PES2008 PS2 version is the lost game / video thread

[geeeeee]

I'm playing on the hardest level. For example, if the goalkeeper does not run towards me, the opponent defender will take the ball from me anyway. However, even a non-dangerous position can be a goal because the goalkeeper is running. I mostly play classic laziale. I reduced player speeds and passing speeds for better and more difficult gameplay. In addition, I increased mentality and teamwork.

I was just looking at some of my highlights from ML on youtube and yes the goalkeeper does come out when he needs to and sometimes I score sometimes I don’t. But yes he comes out when i expect him to come out. i don’t see the non-dangerous times when he comes out like you mentioned. But then again I only play with my option file. Maybe it is different on Laziele’s one.

 

[Xkapt]

I was just looking at some of my highlights from ML on youtube and yes the goalkeeper does come out when he needs to and sometimes I score sometimes I don’t. But yes he comes out when i expect him to come out. i don’t see the non-dangerous times when he comes out like you mentioned. But then again I only play with my option file. Maybe it is different on Laziele’s one.

Yes, it can. Do you think if I increase the defense score of the goalkeepers, will the chance of success against forwards running in 1-1 positions increase?

 

[geeeeee]

Yes, it can. Do you think if I increase the defense score of the goalkeepers, will the chance of success against forwards running in 1-1 positions increase?

I was just checking the guide and i can only see 1 on 1 special ability making goalkeepers better. I thought that the Aggression stat might affect it but i don’t think it does.

I think it is a case of trial and error, maybe increase Response too.

It’s funny how I don’t find it an issue at all. Do you have any videos to show this happening?

 

[Xkapt]

Thanks I will try. I don't have a video at the moment, but if I come across it in the coming days, I can share it.

 

[geeeeee]

Thanks I will try. I don't have a video at the moment, but if I come across it in the coming days, I can share it.

That would be good if you can. It’s funny because I find this game so challenging but some say it is too easy it dribble past players and score. I guess we all play differently.

 

[Xkapt]

Artificial intelligence in PES 2008 is absolutely perfect. I even asked myself why pes 6 is so popular when there is pes 2008.I was surprised when the number of goals I dribble passed at the goalkeeper increased. Even though it is old and has many shortcomings in the player ratings and master league, my GOAT will always be WE7.

 

[Xkapt]

That would be good if you can. It’s funny because I find this game so challenging but some say it is too easy it dribble past players and score. I guess we all play differently.

If the goalkeeper did not run so fast at the 50th second, the opponent stopper would have already taken the ball or disturbed it. The goalkeeper does not make a balanced run.

 

[geeeeee]

If the goalkeeper did not run so fast at the 50th second, the opponent stopper would have already taken the ball or disturbed it. The goalkeeper does not make a balanced run.

But that game is human vs human, my brother brought the GK out

 

[reinelt97]

@geeeeee @Xkapt I have to agree on the 'keepers in PES 2008. Good game but the 'keepers are often awful. Way too many rebound goals and fluffed saves, as seen in Geeeeee's latest vid.

 

[geeeeee]

@geeeeee @Xkapt I have to agree on the 'keepers in PES 2008. Good game but the 'keepers are often awful. Way too many rebound goals and fluffed saves, as seen in Geeeeee's latest vid.

Sorry I have to completely disagree with you there. I think they are very realistic, yes they make mistakes (depending on stats) but they are also very good. Every time the keeper makes a good save I always think about the criticism that they get, but admittedly I used to think the same years ago when the game first came out that was why I stayed with PES5 for so long.

It could be though because of the stat adjustments that I make to slow it down. Maybe it makes it easier for the keepers to save shots. As I have mentioned before if it was not for the slower paced gameplay after my stat adjustments, I would not even play the game because at vanilla it is too super duper fast and unrealistic.

 

[geeeeee]

Here is the next match, no. 88 Stoke (bro) v Celtic (me)...



