PES 2019 Discussion Thread (PS4, XB1)

12 games in on my ML,TS at 87,this game is just a cheat machine.
Not only do the Cpu pull off whatever they feel like,but the cheating/scripting on my players are heavy as well(passing/reactions/positioning/defending) the worst is when my Def runs to intercept a pass ,and strays off a meter to let their striker go for goal
Happens more than once


I use to love playing Pes 6-17
I'm fucking done,can't enjoy this,it's awful,even on the ball in ML, complete rubbish.
I think people who know from being on this forum since -06,knows how much I use to love and stand up for this series,but it's no way I can defend this game and it's scripting,worst I've played,perhaps up there with 18 (better with patches though)
It has a lot of potential,but since the most loved mode is unplayable,then what's the point ?
Quick question,how many clean sheets does people have on a ML season?
I'm guessing not more than 1-3 ?
 
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rockstrongo said:
12 games in on my ML,TS at 87,this game is just a cheat machine.
Not only do the Cpu pull off whatever they feel like,but the cheating/scripting on my players are heavy as well(passing/reactions/positioning/defending) the worst is when my Def runs to intercept a pass ,and strays off a meter to let their striker go for goal
Happens more than once


I use to love playing Pes 6-17
I'm fucking done,can't enjoy this,it's awful,even on the ball in ML, complete rubbish.
I think people who know from being on this forum since -06,knows how much I use to love and stand up for this series,but it's no way I can defend this game and it's scripting,worst I've played,perhaps up there with 18 (better with patches though)
It has a lot of potential,but since the most loved mode is unplayable,then what's the point ?
Quick question,how many clean sheets does people have on a ML season?
I'm guessing not more than 1-3 ?
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Personally I have very rare clean sheet.I have constantly games with over3 goals,and I concede 1 goal for sure in every match no matter what,even if I would play against San Marino and achieve 7 goals I would concede one goal for sure.Furthermore I use it as a mini-exploit,in negotiations when I want to increase signing chances for defenders and Goalkeepers,I max out the Clean Sheet bonus as I know that they will never achieve it!!! :D :D :D
Now I am in my second season and I still concede one goal per match so the target is two goals when I want to ensure a win,one goal is not enough:P

I am just playing the first “cursed” cup match against Schalke,which is BS op this year just because KONAMI wanted to tease Dortmund (this is an other topic) and we are on extra time after a 2-2.I am taking a break right now.What I did I notice,as I am superior to them,both their goals were back to back response after their kickoff from my goals,1-1 from 1-0 and 2-2 from 2-1.In both goals they only used one chip through the middle pass with their CF who then played an one-two pass with the winger and tapped in my goalie all alone.The weird part is that my teams central axis was totally empty and both times it had only an isolated and misplaced CB to defend,despite the fact that my central axis should be overcrowded regularly cause I play 4-2-1-3 ,all out defense,conservative,containmentarea middle with 2 DMF ,an Anchorman and a destroyer, and advanced tactics deep defensive line.Despite all these the CPU attacked from kick off through my middle with all my players being unresponsive and misplaced except for my last CB who couldn’t catch up either way.
So yes I agree with @rockstrongo the “scripting” this year is extremely obvious.
 
slamsoze said:
So yes I agree with @rockstrongo the “scripting” this year is extremely obvious
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It is, and it pisses me off, even tho i have to say that i dont see much of the scripting in my second season.
In fact - i didnt "feel" much of it for a while now. But there is no doubt - its there and its spoiling the fun for a lot of people. There is no need for that. Pity that they have to introduce such a cheap shots...
 
Cheating is not only on ML. Theres is a helluva cheating on other modes too. Sometimes you play a good through pass to some player, you are sprinting to the ball path then suddently your player stops running or quickly make quick 90 degree turn, losing his advantage, then keeps running again.

I think I will get back to DS3 and take a time of this game. Im full of it. They f up the game with this latest patch imo. I cant score from outside the box no matter I try. Goalkeeper reactions are unnatural. They slide to the side and jump like Lebron James, covering all the goal area. On penalty kicks keepers dive outside the goal! Never saw this on real life! This shit chat that is better like this than bad goalkeepers dont work for me. Never have problems with goalkeepers on old PES before to be honest.

Adding the no momentum, no inertia of CPU defenders, I mean you just cant wrong foot them with a trick, no touch skill, shot or pass fake or super cancel, speed burst or stoping the ball. Inertia does not applied to CPU defenders; plus those uglies floaty animations, this game is all about filling a power bar to me.

