most of people who bought a PS2 will get a PS3.

You might think it different but I really dont. That fact that Sony showed none of the big hitters has a negative effect, but at the same time we know they're gonna come.

And the internet service will mirror Xbox live, so it wont be bad. With ofcourse the added feature of gaming online being free.

Right now the most negative feedback is the price, but what you get in the box is value for money. It would of been better to hear Microsoft give a price on their HD-Drive add-on to get a real comparison, but having it out of the box is much better.

People with enough money will buy it on launch, people who havent will wait. but they'll get it in the end.

And finally regarding the games, nothing right now compares to MGS4 or Heavenly Sword graphically on the 360 imo. With first wave PS3 game looking better/as good as 2nd wave 360 games says alot for the machines power.
 
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ye unfortunately........
good news for MGS fans (like me) though :mryellow: at the end. cause of MGS, i've been following that blog right from the very first word, with me teeth sunk half way into my fingers, waiting since, 08:00pm,:shock: (ye i'm that much of a fan) but i just couldn't stand reading it without having the full on experience, which is why i wanted to see if anyone else was watching a live feed from someplace else or something ;)...Will prolly buy a PS3 for this :mrgreen:
thanx anyways :), have to retire to my bed now *sets alarm to wake up in 15mins for footage*
 
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Its horses for course Ash, both normally require you sneaking around loads. Will MGS4 get a worldwide release then? Or in Japan on the 7/7/07? Thus Europe and US about the autumn time?
 
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Looks like play.com got rubbish info about PES for 360 coming out in November... its now Jan next year ah well hope and wait I spose.

DJ
 
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Holio said:
Its horses for course Ash, both normally require you sneaking around loads. Will MGS4 get a worldwide release then? Or in Japan on the 7/7/07? Thus Europe and US about the autumn time?
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No!!! Forgot about that, this time I can't import from USA.
 
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ashmufc said:
Are you joking? :) MGS is much better IMHO.
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I actually really like the Splinter Cell stories........but that's maybe cos I'm a huge fan of Clancy novels - and quite into the political drama. But yes, ultimately, boths games just require you to sneak around.

MGS was one my fave games of all time. But, dare I say it, the sequels were a bit of a letdown. Ended a bit quickly and I thought there was a lot of overacting - but that's my personal opinion of course(!) ;)

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6149889.html
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I dunno....I wouldn't get too excited guys. My impression is that it won't be the Nextgen update we are hoping for. I reckon that'll come with WE11 or in between the releases.

EDIT: Judging from the pics coming out.......I guess I've been proved wrong!
 
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What game is that a render of Thomas?
 
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Its the new Metal Gear, Raiden is the first picture, looking more gay than ever actually.
 
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Adonis said:
And finally regarding the games, nothing right now compares to MGS4 or Heavenly Sword graphically on the 360 imo. With first wave PS3 game looking better/as good as 2nd wave 360 games says alot for the machines power.
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Yeah, course they do.. cos Huxley and GOW are really poor... unlike Interstellar Marines and Monster Madness, cos they're great eh? Although one thing is true, I haven't seen much with slowdown compared to what's in MGS4 so perhaps you're right after all :roll:

I think you should take a very close look at the games coming out for the PS3 and take a clear lensed, unbiassed look at what is out there. If you really think that what you have seen is that impressive, then I guess Sony really has a very easily impressed following.

And on the quality of games, it has absolutely nothing to do with the machines power, it's about the ability of the developer.If gaming over the last 30 years hasn't taught you that much (if you have seen gaming for that long that is) then you have a lot to learn. Power and success do not go hand in hand in this industry, never has, never will. Take a look at the DS v PSP success figures if you want proof.

Unless Sony make a drastic change to their natural instinct, to release huge amounts of below average games in the hope that the occasional gem will save them, they're going to start losing money... fast! Even the biggest companies can only stand to lose money for a certain period of time, after that, it starts to hurt.

The only real loyalty I had in gaming was to Sega who I still believe make some truly outstanding software, once they had gone I couldn't care for one company or the other. Treat me as a customer decently, give me some decent games to play on reasonably priced hardware and I'll buy your console. Treat me like a mug and your hardware can rot on the shelf, I'll happily buy it second hand so they only get one full price purchase.

Mr Katuragi's arrogance stinks and it's rubbing off on the rest of their attitudes. Stuff those with little money, we just want the rich kids. Give us $500 and when you realise in a years time that you want the extra... tough, give us another $600 and you can have it.

Or maybe you could buy a Wii and a 360 for the same amount... hmmmm, now which would I choose... if I was a real gamer?
 
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If you can afford it and want the PS3, by all means people should go for it. However, I doubt many will be in the same situation.

Hence fewer people online - which was the case with the XBox Vs PS2. Also, you've got the possibility of Vista users + 360s users all unified on XBox Live. Online play is gonna play a huge role in this so called next gen battle - Sony hasn't indicated in any way how they will make it a better experience tbh.
 
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