Man you are so badass !!! I couldn't find anything on the internet to help me until somebody mentioned your post... Now I can enjoy PES 3-6 without any stuttering or problems in Windows 10. Thank you !!! You're the boss....
That is interesting as I have no stuttering with low or high graphics, with or without patches using my method either with 1920x1080p internal resolution and dx resolution in kload.cfg with high graphics, very high (max) textures in loadcfg.exe. Lower graphics should provide more stable frametimes so it's weird that you are getting the opposite result.
could it be because my monitor refresh rate is over 60 hz still even after applying that CRU monitor fix it's 60,3 Hz and I have no option for SUper Res in my GPU Driver Settings I have integrated APU it has the same power as a gt 1030
Yeah, not all Nvidia and AMD GPUs have that option. It's a pity that you couldn't achieve pure 60hz. Try manually editing the values in CRU instead of using LCD Standard or something like that, It is possible to achieve 60.0Hz. If you don't want to do that, the only option that you can try is to use 120hz if you can because than the frame is scanned twice as fast on the monitor instead which means reduced input lag while retaining the smoothness of frame distribution 99% of the time. The only thing is that there are slightly more micro stutters from time to time when using 120hz with 60fps game because of inconsistent game frame pacing, which is not pronounced when using 60hz 60fps.
I did put manual 60 Hz ... faulty monitor
Yes. Gameplay speed alters max fps in game, so that is expected.
You're welcome
I usually only change these 2 lines:
Which should already be that way in that archive, don't remember -- anyway, putting the first one to true also forces Vsync, and putting the second to false removes the dgVoodoo watermark on your screen
- ForceVerticalSync = true
- dgVoodooWatermark = false
In my case DGVoodoo does nothing in Windows 10 21h2. It's really hard to make this game work the same way for everyone. I wish that Konami developers implemented some Vsync toggle and/or FPS limiter so we can have the better control in that aspect. But that is a game from 2005 so yeah.
I really don't know what the real problem was that made those four games stutter for me, but in the end as you mentioned could be something different depending on the type of hardware configuration in every PC, so in my case worked at 100% the DGVoodoo thing (I have the last update of Win10). Also I've noticed that mostly if one of those four games stutter the other three games have also that problem, and if you manage to solve it, can be applied the same method in all those four games.
Thank you for all the information. If it helps for your guide in my case I have a new gen GeForce graphic card, I use 60HZ as refresh rate and 1440p. Nothing worked in settings or configurations, and the only thing that made real miracles are those files that I've pointed out. I can't go deep into it because I'm not that experienced when I investigate this stuff but those files improve something on all classic games from PES 3 to 6 and I can play them clean now at 1440p on win 10 without stuttering... Thanks again for all your effort and precious guide, it's pretty nice to have somebody that could solve problems like this because most of us don't have a clue on how to make those classics function as intended...
DGVoodoo 2, when it works, forces it's own implementation of Vsync which should provide gameplay with no stutters. It's also a DX wrapper itself, the difference is that their DX Wrapper is DX11 while DX Wrapper from Boris Vorontsov is DX9 (which is used in my guide). There is also a difference in implemention and developers. The problem is it's compatibility. It's config files are not optimized for this game & it doesn't work for all configurations while DX9 wrapper does. Also a conversion from DX8 to DX 11 is much harder & can cause issues if not implemented perfectly. Conversion from DX8 to DX9 is much less trouble worthy as they are 2 very similar APIs. FastSync method probably didn't worked for Nvidia, hence you still got stutters. There is a override Vsync toggle for Nvidia, which I would like to be tested if it works with DX9 Wrapper because if it works, than it's a jackpot.