Im sorry if Im salty. Was having so much fun before patch.

Merry Chrismas everyone.
 
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kamy100 said:
This game does so much right but in master league it is badly let down by scripting.

I am going well with Inter and I have now come to a game that the AI has decided that I am going to lose. It is away to Chievo, I the AI do some ridiculous things over the 5 times that I have played this game to try and win it. No matter what I do and I have tried everything from a new formation, new tactics, swopping out players each and everytime ridiculous things happen which always result in Chievo winning.

I am just about done with this game, every game has some form of scripting but most developers manage to hide it fairly well, but Konami have made no effort to do so (in Master league) it is a massive shame because there are big elements of the game I really like. Absolutely no point contacting them via twitter because it just gets ignored.
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i play ML too , a lot & i can tell you, that if you want to play this mode, you just have to accept this (ridiculus) type of cpu cheating in certain games.This is how ML games are made.There is almost nothing that you can do.Even if you play certain game 5-6 times you are probably going to loose almost all of them with & crazy things are about to happen.I know that it is very frastrating & it gets even worst in higher difficulties but in my opinion is that when its happening just forget it & move on to next game(s). It can last also for a streak of games if you are winning a lot lately, so that you can loose some points that you normaly wouldnt.When this "cheat mode" ends you continue as usual.Haha! I know it sucks but this is Konami ML
 
Im finding my Seria A master league much harder than my English D2 ML , same settings . I should be getting better at the game as the English ML was really my first games of PES 19.
I agree with the guys above about the scripting in ML so im thinking is there any point in signing a top goalkeeper if he is just going to see those super accurate AI shots fly into the top corner.
Mery xmas to all the regulars on here .
 
KONAMI the corporation might got a lot of sticks and bad rep, but when it comes to PES their PR and marketing guy are doing a pretty good job updating and acknowledging user's feedback.
 
losslesscompression said:
KONAMI the corporation might got a lot of sticks and bad rep, but when it comes to PES their PR and marketing guy are doing a pretty good job updating and acknowledging user's feedback.
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Jesus Christ you didnt just say that...
PR and Marketing guy are doing good job??
I can honestly say that I have never seen worse PR anywhere, ever.
Any constructive feedback is considered toxic, negative and people are being blocked left, right and centre (EVEN if, behind the closed doors, they are fixing same issues that those "negative and toxic" people were talking about)
There is no appreciation and no dialog between them and people.

Updates?? What updates?? 99% of their posts are shitty quality clips and myClub teasers.

Have a look at EA PR people and their updates, detailed pitch notes and see how its done.
There is no tool to communicate anything with Pes people apart of Official Pes. Its all one way traffic and their page sometimes resembles some joke account.

EA already created few surveys allowing people to send feedback and they respond to issues, even if topic is difficult and they dont really have answers or solutions.

When was last time PES officials responded to anything apart of fan boys kissing their asses??
Im a big fan of PES but its really difficult to defend them. How can their approach be considered "good job" is beyond me.

Years ago PES was miles ahead of the other game. And it still would be, if they werent so damn ignorant.
 
losslesscompression said:
KONAMI the corporation might got a lot of sticks and bad rep, but when it comes to PES their PR and marketing guy are doing a pretty good job updating and acknowledging user's feedback.
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is that joke out of cracker?. They are terrible they only half sorted the AI attack this year because nearly every person who bought it complained and it took months before they accepted it an issue. Then over last 3 years fouls were an issue (they flatly denied it on twitter). This year still no penalties people ask for info and nothing back. It's a joke
 
Yeah, good marketing.

Promising Scottish stadiums in May, not releasing them until almost one year after.

They thought they were smart attracting Rangers and Celtic fans, but in the end they promised without even having started working on them and so that backfired hard, with people complaining every day on Twitter because they bought the game based on the promise that those stadiums would have been in with a reasonable timetable.

Then you see Adam saying every stadium need three months to be fully completed. Well then, announce Scottish stadiums three-four months before release, not 8 months before. Nice marketing move, indeed, making people even more angry than they already are with Pes.

Also, i find infuriating Adam almost mocking fans saying:"you are the ones that believed we would have released it with first Data Pack, it's your fault for being so gullible, don't blame us, we never said it was going to be released with Data Pack 1".



Also, this stupid rhetoric of working together with fans to make Pes better.


There is no real evidence of this, otherwise they would have listened to the huge amount of people already complaining about Pes 2017 and 2018 lackluster offline modes and reacted accordingly. Instead we received an even worst slap in the face when they not only didn't improve Master League but effectively made it worse to play against CPU and completely removed two second leagues divisions.

