Serie A Thread - 2014/15 Season

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By the way, my second Italian team is Palermo - nonno da caltanissetta:D

:D

about mexes, it would be a great buy, but it will be hard to get him..... more easy to go for barzagli, who will leave for sure next season (at the moment juve is in pole position for him).

and let me tell u: mexes is great, but barzagli is even better :)

zambrotta would be a good buy too. i also heard some rumours about emerson linked to milan. but if i were galliani, i would go for deco rather than emerson (deco will leave for sure, as barca wanna let iniesta play at his place). he could be a quality backup for pirlo.
 
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Problem withe Deco is that I'm not sure he'd want to be a sub. Barzagli looks good, but I'm afraid he might be like Legrotaglie moving to Juve. I'm still a fan of his though.
 
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Problem withe Deco is that I'm not sure he'd want to be a sub. Barzagli looks good, but I'm afraid he might be like Legrotaglie moving to Juve. I'm still a fan of his though.

about deco that's true, but maybe a "good" contract could persuade him.
about barzagli, believe me mate, there's a huge difference between him and legrottaglie.

legrottaglie was just a decent defender, who had a good year at chievo. never understood why juve bought him. u can't buy a cb, just coz he had one good year.
barzagli is universally recognized as a phenomenal player since he was 19, and he's still improving himself. his coolness and timing are just amazing. he really reminds me the young nesta (lazio period). even if i see him playing each week, he still surprises me. whoever will buy him, will buy the greatest cb in europe for the next 8 years.
 
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Milanista, it must be tough for Gilardino, being booed by his own fans...
How is Ronaldo doing????
I agree with lo zio that Ronaldinho is not a player for Milan, personally i think he is past his prime and i also think he is not the most clever human being or player...

Palermo is my favourite team in Italy, Atalanta is my second one...
 
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rossi really impressed me! didn't expeceted he was so good.
huge personality, nice technique.
he scored 2 of the most beautiful goals i saw this year (1 yesterday, the other one in his first match for parma). it would be nice if parma could hold him.:)

about gila, milanista, i can understand him. He doesn't feel the right trust around him.
a couple of weeks ago i was in milan and went to san siro (first match vs. bayern). well, he wasn't doing bad at all, but nontheless milanisti booed him every time....... even before the match started, during the warming....i really can't understand....
moreover, buying ronaldo, didn't increased his self-confidence, of course.
he just needs time and trust, and that's not what is happening by now.

it's not an easy game to go from parma to milan...
in parma he was the only member of a 1-man-attack, with a nice first touch passer like morfeo behind him.
now he has 2 very different players behind him (seedorf and kakà), who usually prefere to hold the ball and try long shots.
i just hope carletto will manage to "rehabilitate" him. Afterall, talking about this (regenerating players) ancelotti is a great coach ;)
im so upset he chose italy over usa, i cant blame him though... but i just dont know if he will ever be the "man" for the azzuri...
 
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im so upset he chose italy over usa, i cant blame him though... but i just dont know if he will ever be the "man" for the azzuri...

i can understand u mate, if i were american i would be upset too.
of course it's too early to say what kind of player he will be, but if he'll keep doing like this.... :)
the thing that impressed me the most is his coolness. he's 20 but he plays like an experienced fwd. if u're a fwd, serie a is an extreme test for your skills. moreover he came in a club which is fighting for staying in serie a... an historic club who is fighting to stay in serie a..... very big pressure. nontheless when u see him it looks like he were playing with his friends in his backyard (this is maybe due to his previous experience in a big club like manu). i mean, it takes to be crazy to try what he tried last week, and the previous, and 4 weeks ago.
after that great goal, in his first match with parma, i thought "too bad, now he's burned. after a goal like that the pressure of media and fans will be huge". when u're so young too much hype can "kill" u. but here he is, after more than a month, still playing with the same coolness, always trying tricks and dribblings against italian defenders, like he were in his "backyard".
very very impressive :)

wise choice by ferguson... sending him to parma to play in a starting formation ;)

How is Ronaldo doing????

