Re: Serie A Thread
Dominick, my friend, u really have to find better sources :-pp
Why was an Inter investor and former Inter employee allowed to control the calciopoli trial? This man Guido Rossi not only omitted evidence that would have cleared Juventus but discarded evidence that would have condemned his former employers (Inter).
Guido Rossi is man of absolute probity, and he was chosed to guide the federcalcio during that though months, coz of his encyclopedic law knowledge. His only duty, as federcalcio commisioner (not president) was to creat a code of rules. and that's the only thing he did.
he absolutely didn't omitted any kind of evidences. and i can guarrantee it because in this country (like in any other continental law system country) trials evidences are not public until the end of the trial.
the only ones who have control of the evidences are the magistrates, and the scandal became pubblic (2 years ago) when our magistrates already finished the preliminary investigation. So it would have been impossible for anybody to manipulate those evidences.
guido rossi wasn''t even federcalcio president when the italian magistrates were doing their investigations!
Do people know the same man that sponsors Italian soccer through his ownership of TIM Mobile managed to intercept the phone calls that would eventually be used against Juventus?
Tim mobile has anything to do with the scandal. they didn't intercept anybody. they just provided the tapes of some conversation (every telecomunications company must save the tapes) to the magistrates when the magistrates asked for them..... and tim mobile was forced to do it by the law.
Do they know that he gave them to his partner (Moratti) illegally through a police officer who sanctioned the intercepts and then ordered that they be altered or destroyed in cases where Inter were incriminated? Eventually a security employee at Telecom Italia confessed to the shady wire taps and the police officer killed himself on July 21st 2006 (his name was Adamo Bove).
the Adamo Bove story has anything to do with serie a or football.
adamo bove, wich was not a police officer, but a Tim mobile employee, (responsible for the "security governance") illegally sent some infos to the SISMI (italian secret service) about the Abu Omar kidnapping.
it's a very "obscure" story, wich involves the SISMI the CIA and the imam Abu omar, who was kidnapped by the italian secret services to help the CIA.
u may find more infos about it here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_Rapito
anyway this has anything to do with football, of course.
Does anyone know that the wire taps were never listened to in court despite Juventus defense requesting it?
moggi's lawyers pretended to expose as evidences hundreds of hours of phone conversations, claiming that in all those conversation moggi never talked about refs.
and of course the magistrates replied "
we heard all those tapes during the preliminary investigations, and indeed there was nothing incriminating in those tapes.... so why should we listen to them during the trial?" 
pretty obvious indeed.
then, talking about all those names u mentioned....
according to the evidences
carraro didn't have any part in the scandal. carraro is a fucking bastard.... he's very very similar to moggi, if u know what i mean.
but, no matter how much i hate him, he was not involved in the scandal, that's for sure.
and besides we finally got rid of him, when pancalli took his place at federcalcio.
Tullio Lanese, former president of the AIA (referees association) was the "bridge" between moggi and bergamo\pairetto. he and mazzini were the ones who worked together with bergamo and pairetto to fix the matches....... he worked with juve management, not with milan management. the tapes of the phone calls between him and moggi became pubblic, after the end of the preliminary investigations and everybody here in italy listened to them (at the tv). he was one of the main actors of moggi's system.
talking about berlusconi's and tronchetti provera's media companies is quite pointless... yes they own a lot of media, so what? also the agnelli family (juve owners) onws a lot of media..... why not mentioning them too then?
- Federcalcio (FIGC Investigations) President: Borelli, a political associate of Berlusconi and discovered having meetings behind closed doors with Galliani throughout the trial
Francesco saverio Borrelli a political associate of berlusconi???
this is probably the craziest thing of all mate! francesco saverio borrelli is one of italy's most important magistrates (and he was chosed to guide the federcalcio investigation coz of this). HE'S BERLUSCONI MOST TERRIFIC ENEMY! he's the one who led the public attorney office in 5 criminal trials against berlusconi in the last 10 years. he's probably berlusconi's worst nightmare!!
who the hell give u theese info Dom!
The accusation of match fixing revolved around three games
they are not 3 mate, they're 43!!!!! if u look at the corriere dello sport site u might still find a dossier with all the charges and the matches examinated by the magistrates.
take a look at the archive... it should be in a september 2007 newspaper, if i do remember well.
by reading your post i can understand why u were so suspicious, mate.
but seriously, check your sources carefully,
because almost everything u wrote is absolutely wrong.
i think u know me pretty well, Dominick. i hope u realised i'm not biased or anything... i'm not biased about palermo, let it go juventus or inter.
i love juve, as much as i love inter, milan, roma, manchester, barca, etc...
i have no reason to defend moratti or tronchetti....actually i have to say i don't even like them!
but those "infos" u posted are completely wrong #-o
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