And just after I made the statement above about the goalkeepers also being very good, this match has a keeper who is not too good

 

[Heisenberg]

Hello Group! Happy New Year to everyone!
I leave you my last adventure in Pes 2008 with a Classic Eurocup that I have enjoyed very much.
At the beginning of the video you can see how hard it was to get past the group stage, with two defeats against Germany and Poland, and in the third match I was able to qualify thanks to goal difference.
In the quarter-finals I crushed Italy 5-0 and what happened next you can see in the video.
A pleasure to play with the Hungarian legends, Wonderful team

 

[Heisenberg]

I'm playing on the hardest level. For example, if the goalkeeper does not run towards me, the opponent defender will take the ball from me anyway. However, even a non-dangerous position can be a goal because the goalkeeper is running. I mostly play classic laziale. I reduced player speeds and passing speeds for better and more difficult gameplay. In addition, I increased mentality and teamwork.

Classic Laziale has very high stats in general, most of them I got from pesmitidelcalcio, personally I got used to playing with that pace and demand, but I understand that I can't please everyone.
The issue of goalkeepers' rebounds is annoying, but what irritates me more is the feeling that the game will score a goal from a corner whenever it feels like it.

 

[Fenomeno9]

I have not finished it completely as some teams still need kits and faces edited but since the work is on hold and I don't know when I continue to edit it, I shared the current version of my option file that has all teams from World and European Cup tournaments between 1982 and 2000 as well as a few bonus teams like Netherlands 1982, Yugoslavia and Italy 1992, Ghana 1994 and others. 1982 and 1984 are edited 100 % including player appearances. Kits should be finished for all except about half of WC 1998 and some bonus teams. Player appearances in many teams still need to be done. I copied many player appearances from Laziale classic OF as they are very well made.

For more information and other option files for PES 2008 PS2 see also my thread: https://evoweb.uk/threads/pes-2008-option-files-fenomeno9.95430/

 

[Xkapt]

Classic Laziale has very high stats in general, most of them I got from pesmitidelcalcio, personally I got used to playing with that pace and demand, but I understand that I can't please everyone.
The issue of goalkeepers' rebounds is annoying, but what irritates me more is the feeling that the game will score a goal from a corner whenever it feels like it.

I'm not sure about the distinction between strong and weak teams either. For example, Schalke's hexagon is bigger than most teams. Most teams have the same hexagon.

 

[NeoRetro]

Hexagon teams get higher when only one player is a beast. Even if the rest of the team is average or bad.
A bigger Hexa doesn't means that on a full season, the team is stronger.

For example you have 4 beast in Speed on one team : if you keep the best Speedster and remove the 3 others the Hexagon will not change.

 

[Juventino32]

I personally feel that if both games are on “top player” then winning eleven 2008 is easier.
I feel if PES2008 is on “top player” and WE2008 is on “superstar” they are the same level of difficulty.

So in reality it’s just that WE2008 has one lower level of easiness. Since PES 2008 doesn’t have the option for “superstar”

To me, 6th Star difficulty in WE 2008 is more easy than PES 2008 max level.
And - again to me - it's really not a placebo effect. The score tables speak for themselves (with same teams, ...).

 

[PES4eva]

To me, 6th Star difficulty in WE 2008 is more easy than PES 2008 max level.
And - again to me - it's really not a placebo effect. The score tables speak for themselves (with same teams, ...).

That could be coincidence though. There's no possible way any human being can play at exactly the same level having the exact level of reflexes and level of thinking for every single match they play. So it's difficult to gage. It may have felt easier because the scripting was set that that way when you start a match. If you played the same team using the same team, same starting lineup, same formation etc 100 times you wouldn't get the same outcome every time. Variables like scripting, how the CPU lines up, what players they start with, what form they're in, how attacking or defensive they are for that particular game all play a role.
I mean there was a point where you were adamant WE2008 was the superior game too at one point. Personally I've noticed that one day I think a certain version of PES/WE is amazing then after burn out I think it's not as good as another version. Though I think we can agree that both WE2008 and PES2008 on PS2 are extremely fun games and that's all that really matters! 😄