about ronaldo, he's doing great at milan (and that's a bad news for gila). 5 goals, 4 assists, very good performances, his physical conditions are getting better too. he's visibly thiner (still another miracle by milan lab :applause: )than 2 months ago.
but still he remains a 30 years old player. as i said before gila must be milan's future
 
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I feel Oliveira should have been given more chances in the past. I seriously see potential in him.

me too. afterall, he was "el pichichi" 2 years ago, if a do remember well.
But, if a have to be honest, i wouldn't have spent so much money for oliveira this summer.
i mean, 15 millions euros for a fwd who didn't play for 1 year for such a bad injury?
moreover oliveira clearely is a striker, not a sp (wich is what milan really needed to replace sheva).

pippo and gila are that kind of fwd who needs space around them, they need an attacker who starts his actions from the side, and this is not oliveira.

never understood why galliani didn't go for iaquinta or tavano this summer.... they were (very) cheaper and more useful for milan.
now milan has 3 very similar strikers and not even a sp (sometimes they placed kakà as sp, but this isn't his role... he can't use his great progression when he doesn't play as advanced midfielder, wich is his appropriate position on the pitch).
 
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We have made many bad moves in the past. I still regret not getting Suazo or Chevanton in the past. Cheaper and very effective. Pippo and Gila aren't players who can start their own action or shoot, like Sheva.

I think Milan tried too hard to sign a 'big name' player in too little time, so thats why we paid 15 million for Oliveira.
 
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Zambrotta to Milan :puke: . How dissapointing he has been as a person this season. I don't blame him for leaving juventus, didn't expect him to stay anyway, but the matter in which he left and now wanting a move to Milan... Not so neat of him..

About Barzagli, I have the exact same fear as Milanista; him turning out to be Legrottaglie v2. Barzagli has already proven not be just a one-season hit and does a decent enough job, but I definitively don't see a Nesta in him at all to be honest. Not that impressed by him.



im so upset he chose italy over usa, i cant blame him though... but i just dont know if he will ever be the "man" for the azzuri...
I wonder too, the 'support striker' position is highly competed in Italy.
 
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About Zambrotta Don, i think he wants milan cause Juve management said that they won't buy-back their old players (wise choice, imo).
zambrotta would like to come back in italy, and, for a player like him, there are just a few options: inter, milan or juve.
juve already said no;
inter has already maicon, grosso, zanetti and maxwell, so they don't need him.....

...so there'r only milan left ;)

about the comparison barzagli\legrottaglie, believe me guys, it's like comparing di michele to messi.

by now, he's among the 10 best cb in the world. honestly i can't see him still improving...... but that's the same thing i thought last year..... and 2 years ago....... and nontheless he still improved himself.

talking about timing and positioning, he's better than mexes, chivu, ferdinand, alex, cris, zapata, kaladze, marquez, vidic.....
at the moment just terry and nesta are still better than him.... but barzagli is just 25 years old and never had any serious injuries in his carrier ;)
his only "weak point" is his lack of international experience (and that's why i wrote among the 10 best cb and not among the 5 best cb), but afterall, that's a problem that can be easily solved :)
 
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Well, we'll see next year when Barzagli makes that move to Juve(;)), if he's the real deal or not. If he's Nesta or Legrottaglie (who is starting vs Genoa in 5 minutes #-o ) I think it's too early now to already call Barzagli a better player than Mexes, Chivu, Alex etcetera. As you pointed out yourself, he's missing the international exposure for that.
 
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Well, we'll see next year when Barzagli makes that move to Juve(;)), if he's the real deal or not. If he's Nesta or Legrottaglie (who is starting vs Genoa in 5 minutes #-o ) I think it's too early now to already call Barzagli a better player than Mexes, Chivu, Alex etcetera. As you pointed out yourself, he's missing the international exposure for that.

it's not early to call him a world class player mate. he's 25 and he outplayed some of the best fwd in the world in the past 5 years.... playing each year better than the previous.
did u saw him 2 weeks ago agaisnt ibrahimovic? he absolutely owned him..... and this is just talking about his last big performance. his only problem is that he played just with chievo and palermo. if he would have done the same things he did in the past 5 years in a club like roma, lazio, juve, milan or inter, now the whole world would recognize his class and consistence ;)
 
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Compare Barzagli to Gilardino, who has so far failed to deliver on the big stage. Barzagli also has to show what he can do for a big club, in the spotlights on the highest platform.