Again, nice marketing if their goal is to force people switching to Fifa.
 
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Anyone else get pissed off at the pop ups under the scoreboard, particularly when your taking a throw in and it takes up nearly a quarter of the screen?

Why do games have to be so stingy when it comes to giving you options to turn things off? it's as if they don't just the user to understand what they're adjusting in the options so the simplify it or remove choices altogether.
 
slamsoze said:
Personally I have very rare clean sheet.I have constantly games with over3 goals,and I concede 1 goal for sure in every match no matter what,even if I would play against San Marino and achieve 7 goals I would concede one goal for sure.Furthermore I use it as a mini-exploit,in negotiations when I want to increase signing chances for defenders and Goalkeepers,I max out the Clean Sheet bonus as I know that they will never achieve it!!! :D :D :D
Now I am in my second season and I still concede one goal per match so the target is two goals when I want to ensure a win,one goal is not enough:P

I am just playing the first “cursed” cup match against Schalke,which is BS op this year just because KONAMI wanted to tease Dortmund (this is an other topic) and we are on extra time after a 2-2.I am taking a break right now.What I did I notice,as I am superior to them,both their goals were back to back response after their kickoff from my goals,1-1 from 1-0 and 2-2 from 2-1.In both goals they only used one chip through the middle pass with their CF who then played an one-two pass with the winger and tapped in my goalie all alone.The weird part is that my teams central axis was totally empty and both times it had only an isolated and misplaced CB to defend,despite the fact that my central axis should be overcrowded regularly cause I play 4-2-1-3 ,all out defense,conservative,containmentarea middle with 2 DMF ,an Anchorman and a destroyer, and advanced tactics deep defensive line.Despite all these the CPU attacked from kick off through my middle with all my players being unresponsive and misplaced except for my last CB who couldn’t catch up either way.
So yes I agree with @rockstrongo the “scripting” this year is extremely obvious.
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It's always been scripted,and I'm fine with that,but it's come to a point were it's just insane.
The way I see it is Konamis Cpu AI hasn't really evolved,the freedom you have as a player Vs the Cpu ,is very good,great even,but cpu needs to cheat more and more to be able to keep the game close.
Instead of building a believable CPU AI,they cut corners and cheat.
Like I said,I'm fine with cheating,but at this level?
Ridiculous!

Even if you keep a clean sheet at the end of the game,they pull out the old "low cross in to the box and your defender can't defend and striker goes top right corner"
Since almost all those low crosses end up top corner,makes it really bad.
"We can't win...top corner low cross.. engaged"!

I would even be fine with this year's cheating if it wasn't for how the AI cheats with your own playing,not the Cpu but yours,the HUM.
How many sudden bad touches,or strange passes do you make in the final third in crucial situations?
Me 2v1 ,a light through ball and I'm 1v1 with the keeper,and the pass is a rocket hitting my strikers back heels instead?
Despite the power bar being 1/10 full?

And I know it's down to TS ,but if I start a season with a proper team,on 80-85 TS,I expect to deliver straight away,but Konamis logic is "naah mate you're shit for at least a full season"
It's like back when you used to start with default players,you knew you'd suffer,but here it's applied to club line up as well.
Horrible logic by konami.
I've been playing this on manual for a very long time,but I can't enjoy this crap anymore, Professional/TP/SS it doesn't matter.
It cheats in different ways anyway!
 
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Sometimes you play a good through pass to some player, you are sprinting to the ball path then suddently your player stops running or quickly make quick 90 degree turn, losing his advantage, then keeps running again.
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Even worse when it happens to your defenders,a slight little detour and the Cpu striker beats you and scores
 
Emroth said:
It is, and it pisses me off, even tho i have to say that i dont see much of the scripting in my second season.
In fact - i didnt "feel" much of it for a while now. But there is no doubt - its there and its spoiling the fun for a lot of people. There is no need for that. Pity that they have to introduce such a cheap shots...
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With all my whining about this game
I can pretty much accept a lot of bs from the cpu,but the sharpness from the ai is ridiculous at times,yeah you lose a game or two when the opponents has two shots on goal,and scores on both.
But it happens pretty much on a regular basis
Aka the cheap shot.
Before I turned off my game last night I had lost 4 straight games,despite having a pass percentage of around 75% on manual,probably 15 shots a game,7-10 on goal.
CPU didn't have over 5 shots in any of those games,yet they scored 2-3-3-2- goals.
Go figure
 
