Dominick, my friend, u really have to find better sources :-pp
Guido Rossi is man of absolute probity, and he was chosed to guide the federcalcio during that though months, coz of his encyclopedic law knowledge. His only duty, as federcalcio commisioner (not president) was to creat a code of rules. and that's the only thing he did.
he absolutely didn't omitted any kind of evidences. and i can guarrantee it because in this country (like in any other continental law system country) trials evidences are not public until the end of the trial.
the only ones who have control of the evidences are the magistrates, and the scandal became pubblic (2 years ago) when our magistrates already finished the preliminary investigation. So it would have been impossible for anybody to manipulate those evidences.
guido rossi wasn''t even federcalcio president when the italian magistrates were doing their investigations!
Tim mobile has anything to do with the scandal. they didn't intercept anybody. they just provided the tapes of some conversation (every telecomunications company must save the tapes) to the magistrates when the magistrates asked for them..... and tim mobile was forced to do it by the law.
the Adamo Bove story has anything to do with serie a or football.
adamo bove, wich was not a police officer, but a Tim mobile employee, (responsible for the "security governance") illegally sent some infos to the SISMI (italian secret service) about the Abu Omar kidnapping.
it's a very "obscure" story, wich involves the SISMI the CIA and the imam Abu omar, who was kidnapped by the italian secret services to help the CIA.
u may find more infos about it here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_Rapito
anyway this has anything to do with football, of course.
moggi's lawyers pretended to expose as evidences hundreds of hours of phone conversations, claiming that in all those conversation moggi never talked about refs.
and of course the magistrates replied "we heard all those tapes during the preliminary investigations, and indeed there was nothing incriminating in those tapes.... so why should we listen to them during the trial?"pretty obvious indeed.
then, talking about all those names u mentioned....
according to the evidences carraro didn't have any part in the scandal. carraro is a fucking bastard.... he's very very similar to moggi, if u know what i mean.
but, no matter how much i hate him, he was not involved in the scandal, that's for sure.
and besides we finally got rid of him, when pancalli took his place at federcalcio.
Tullio Lanese, former president of the AIA (referees association) was the "bridge" between moggi and bergamo\pairetto. he and mazzini were the ones who worked together with bergamo and pairetto to fix the matches....... he worked with juve management, not with milan management. the tapes of the phone calls between him and moggi became pubblic, after the end of the preliminary investigations and everybody here in italy listened to them (at the tv). he was one of the main actors of moggi's system.
talking about berlusconi's and tronchetti provera's media companies is quite pointless... yes they own a lot of media, so what? also the agnelli family (juve owners) onws a lot of media..... why not mentioning them too then?
Francesco saverio Borrelli a political associate of berlusconi???
this is probably the craziest thing of all mate! francesco saverio borrelli is one of italy's most important magistrates (and he was chosed to guide the federcalcio investigation coz of this). HE'S BERLUSCONI MOST TERRIFIC ENEMY! he's the one who led the public attorney office in 5 criminal trials against berlusconi in the last 10 years. he's probably berlusconi's worst nightmare!!
who the hell give u theese info Dom!
they are not 3 mate, they're 43!!!!! if u look at the corriere dello sport site u might still find a dossier with all the charges and the matches examinated by the magistrates.
take a look at the archive... it should be in a september 2007 newspaper, if i do remember well.
by reading your post i can understand why u were so suspicious, mate.
but seriously, check your sources carefully, because almost everything u wrote is absolutely wrong.
i think u know me pretty well, Dominick. i hope u realised i'm not biased or anything... i'm not biased about palermo, let it go juventus or inter.
i love juve, as much as i love inter, milan, roma, manchester, barca, etc...
i have no reason to defend moratti or tronchetti....actually i have to say i don't even like them!
but those "infos" u posted are completely wrong #-o
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thriller is one of the greatest albums of all time, period...
oh and yes aquliani is going to be a great one
Ok, might I also add
Prandelli = GOD
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sorry Dominic. Do u know your name has italian roots, btw? "Dominicus" is an ancient latin word and it means "belonging to God"
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. I respect your view on the matter.next season he will probably leave for another club (palermo?) to get more playtime..... and he will be able to show his class.
anyway, i have to admit me too i would like to see rosina taking his place in our national team for euro 2008
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i don't know mate. i mean how many matches he played as a starter so far this season? i might be wrong but i think he didn't even play 1\2 of juve matches so far.
and most important, how many times did he play in his proper role???
coz i always saw him playing wide on the right (taking camo's place) or on the left (taking nedved's place).
his role is del piero's one.
and being a young player he needs to play most of his team's seasonal matches in that position, to earn confidence and to improve himself (like he did in livorno).
an btw, even playing seldom and off role, i'd say he was pretty good. at least till december (lately he wasn't that great actually).
imo it would have been the best choice for him to follow giovinco and marchisio path; going somewhere else to have the possibility to play at least 20 matches as starter, and in his role.
Giovinco has a huge talent. what he did so far with empoli is simply great, and he might turn into a new del piero (like everybody in europe expects)....
but he's still very young, this is his first season in serie a, and it's way too early to compare him to a player like rosina, who already proved himself through the years.... and of course it's way too early to say if he will be worthy of italy's jersey in 4 years...
and the same goes for marchisio. a very, very, VERY promising youngster who could become a world class player..... but who still has everything to prove.... and a lot to learn
wow! :w00t:
btw mate DON'T EVEN THINK TO WASH THAT SHIRT!!! the sweat (no matter how dsgusting it is) is part of the shirt!!!
my mother washed the shirt maradona gave me..... it was 16 years ago, but i still get mad when i remember it :censor:
dude diego gave you a shirt and thats all you post about it??!?!?!?!
TELL US MORE!!!
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, hows Kaka's Italian btw he seems to be very fluent
Giovinco has a huge talent. what he did so far with empoli is simply great, and he might turn into a new del piero (like everybody in europe expects)....
but he's still very young, this is his first season in serie a, and it's way too early to compare him to a player like rosina, who already proved himself through the years.... and of course it's way too early to say if he will be worthy of italy's jersey in 4 years...
and the same goes for marchisio. a very, very, VERY promising youngster who could become a world class player..... but who still has everything to prove.... and a lot to learn