P.S. Ibrahimovic is shit.
 
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Compare Barzagli to Gilardino, who has so far failed to deliver on the big stage. Barzagli also has to show what he can do for a big club, in the spotlights on the highest platform.

P.S. Ibrahimovic is shit.

ok, then let's just say this: one year from now, we'll have a conversation about barzagli. i'm sure u'll use the same words i'm using today to describe him :mrgreen: .

usually i'm quite critic about central backs, i don't get excited so easily. the last defender i liked so much was alessandro nesta..... and i'm talking about nesta's best period (lazio) :)
 
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ok, then let's just say this: one year from now, we'll have a conversation about barzagli. i'm sure u'll use the same words i'm using today to describe him :mrgreen: .

usually i'm quite critic about central backs, i don't get excited so easily. the last defender i liked so much was alessandro nesta..... and i'm talking about nesta's best period (lazio) :)

Barzagli was really poor vs Parma yesterday.
 
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FORZA INTER! Back-to-back honours!

Don - Does it suprise you that Zambrotta is leaving for Milan? It's always the same in Italy. Look at Crespo, Vieira etc. No respect. You don't get that in England (apart from the odd occassion with Cashley Cole) :)
 
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Barzagli was really poor vs Parma yesterday.

unfortunately i didn't get the chance (time) to watch yesterday's match, so i can't talk about what barzagli did yesterday. :)

but anyway, it's hard to give a fair judgement to an individual performance, when the whole team is playing shit (especially for a cb).

in the last 3 months palermo had an unbelieevable collapse, due to many reasons (got some ideas about it), and i'm quite sure this situation won't change until next season... we didn't win not even a match in the past 11 weeks (last win was catania - palermo, since that match, both teams just stopped winning .... ironic, don't u think?) :(

we had an amazing advantage on the 3rd place.... now lazio reached us, milan reached us, empoli reached us..... soon will be fiorentina time (thanks God we're almost at the end of the season).

nontheless this very bad moment can't erase barzagli performances in the past 5 years ;)


anyway, congrats to Inter :applause:
great season, they were by far the strongest, this time the scudetto is totally deserved.
too bad they were unlucky in champions league :)
 
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unfortunately i didn't get the chance (time) to watch yesterday's match, so i can't talk about what barzagli did yesterday. :)

but anyway, it's hard to give a fair judgement to an individual performance, when the whole team is playing shit (especially for a cb).

in the last 3 months palermo had an unbelieevable collapse, due to many reasons (got some ideas about it), and i'm quite sure this situation won't change until next season... we didn't win not even a match in the past 11 weeks (last win was catania - palermo, since that match, both teams just stopped winning .... ironic, don't u think?) :(

we had an amazing advantage on the 3rd place.... now lazio reached us, milan reached us, empoli reached us..... soon will be fiorentina time (thanks God we're almost at the end of the season).

nontheless this very bad moment can't erase barzagli performances in the past 5 years ;)

I know, I like Barzagli myself too. Did you hear/read Zamparini's words though? He hopes Barzagli doesn't play and if he continues like this he can forget about a big transfer. Your club's president really is mad..
 
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Your club's president really is mad..

:lol: :lol:
u're right mate. sometimes (it happens quite often, if i have to be honest) he really looks mad.
he's probably the most impulsive person in the world... each time we loose he says that he'll fire Guidolin (it takes to be very patient to work for zampa).

i mean, it wouldn't be so "crazy" to fire him now... but he also said it when palermo lost his first match this season...... when palermo was leading serie a :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

nontheless i have to say that he's a nice person and he's very brillant as president.... i mean, afterall, it was him the one who chose foschi (one of the best team director in italy) and guidolin (who remains one of the best coach in italy......wich means ..one of the best coaches in the world ;) )....... and he also chose Cavani :applause: :applause: :applause: .


ah, almost forgot, he was the only one who realized that the 5th city in italy had a football team which was groping between serie b and serie c since the 70s. he spent a lot of money in palermo football club and brought us in serie a :)
 
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Mate! Zamparini just sacked Guidolin!