@rockstrongo
I actually went to check how many clean sheets i had since the start of second season. :LOL:
3 out of 13 games played, so not too bad i suppose. Bare in mind I have average team and im currently at 9th place, so there are also draws and loses in there
But it's a second season and like i said - for a while now I noticed a big drop in this ridiculous scripting.
Still, even now when im winning, im on the edge till the end of each match, waiting and expecting AI to go crazy. So far im positively surprised.
But its a lot of bollox that we have to suffer most of first season for the game to become fair....ish.
 
rockstrongo said:
It's always been scripted,and I'm fine with that,but it's come to a point were it's just insane.
The way I see it is Konamis Cpu AI hasn't really evolved,the freedom you have as a player Vs the Cpu ,is very good,great even,but cpu needs to cheat more and more to be able to keep the game close.
Instead of building a believable CPU AI,they cut corners and cheat.
Like I said,I'm fine with cheating,but at this level?
Ridiculous!

Even if you keep a clean sheet at the end of the game,they pull out the old "low cross in to the box and your defender can't defend and striker goes top right corner"
Since almost all those low crosses end up top corner,makes it really bad.
"We can't win...top corner low cross.. engaged"!

I would even be fine with this year's cheating if it wasn't for how the AI cheats with your own playing,not the Cpu but yours,the HUM.
How many sudden bad touches,or strange passes do you make in the final third in crucial situations?
Me 2v1 ,a light through ball and I'm 1v1 with the keeper,and the pass is a rocket hitting my strikers back heels instead?
Despite the power bar being 1/10 full?

And I know it's down to TS ,but if I start a season with a proper team,on 80-85 TS,I expect to deliver straight away,but Konamis logic is "naah mate you're shit for at least a full season"
It's like back when you used to start with default players,you knew you'd suffer,but here it's applied to club line up as well.
Horrible logic by konami.
I've been playing this on manual for a very long time,but I can't enjoy this crap anymore, Professional/TP/SS it doesn't matter.
It cheats in different ways anyway!
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We have many times acknowledged the older titles good spots. But i have a feeling that i strongly believe is a real memory and not a placebo,that the TS thing in PES 2017 and more in 2016 was not affecting so much our players individuality,E.G. it toned down the teamwork staff like combinations, positioning and position keeping, forming a defensive line, but it has never watered down a players ball control or a player's sprinting-burst in the empty space. I thing it used to have more realistic impact.
And it could also change more easily ,increasing +1 or +2 after wins with good ratings and decreasing also -1 after some defeats. It was more flexible in 2016 for sure less flexible in 2017 and from 2018 and afterwards it is extremely rigid in all manners.
In conclusion i agree with everybody saying that TS went to the ultra wrong way, but i believe that in the recent past, it was implemented much better than nowadays. So my personal belief is not to remove it totally but to fix it or if they cannot, to revert it to the old way it worked in 2016/2017.

For the CPU cheating, i strongly believe that it is 100% lack of effort from KONAMI. They peaked their resources with the fair AI of 2015-2017 era and since the better AI needs more resources, they don't want or they don't have to invest, they started eliminating HUMAN inputs and flattening stats just to make the game seem more "challenging". As we are in the current era of MyClub/FuT and microtransactions, this situation will not change in the future unless some dramatic change in the current video-gaming era, where offline is sublime and only competitive PvP,e-sports is focused as the money-making matrix.
Yesterday after i was pissed from my "cursed" first cup game, the one i was 2-2 because of two kick-off back to back goals from CPU. I lost 5-2!!! in the extra-time, from 2 bs low crosses and the 5th goal was a momentum freekick which was obvious, it is a goal before the kicktaker start running, but momentum freekicks are part of the CPU core since PES 5 so i can accept this one.
So i fired up my PES 2018 ML trying to calm down and relax a little bit before i go to sleep and what did i notice in the "tragic" 2018. The same team, same players with inferior stats and same TS ~80 could do better runs through flanks , there was much less catch up in 2018 than the one i met in 2019. The only difference is in my 2019 ML,my team is in second season and my WFs, who have speed and acceleration over 80 cannot out run the opponent SBs.While some worse dudes in pes 2018 in the first season could make some breakthrough and were not stopped by catch-up or by stupid situations like bad controlling the ball with the back-heels or the ankle or the knee. at least not as often as this year's version.
 
