I was hoping those shots would hint at least to a "evening" option, 'cause I'm sick of only midday and night matches. Guess I have to lose any hope, since Konami would've advertised that as groundbreaking!
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Madmac79
International
- 11 September 2006
Wait a sec.. so, we'll not even be able to choose an hour of the day and play with that "fixed" light? SO no afternoon, no different shadows for different hours even if not dynamic? Not even that?
I hope I misunderstood..
Reading a lot of complains here about youtubers negatively influencing konami gameplay choices makes me think maybe we should spam their comments with constructive criticism on how the game really needs to be and why the way they view it is wrong? I mean voice the opinions we voice here anyway, but get the point across to the mainstream audience and get noticed in that youtube community somehow? At the very least it may spur a discussion there and change a few minds.
Ameppe
International
- 23 December 2007
- SSC Napoli
Well, these leagues can't be added with just a little patch. They are a big addition to the database, but for them they are important mostly because they attract players of that country.
Elanimator
Championship
- 5 November 2017
When they shorten a 90 minutes match to 5 minutes, does the gameplay move like you're playing the game in 8x speed?
Just like the gameplay, dynamic lighting doesn't necessarily need to be in sync with the match time.
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Well they did say that "dynamic lighting" will pretty much be the same thing as "dynamic" weather, last year. I am also still hoping, even with the shitty way it's being implemented, that we'll get a third option for time of kick-off.
Lons
AMIGA 1200 HARDCORE FAN!
- 15 December 2007
I expect SERIA A and Turkey league. It would be HUGE news.
Dennis_87
Physics n' Animations Fan
- 27 September 2017
No offence but i think that one of the worst and meaningless things that you can do with your free time is to go to some fucking arcady loving youtuber's account and try to convice him for how the game should be lol.
dekart
Championship
- 6 February 2018
- Zorza Tempo Pacanów
Okey so we should wait
gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
Yep late afternoon time would add much more immersion and even fill in the gap sort of of the few stadiums.
Chuny
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- 11 December 2007
Yup, indeed. At least, as far as I know HAVOK was utilized in Cloth Physics (which were pretty dope in 2014 and petty much non existent afterwards).
Asim said that you couldn't set a specific time of day.
Educated guess: Day - Day/Afternoon - Afternoon/Night - Night. I think we'll have these 4 options to select.
I would put my money on that.
PRO_TOO
Team Heffernan
@Chuny i see it the same. put my money on it too! 4-6 options, but fixed ones (change at half time)!
btw: check you sig! its called "MSI Enthusiastic/Enthusiast Gaming Intel Z170 M7"! you have to look good here, my friend!
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TTB with some PES2019 gameplay analysis:
https://twitter.com/_TheTrueBrits/status/1023172590586802178
btw: check you sig! its called "MSI Enthusiastic/Enthusiast Gaming Intel Z170 M7"! you have to look good here, my friend!
edit:
TTB with some PES2019 gameplay analysis:
https://twitter.com/_TheTrueBrits/status/1023172590586802178
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vihn78
League 1
If it is true, it is really sad. Why they don't understand that the gamers lose interest in BAL exactly cause there is no improvement from ages? All other sport games include a very deep career mode where you can play as a single player and follow his Whole career, but no, they listen an analyst that probably did check only BAL and didnt care about other careers in sport games...
Chuny
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- 11 December 2007
@Chuny i see it the same. put my money on it too! 4-6 options, but fixed ones (change at half time)!
btw: check you sig! its called "MSI Enthusiastic/Enthusiast Gaming Intel Z170 M7"! you have to look good here, my friend!
edit:
TTB with some PES2019 gameplay analysis:
https://twitter.com/_TheTrueBrits/status/1023172590586802178
LOL
I renew my enthusiasm every year, and every I'm let down by Konami AND EA, mate. I don't know what to do anymore.
When I was 10, I used to think by the time I was 30 football games would be like, impossible to tell the difference between reality and the game. And here I am... 30 years old, and we're still trying to figure out if we're going to have fouls this year, and if perfect strung first time passes will still be the order of the day or we might actually have some human-like accuracy error.
goalgerd
File Maker
new video
Chuny
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- 11 December 2007
PRO_TOO
Team Heffernan
i have that going for 8 years longer than you, so...
but i was the same. super hyper realistic soccer that looks like real stuff from tv. maybe with VR googles, electronic keeper gloves, a real ball with technic inside on a string, and such...
man, how we were wrong. but as i look back, my expactations have changed since then (as i grew older and perspective changed). i dont need it to look super real these days, just convincing enough. what i still was hoping for, even beeing in my late 30s, a evolution in gameplay. the last 10 years hadnt had that huge step forward, imo. sure it evolves here and there a little bit, but nothing major! AI, this could be the next step. AI behaviour or routines in gaming overall! maybe we there in the future (enterprise holo deck style)!
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vialli82
International
- 4 September 2005
- Juventus
Not important for some here, but i totally dislike the "old-fashionned golden" scoreboard, and whatever else.
Same as the PES 2017 and PES 2019 official ball (black/golden/white)... Seriously, does that color is a reference for whatever else in actual football except some shirt font? Wtf they've got with that middle-aged color?
I know it sounds like "legend", but come on, it looks like really unnatural.