:lmao:

:(
i really feel for him, but it was a necessary decision. Guidolin is a great coach, but it's quite evident that he lost the control on his dressing room.

palermo doesn't win a match since catania match..... this says it all:roll:
 
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We have made many bad moves in the past. I still regret not getting Suazo or Chevanton in the past. Cheaper and very effective. Pippo and Gila aren't players who can start their own action or shoot, like Sheva.

I think Milan tried too hard to sign a 'big name' player in too little time, so thats why we paid 15 million for Oliveira.

Im new to this site im normally always in the Serie A thread over at pesfan im top poster;)
But i can tell i already like you, i totally agree with you how we did not take up the option of signing Suazo was a bad move for us.

Suazo has everything we need, fast skillfull a hitman. He can play up front on his own aswell as with strike partners.
I still hope we sign him in the new season he is still at a decent age i think 25 or 26:)
 
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Original link:http://www.goal.com/en-US/Articolo.a...enutoId=299623

Looking 'Inter' Calciopoli – Justice For Juve

It's been a long season for those lounging in Soccer's own personal purgatory. Many of us are still awaiting answers and justifications yet to be presented regarding perhaps the biggest soccer scandal in Italian history.

The question on many minds now has switched from who is guilty to a salient point: was cheating even really the scandal? Goal.com reader and Juventus fan Andrea Casula digs deep into the dirt to pull up a truth that is leaving many wriggling in their seats as he examines the role of Inter and shows that it isn’t just a black-and-white issue…

It's been nearly 12 months since the first headlines hit Italy's most prominent pink sports paper regarding Juventus, Milan, Lazio, Fiorentina, Inter (yes Inter) and the "cupola" that controlled Italian soccer's top flight. We all know what happened, though some are significantly more confused than others. We all know the result as well.

Few, however, know the why or the who behind them. It is with this in mind that I write. There is much that the public has been kept in the dark about and only through archives of articles nearly a year deep does the "cupola" finally reveal its ugly face. There are things we weren't supposed to find out, but passion and perseverance prevailed.

It is imperative that all be brought up to speed regarding this now shameful event. First we should identify key characters and clarify their roles in "Calciopoli". I don't intend to refresh anyone's memory as to who Moggi and Galliani are because these are now household names in any household that knows football.

Instead I'd rather identify the men behind the men – those shady denizens who wheel and deal backstage where the public aren’t welcome at all. The characters behind "Calciopoli" belong to three distinct groups, so let’s begin with a look into the extent of their mainly unseen influence.

The first group is Telecom Italia, Italy's prominent land phone line/Internet service provider which also owns TIM, its cellular counterpart advertised by Ronaldo Fenômeno. This company is chaired by a certain Mr. Tronchetti Provera.

Tronchetti is a lifelong Inter fan and a significant Inter shareholder. He and Telecom Italia are among Inter's most notable investors. As a matter of fact, Tronchetti's tyre company has had its name proudly displayed on Inter's jersey for decades (Pirelli).

The second group pertains to the media. Here far too many stakeholders and writers are involved therefore it is best to group them by media affiliation. Newspapers like Corriere dello Sport, Contro Campo, Messagero, and la Gazzetta dello Sport, helped spread the "news" to the
public regarding all the "facts" and hearsay that plagued last summer's scandal.

La Gazzetta dello Sport in particular (which has been sardonically nicknamed "La Gazzetta dell'Inter" in Italy, although evidently not by many Nerazzurri fans) is actually very heavily subsidized by…the Moratti family.

This takes us to Group three - Inter. Internzionale FC and its delegates, owned and operated by the Moratti family, have a wide network of affiliates. Their links with the Tronchetti communications dynasty and their massive investments in both print and TV media

(Telenova), allowed the Morattis to orchestrate what seems like a near-political coup over the course of two years.

How? Massimo Moratti convinced his long time investor to illegally record Telecom/TIM phone calls and hand them over to him. These recordings included people from rival delegates to referees, from Inter players to Inter delegates – over 100,000 recordings in all.

The Inter management intended to present these recordings to investigators and start a case against their rivals. These recordings were presented to magistrates in Turin, Rome, and Naples, to no avail.