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slamsoze said:
We have many times acknowledged the older titles good spots. But i have a feeling that i strongly believe is a real memory and not a placebo,that the TS thing in PES 2017 and more in 2016 was not affecting so much our players individuality,E.G. it toned down the teamwork staff like combinations, positioning and position keeping, forming a defensive line, but it has never watered down a players ball control or a player's sprinting-burst in the empty space. I thing it used to have more realistic impact.
And it could also change more easily ,increasing +1 or +2 after wins with good ratings and decreasing also -1 after some defeats. It was more flexible in 2016 for sure less flexible in 2017 and from 2018 and afterwards it is extremely rigid in all manners.
In conclusion i agree with everybody saying that TS went to the ultra wrong way, but i believe that in the recent past, it was implemented much better than nowadays. So my personal belief is not to remove it totally but to fix it or if they cannot, to revert it to the old way it worked in 2016/2017.

For the CPU cheating, i strongly believe that it is 100% lack of effort from KONAMI. They peaked their resources with the fair AI of 2015-2017 era and since the better AI needs more resources, they don't want or they don't have to invest, they started eliminating HUMAN inputs and flattening stats just to make the game seem more "challenging". As we are in the current era of MyClub/FuT and microtransactions, this situation will not change in the future unless some dramatic change in the current video-gaming era, where offline is sublime and only competitive PvP,e-sports is focused as the money-making matrix.
Yesterday after i was pissed from my "cursed" first cup game, the one i was 2-2 because of two kick-off back to back goals from CPU. I lost 5-2!!! in the extra-time, from 2 bs low crosses and the 5th goal was a momentum freekick which was obvious, it is a goal before the kicktaker start running, but momentum freekicks are part of the CPU core since PES 5 so i can accept this one.
So i fired up my PES 2018 ML trying to calm down and relax a little bit before i go to sleep and what did i notice in the "tragic" 2018. The same team, same players with inferior stats and same TS ~80 could do better runs through flanks , there was much less catch up in 2018 than the one i met in 2019. The only difference is in my 2019 ML,my team is in second season and my WFs, who have speed and acceleration over 80 cannot out run the opponent SBs.While some worse dudes in pes 2018 in the first season could make some breakthrough and were not stopped by catch-up or by stupid situations like bad controlling the ball with the back-heels or the ankle or the knee. at least not as often as this year's version.
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Always a good poster @slamsoze
I agree on all your points brother.
TS was implemented much better in 16-17,you felt rewarded when it got better,because you adapted your tactics to it,and CPU TS weren't insane either.
I fell out with Pes 18 quite fast,but this summer before 19 came out I started playing it again,and the Cpu AI is superior (in being more hum like) after the final patches.
I think Pes 18 is a much better game,with less annoying gamebreakers for me,I played it last night to,even though it had a few strange things happening to me,i mainly lost because I sucked,not because of bad cheating ai.
I'm gonna start playing Pes 18 more again,because FIFA (though I like it) can't really satisfy my Serie A fix
Hope you're having a great holiday brother.
And again,very good post!
 
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@rockstrongo
I actually went to check how many clean sheets i had since the start of second season. :LOL:
3 out of 13 games played, so not too bad i suppose. Bare in mind I have average team and im currently at 9th place, so there are also draws and loses in there
But it's a second season and like i said - for a while now I noticed a big drop in this ridiculous scripting.
Still, even now when im winning, im on the edge till the end of each match, waiting and expecting AI to go crazy. So far im positively surprised.
But its a lot of bollox that we have to suffer most of first season for the game to become fair....ish.
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Especially since there's a very good game under the hood.
That's what's killing me.
Great though that you enjoy it mate,I'm not gonna piss on your parade ,all negativity is down to me Vs this game.
I saw the shitstorm here on Pes 17 ,and that was a game I played and loved to bits.
Happy holidays mate
 
rockstrongo said:
Especially since there's a very good game under the hood.
That's what's killing me.
Great though that you enjoy it mate,I'm not gonna piss on your parade ,all negativity is down to me Vs this game.
I saw the shitstorm here on Pes 17 ,and that was a game I played and loved to bits.
Happy holidays mate
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Happy holidays to you and your family too mate. Let's just hope that until the end of the season (for KONAMI) they will bring the game to a state that will be better than the current updated version as they did the previous years.
Until now i read many complaints especially about the DLC 3.0 update. Many problems for online mostly but also from offline players (defenders responsiveness etc). I also try myself to avoid moaning too often, as the game seems to have a generally good momentum this year.At least for other players, maybe my personal play-style does not stuck up with this year's needed play-style.
 