Interesting , so this file that emulates it's actually a wrapper from DX11 to DX8. In my case the DX9 one didn't worked fully, just slightly changed the performance, and I also experienced some graphical problems in the menu where the graphic sound bar appears with full lines and other minor glitches like that. Normally if it works perfectly with this DX11 wrapper that I use, I can have problems with my graphic card or pc later? Or just with the game? Sorry that I ask but what do you mean by issues? If there is an option to work better by another more direct method just let me know..plzzz
Thank you...DX8 to DX11*. Interesting, I had no glitches like that in multiple AMD configurations. I will have to test it more. It's honestly weird that it does that. Maybe it could be patch related. Who khows. No, you shouldn't have PC problems with it, it's safe. It doesn't affect hardware components at all. It affects game only. Issues like no Vsync applied, fps drop duo to bad conversion etc. It's highly technical stuff so please just read this below.Interesting , so this file that emulates it's actually a wrapper from DX11 to DX8. In my case the DX9 one didn't worked fully, just slightly changed the performance, and I also experienced some graphical problems in the menu where the graphic sound bar appears with full lines and other minor glitches like that. Normally if it works perfectly with this DX11 wrapper that I use, I can have problems with my graphic card or pc later? Or just with the game? Sorry that I ask but what do you mean by issues? If there is an option to work better by another more direct method just let me know..plzzz
Btw, that's not hardware issue, that's game texture issue probably which happened during conversion. So don't be scared. I'm glad that it works. This is a lot of information overload, even for me, so please, just take your seats & enjoy PESYes it's very weird that I got those graphical problems with the DX9 wrapper, and could be because of the patches. Didn't tried it on the vanilla versions, and that could work as you mentioned because the resolution will be way lower than 1440p, because in that way I'll not have kitserver to change the resolution. Thank god that the DX11 to DX8 wrapper don't cause hardware issues because I enjoy it like it is now without any glitch or problem, it's smoother than ever at 1440p. I'm pretty sure that you'll find out what it cause to work well on a PC configuration like mine because you have already some experience into it... Man you are like Ronaldinho of configurations, you trick every new PC to make those classics work on those systems like a boss...
dxgi.syncInterval = 1
d3d9.presentInterval = 1C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /c start "" /high /Affinity 5 "C:\Program Files (x86)\KONAMI\Pro Evolution Soccer 6\pes6.exe"
This will work the same with PES 5.
I just tried this method to test it and here are the results:A WORKING FIX FOR EVERYONE BELOW
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Okay guys, I'll be very brief. For people who can't force vsync via their drivers, or get stutters, etc, here's a very easy and quick to apply solution, in a couple of steps:
1. Grab a dx8 to dx9 wrapper such as this (any would work) - http://enbdev.com/convertor_dx8_dx9_v0036.htm
2. Download the latest release and config files of DXVK from here - https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk
3. Inside the PES directory where the executable is found, place the 32-bit versions of dxgi.dll and d3d9.dll from DXVK, and the d3d8.dll from the DirectX8 to 9 wrapper. Add the dxvk.conf file. It should look like this:
As seen, kitserver can be used with it and doesn't get affected at all.
4. Set/uncomment these options in dxvk.conf and save the changed configuration file:
Code:dxgi.tearFree = True d3d9.tearFree = True
Optionally, you can set Administrative permissions on the .EXE, set priority to high, and isolate two cores like this, in the Shortcut's Target:
where the path is your game's installation directory. Make sure you tick "Run this program as an administrator" in the Compatibility tab, when saving the updated shortcut.Code:C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /c start "" /high /Affinity 5 "C:\Program Files (x86)\KONAMI\Pro Evolution Soccer 6\pes6.exe"
Note that initially, while the shader cache is getting built for the various animations in-game, you will get micro-stutters. That will stop after a couple of minutes. This is the way DXVK works.
Enjoy your tear-free, stutter-free Pro Evo, just as if you were playing it in 2006.
All kudos go to DXVK's dev team.
Try to add this into dxvk.conf:
# Enables a frame rate limiter, unless the game is already
# limited to the same refresh rate by vertical synchronization.
#
# Supported values : Any non-negative integer
dxgi.maxFrameRate = 60
d3d9.maxFrameRate = 60Yes, just edit an existing shortcut. Also, since Windows' recent updates, those settings won't be applied if executed as admin (weirdly enough), so just edit your shortcut target and do NOT run as an administrator.