All three magistrates responded to the recordings by indicating that no wrong doing was found and all accusations died on the vine. Moratti's contingency plan was much more sinister. The recordings were to be handed over (in pieces) to the elements of the press that Inter had an investment in.

The result was a media frenzy which forced the FIGC to launch an investigation and suspend many of its delegates (now mostly reinstated), prompting only those not suspended (due to the fact that they were not implicated) to assume complete control of the investigation.

This manoeuvre brought Guido Rossi into the picture. Being among the few not implicated on the recordings, Guido became the commissioner of the investigation who not only controlled the proceedings but hand picked the "jury".

Guido selected his colleagues and managed to conclude a year long sport tribunal in a mere three weeks. Of course he neglected to mention while at the helm of the FIGC, that he too is a major investor in Inter FC and also a former Inter delegate who proudly sat at Massimo Moratti's side during games just seasons ago.

The "investigation" brought forth much material. We all remember the Maseratti that was to be given as a gift for favours from Juventus (no identification number, model number, recipient, or even colour of the car was ever made evident). We remember the non-stop phone calls where no result was ever decided.

We remember the Italian Revenue Agency (Guardia della Finanza) entering Juventus headquarters and the home of Fabio Cannavaro looking for proof of illegal fund transfers. They found nothing – of course.

Do we all remember the phone conversations found where the late Giacinto Facchetti (then Inter General Director) requested specific referees from both Pairetto and Bergamo (referee designators)? In case some forgot, in a Sky interview Bergamo openly admitted that no delegate called him more than Facchetti.

In fact, Facchetti even dined in Bergamo's home on a number of occasions. We also found out (by accident) that Inter falsified passports to maintain the illegal status of foreign players (never further investigated), we also found out that Inter participated in fraudulent accounting practices (also never further investigated). In the end these details were never selected by Rossi as he deemed them to be "immaterial".

Less than a month later Inter had a Scudetto. Somehow Inter had the title two days before the investigation was over. When it was over, everyone but Inter got penalized. The most severe was Juventus' punishment. In the end the only proven fixed match was a Parma match that helped Fiorentina survive Serie A.

Even the Viola however remained in Serie A. A few appeals took place which reduced the punishments but in the end Inter had a title and a half. Not only were they declared champions of Italy (having come in 3rd) but all potential threats were crippled first in the marketplace.

When Fiorentina lost out on the Champions League – and 22.5 million Euros – and Milan had to forego major trades and purchases in addition to their point deductions rendering them less competitive the game was changed.

Inter experienced a near market monopoly stealing Vieira and Ibra for peanuts and were the last team standing who could purchase Fabio Grosso (the agreement came as the first headlines about the scandal hit the press).

Take "Calciopoli" away from the equation and Inter would have likely been where they always were, without Ibra, Vieira, and behind their rivals. Though they may have won, we'll never know.

After Guido Rossi's speedy demotion of Juventus and prompt coronation of his former employers, Tronchetti decided to thank him for their sudden increase in earnings per share by appointing Guido Vice President of Telecom Italia.

FIGC finally came to their senses and recognized (only too late) that there may be a conflict of interest and formally asked Guido to step down as commissioner.

Since the verdicts (which saw Juve lose 250 million Euros in addition to their Serie B punishment) the new Juventus delegates attempted an appeal at the Lazio Regional Tribunal (TAR) but were blackmailed into dropping the appeal.

FIGC threatened to freeze all Italian competition (including Azzurri duties) should the appeal take place. The freeze would have kept the national side from qualifying for Euro 2008. As a result Juve dropped the appeal and all seemed lost.

One judge (who listened to one appeal after the Rossi verdict) by the name of Cesare Ruperto of the CAF declared that the 2004/2005 season was legit. Sig. Serio of the Court of Appeal also said that no match fixing outside of the Lecce-Parma match (in favour of Fiorentina) had occurred.

He then went on to claim that the sentencing was due solely to mass media frenzy and conflict of interests. Guido Rossi himself admitted no foul play after failing to prove that Juventus, Lazio and Milan had cheated but he insisted that the teams found themselves in favorable positions and so maintained the punishments.