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Happy holidays to you and your family too mate. Let's just hope that until the end of the season (for KONAMI) they will bring the game to a state that will be better than the current updated version as they did the previous years.
Until now i read many complaints especially about the DLC 3.0 update. Many problems for online mostly but also from offline players (defenders responsiveness etc). I also try myself to avoid moaning too often, as the game seems to have a generally good momentum this year.At least for other players, maybe my personal play-style does not stuck up with this year's needed play-style.
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Thanks mate,and to your family too.
I think the main issue is player responsiveness.
Both defenders and mf/fw,how many times do a pass just roll between two of your players?
Or that they suddenly wake up when switching to them,instead of being alert before switching players.
If the can sort that out,I believe the rest will be more manageable.
I don't enjoy defending this year,defense has always been my first priority.
Every year when I start a ML,that's where I start to build my team.
Defending always felt right in 17,felt ok on Pes 18 to,but not this year

When it comes to responsiveness when controlling the ball,passing/shooting/crossing it's very good,it takes time to set the body right etc,no issues there just that they feel half asleep when switching
 
slamsoze said:
We have many times acknowledged the older titles good spots. But i have a feeling that i strongly believe is a real memory and not a placebo,that the TS thing in PES 2017 and more in 2016 was not affecting so much our players individuality,E.G. it toned down the teamwork staff like combinations, positioning and position keeping, forming a defensive line, but it has never watered down a players ball control or a player's sprinting-burst in the empty space. I thing it used to have more realistic impact.
And it could also change more easily ,increasing +1 or +2 after wins with good ratings and decreasing also -1 after some defeats. It was more flexible in 2016 for sure less flexible in 2017 and from 2018 and afterwards it is extremely rigid in all manners.
In conclusion i agree with everybody saying that TS went to the ultra wrong way, but i believe that in the recent past, it was implemented much better than nowadays. So my personal belief is not to remove it totally but to fix it or if they cannot, to revert it to the old way it worked in 2016/2017.

For the CPU cheating, i strongly believe that it is 100% lack of effort from KONAMI. They peaked their resources with the fair AI of 2015-2017 era and since the better AI needs more resources, they don't want or they don't have to invest, they started eliminating HUMAN inputs and flattening stats just to make the game seem more "challenging". As we are in the current era of MyClub/FuT and microtransactions, this situation will not change in the future unless some dramatic change in the current video-gaming era, where offline is sublime and only competitive PvP,e-sports is focused as the money-making matrix.
Yesterday after i was pissed from my "cursed" first cup game, the one i was 2-2 because of two kick-off back to back goals from CPU. I lost 5-2!!! in the extra-time, from 2 bs low crosses and the 5th goal was a momentum freekick which was obvious, it is a goal before the kicktaker start running, but momentum freekicks are part of the CPU core since PES 5 so i can accept this one.
So i fired up my PES 2018 ML trying to calm down and relax a little bit before i go to sleep and what did i notice in the "tragic" 2018. The same team, same players with inferior stats and same TS ~80 could do better runs through flanks , there was much less catch up in 2018 than the one i met in 2019. The only difference is in my 2019 ML,my team is in second season and my WFs, who have speed and acceleration over 80 cannot out run the opponent SBs.While some worse dudes in pes 2018 in the first season could make some breakthrough and were not stopped by catch-up or by stupid situations like bad controlling the ball with the back-heels or the ankle or the knee. at least not as often as this year's version.
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Team Spirit seems to over ride everything else, its got to go imho. It should have a small impqct in games
not a major decisive one. Defending in ML is impossible, doesnt mater if you play 5-4-1 deep defensive line , man marking or 4-2-4 all out attack the AI will still score its goals when it wants
 
Makes a lot of sense to me now why this game is struggling to progress, it takes Konami 7 months to implement 2 Scottish stadiums and from what Adam said on his tweet, the development team had to also make sacrifices to bring those stadiums out by February, we can forget about master league progressing for at least another 20 yrs, merry Xmas everyone
 
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It s really a shame to go everytime on myclub to play an online match and find no player....what a shame,just look at the other game....seriously? No players in ranked matches 1v1....no one plays myclub or what there s something wrong here
 
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Dennis_87 said:
Nice try Adam...lol
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I used a similar "catch phrase" against you last year.I almost received an unofficial warning for "trolling" from the mods back then. History repeats it self sometimes! :P :P
By the way Merry Xmas or holidays or whatevs Dennis. Hope we see you back to PES forums more often next year. I see you roam more in FIFA and PESvsFIFA section.
 
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