Same as the PES 2017 and PES 2019 official ball (black/golden/white)... Seriously, does that color is a reference for whatever else in actual football except some shirt font? Wtf they've got with that middle-aged color?
I know it sounds like "legend", but come on, it looks like really unnatural.
Chuny
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- 11 December 2007
fantomas23
League 1
- 26 July 2003
not only did the cpu not change shape but left deep defensive line advance instruction on till full time after inter got a player sent off. smh. it needs to be smarter and react accordingly like in real life. if not wheres the challenge? are we going to have the cpu play a 4-5-1 from kick off if it is 3-0 down after first leg in a knockout round?
Lons
AMIGA 1200 HARDCORE FAN!
- 15 December 2007
UI looks terrible!
Considering the style of gameplay shown at the Pes Finals over the past 4yrs, Konami obviously like what they are seeing.
This is the biggest event to showcase Pes' gameplay worldwide. The hyper assisted, pingpong, every goal is the same, non tactical, Barca vs Barca stuff is what they are aiming for. If it wasn't they'd have attempted to change things.
Because very little has changed, we can only assume that it's a big thumbs up from Konami.
They've no interest in moving back towards the SIM direction of PES 14.
I really believe that Konami think that because of how poor PES 14 did with its audience that it was all about people rejecting SIM gameplay. Not that the game was the most unfinished, broken product in the history of PES.
I could be wrong lol, maybe they realised after one iteration of a SIM game that to keep going down that development route would be too much of an undertaking. Hence the dramatic shift to full arcade from '16 onwards.
Whatever the reason, this '16-'18 gameplay is here to stay for the foreseeable future. The only hope for fans of a more SIM game will be on offline gameplay options. The more options available to reintroduce the countless things Forums like this want. Tbh if it ever does come close to happening it'll take many years to implement incremental changes. They've shown their neglect for offline, and the old skool Pes players for a while now.
As it is, I'm trying not to think in terms of SIM or arcade too much. It's got to the point for me were I just want to get some of that old 'Pes feeling' back regardless of gameplay styles. All the emotions and challenges the game used to offer was vast. Now, my PES 'emotion' just strafes between dull and frustration.
This is the biggest event to showcase Pes' gameplay worldwide. The hyper assisted, pingpong, every goal is the same, non tactical, Barca vs Barca stuff is what they are aiming for. If it wasn't they'd have attempted to change things.
Because very little has changed, we can only assume that it's a big thumbs up from Konami.
They've no interest in moving back towards the SIM direction of PES 14.
I really believe that Konami think that because of how poor PES 14 did with its audience that it was all about people rejecting SIM gameplay. Not that the game was the most unfinished, broken product in the history of PES.
I could be wrong lol, maybe they realised after one iteration of a SIM game that to keep going down that development route would be too much of an undertaking. Hence the dramatic shift to full arcade from '16 onwards.
Whatever the reason, this '16-'18 gameplay is here to stay for the foreseeable future. The only hope for fans of a more SIM game will be on offline gameplay options. The more options available to reintroduce the countless things Forums like this want. Tbh if it ever does come close to happening it'll take many years to implement incremental changes. They've shown their neglect for offline, and the old skool Pes players for a while now.
As it is, I'm trying not to think in terms of SIM or arcade too much. It's got to the point for me were I just want to get some of that old 'Pes feeling' back regardless of gameplay styles. All the emotions and challenges the game used to offer was vast. Now, my PES 'emotion' just strafes between dull and frustration.
fantomas23
League 1
- 26 July 2003
im pretty was vialli is referring to the in-game graphics like scoreboard, pop ups like goal scorer, stats, teams. i agree with him. not only does the ui suck but the in game presentation too. look at this and compare it to pes 2015 & 2016. no sane person can say 2019's colours and style look better
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Chuny
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- 11 December 2007
Yeah, I'm talking about all of that. Menus, popups, etc.
On PC, we'll change that in no time. Have real scoreboards and stuff. But I really feel bad for the people on consoles.
Konami is a 'Mobile' gaming company now. It's been their focus for a few yrs. The UI reflects that. Maybe it's the only kind of designers they have left now.
Still, looks like stuff from the early days of mobile games
fantomas23
League 1
- 26 July 2003
only presentation element i like is this transition animation. and btw i give them kudos for getting rid of all the aqua blue from last year 
Chuny
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- 11 December 2007
I never understood why Konami don't try to get ESPN or FOX SPORTS or BEIN or whatever to sign some sort of partnership too. They may not be authorized to have the official EPL scoreboard, or LaLiga scoreboard, but they could probably create something similar and have real TV logos with some authentic branding from those broadcasters.
robbieryan
I dream of occasional fanzine mentions
But boy do i dislike the pes logo
gabe.paul.logan
Retired Footballer
@Chuny i see it the same. put my money on it too! 4-6 options, but fixed ones (change at half time)!
btw: check you sig! its called "MSI Enthusiastic/Enthusiast Gaming Intel Z170 M7"! you have to look good here, my friend!
edit:
TTB with some PES2019 gameplay analysis:
https://twitter.com/_TheTrueBrits/status/1023172590586802178
At 1:22 there is a stock photo on the stadium monitor showin the stadium in full daylight so maybe its indeed an afternoon match after all?
Nik
ARHS na goustaris!
Every single video from the new code is horrific, absolutely terrible... I lost every bit of interest towards the game.
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