The CAF under Ruperto managed to reduce the sentences (but couldn't reverse them) and added that the season was subject to no wrong doing. He insisted that no Moggi system existed and that it was the invention of a little pink newspaper (pg 74 of the CAF declaration).

Ruperto went on to say that no game (aside from one assisting Fiorentina) was altered and that no system of bookings existed either, allegedly ensuring that key players were suspended prior to Juve matches (Pg 83). According to the 100-plus page declaration by the CAF, all these accusations were fabricated and exploited.

Recently "Calciopoli 2" has hit the tabloids in Italy but has generated little steam. Basically the investigators in Naples have come forward indicating that Juventus' management used to use Foreign Service providers (Swiss SIM Cards) to conduct all the illegal conversations.

Since the investigators couldn't possibly record Swiss calls, no incriminating conversations actually exist. The question on many minds now is, if all the "incriminating" calls took place on Swiss cards that could not be monitored then what was on the 100,000 Telecom/TIM calls that could possibly justify demotion to Serie B and the title going to another team?

We are also curious as to how Moratti, Tronchetti, and the media could possibly get away with violating a constitutional right to privacy by illegally recording calls and then have them published. These entities could potentially be facing charges of invasion of privacy, defamation of character, fraudulent accounting, insider trading, and identity falsification.

To add to the already overflowing pot of offences, referee De Sanctis has come forward revealing that the late Giacinto Facchetti would call him regularly prior to matches. Many of his requests apparently were not strictly illegal.

Nevertheless, on more than a few occasions, according to De Sanctis' televised interview on Antenna 3, De Sanctis had to refuse Giaccinto's requests because of their unsportsmanlike nature and manipulative implications.

This has angered the Inter faithful who claim De Sanctis is accusing a deceased General Director because he can no longer defend himself. The truth is he never had to defend himself. His recorded phone conversations were discarded as evidence by Commissioner Rossi and as a result no one in the Inter camp was ever investigated.

This occurred while Facchetti was very much alive. This revelation came as no shock since other referees and referee designers have coinciding stories. It is a year-old accusation backed by recorded phone calls that has mysteriously gone ignored.

As a result many fan-based demonstrations from Turin to Naples have taken place and organizations have been created to fight on Juventus' behalf. One association in Italy called "Giu le Mani Dalla Juve" (Hands Off Juve) has finally broken through to the new FIGC management.

The Federcalcio headed by Giancarlo Abete agreed to consider the possibility of reopening the now year-old case. His decision depends on public interest and therefore I encourage all fans who want to see actual justice served to please leave a comment in the comments box below.

Now Juve fans who won’t stand for more are finally being heard. If this case is reopened through Giancarlo Abete Juve could regain the Scudetti they fought so hard for. In addition, all other affected teams would also benefit from financial restitution if the case is reopened.

I would like to take this opportunity to remind readers that last year's punished squads produced 12 World Cup Champions, 15 World Cup Finalists, and UEFA honours for best goalkeeper, best defender, and best all-around player. Later even FIFA recognized Fabio Cannavaro as Player of the Year. All awards were attributed to their performances in Serie A as well as Germany '06.

So, do these players sound like they need referee assistance? The answer is self-evident – no. Sceptics may still be convinced that Juventus cheated to be successful, but I urge all that all real football fans weigh up the real evidence that rarely makes the biased Italian media.

If we are talking about doing justice we can’t stop short of our target, but this target has been warped by unbalanced information. Justice should be blind to influences, but we can see that the powers that be have chosen their scapegoats and given pardons with no real regard for an overall truth.

Andrea Casula

Andrea Casula would like to forward suitable responses to Giancarlo Abete through "Giu le Mani Dalla Juve" on behalf of Juventus' English-speaking fan base.

This article represents the views of the writer and does not necessarily reflect any Goal.com position
 
Re: Serie A Thread (Inter crowned champions)

No matter how much Inter win this season, people will not respect them as much as they'd want. Even most of the people I know in Italy joke around about this year's Scudetto... even Inter fans I know. On Italian TV they still compare Milan's CL performances to Inter's whole season..... says a lot.
 
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