PES 2017 PlayStation & Xbox Discussion Thread

For me! If these welcomed fixes/improvements are as good as Konami claim, then if/when PES 2017 for PC turns out to be another Last-Gen port it will be a significantly less bitter pill for me to swallow?
 
The impressions last year and this year looks biased aswell...however(!) this year the improvements are more specific (well besides the press impressions). Last year every impression was generic like "shooting is good and crisp".

Im not hyped but im curious, they had (dont count 2014 bc Adam was just a community manager then) 3 years now to develop on Fox so if they cant do a decent sim-fun game in the 3rd year i think they wont/cant in the future.

So it is now or never in my eyes.
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
The impressions last year and this year looks biased aswell...however(!) this year the improvements are more specific (well besides the press impressions). Last year every impression was generic like "shooting is good and crisp".

Im not hyped but im curious, they had (dont count 2014 bc Adam was just a community manager then) 3 years now to develop on Fox so if they cant do a decent sim-fun game in the 3rd year i think they wont/cant in the future.

So it is now or never in my eyes.
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Totally Agree!
 
All the improvements people talking should be in game. Half of them fixed isn't enough.
Passing superb shooting meh can't be an option anymore.
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
The impressions last year and this year looks biased aswell...however(!) this year the improvements are more specific (well besides the press impressions). Last year every impression was generic like "shooting is good and crisp".

Im not hyped but im curious, they had (dont count 2014 bc Adam was just a community manager then) 3 years now to develop on Fox so if they cant do a decent sim-fun game in the 3rd year i think they wont/cant in the future.

So it is now or never in my eyes.
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WORD!!!

btw: im back for this years ride... every year the same... :)

hello to all of you! good to see some users again...
 
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curdstar said:
I guess what I will say is that a great many in here and elsewhere were initially impressed with PES2016. While not impressed by it any longer, I don't completely hate it.

Folk are looking for some conspiracy which isn't there. Listen, I used to do the WENB thing and went to playtests and alike and it simply being different was, admittedly, enough to see the positives over negatives. You just want to play it in that environment and while you will look out for certain things, a lot can get lost. Everybody will say "but if it was me doing it I would do better" They wouldn't, or at least not massively better.

Take it all as impressions in an environment that lasts a couple of hours. You go to these things and meet people from around various communities (I met Romagnoli from these boards at the PES2013 playtest back in the day, for example - cool guy) and you are caught up in the moment: glad to meet folk whom were nothing but a username and/or profile pic before and there is just good vibes in general. Might skewer the overall outlook when trying to gather thoughts and write about the game afterwards.

Nobody is up to anything I guess is what I am saying.

Trust? I just trust myself and nobody else when it comes to videogames because it will be me playing it...or not... and it is just a videogame.
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I understand that.

The whole excitement of playing a new PES at first hand before anyone else and being part of a special "PESDay" event organized by Konami itself can really make playtesters not actually see any potential flaws that may overshadow the postive changes to the gameplay.

But at the same time I also think that the praise Pes 2017 have been recieving by the community is not the same as it was with Pes 2016. Theres a different ton of excietment this year. Playstesters this year seem to be very confident when they say Pes 2017 gameplay is fantastic and their reasoning for that seems to be a bit more convincing to me than last year when the majority of them only said vague, ridiculous thoughts lile "Pes 2016 gameplay very smooth and fun" (I hate that btw).

Does that Daniel guy also has an account on here ? He's crazily excieted by what he played and he is one of those that seem be too confident on what he says. He's putting his reputarion at risk because of how much hes been praisimg the game. And he seems to be an old member of wenbs forum.
 
DuduBR9 said:
I understand that.

The whole excitement of playing a new PES at first hand before anyone else and being part of a special "PESDay" event organized by Konami itself can really make playtesters not actually see any potential flaws that may overshadow the postive changes to the gameplay.

But at the same time I also think that the praise Pes 2017 have been recieving by the community is not the same as it was with Pes 2016. Theres a different ton of excietment this year. Playstesters this year seem to be very confident when they say Pes 2017 gameplay is fantastic and their reasoning for that seems to be a bit more convincing to me than last year when the majority of them only said vague, ridiculous thoughts lile "Pes 2016 gameplay very smooth and fun" (I hate that btw).

Does that Daniel guy also has an account on here ? He's crazily excieted by what he played and he is one of those that seem be too confident on what he says. He's putting his reputarion at risk because of how much hes been praisimg the game. And he seems to be an old member of wenbs forum.
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I think he runs a PES competition in a cafe(?) something somewhere.... lol?
 
FIFA moving to Frostbite has been confirmed by EA with a trailer.

Konami, your move.
 
*aLe said:
FIFA moving to Frostbite has been confirmed by EA with a trailer.

Konami, your move.
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Adam seems scared.

Konami better make Pes 2017 to be the Pes 5 of our days...
 
lol, that dude has no clue.

EA are basically competing with themselves at this point and still manage to improve their game and change engines. When, really, they could just keep releasing the same game with improvements and people would buy it.

Meanwhile in Japan:

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Nothing wrong with good banter.
 
tobi said:
Nothing wrong with good banter.
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Not even good banter. EA actually showed bits of their game. Konami? 'Oh, no. We need to polish the graphics up before we allow people to record footage.'

Plus that whole 'we're better on the pitch' thing wasn't even true or accurate last year, when they started using it.

Shouldn't be talking shit about your competition when they're by far ahead of you and you don't even show off your game.
 
Ignoring the fifa nonsense above (i dont care what EA are doing with their game. Its irrelevant) thanks to PES Russia for those Q&As loads of info all centralised into one post
 
Shikashi said:
Not even good banter. EA actually showed bits of their game. Konami? 'Oh, no. We need to polish the graphics up before we allow people to record footage.'

Plus that whole 'we're better on the pitch' thing wasn't even true or accurate last year, when they started using it.

Shouldn't be talking shit about your competition when they're by far ahead of you and you don't even show off your game.
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If KONAMI made this kind of trailer (and they made it last years) they would have been called idiots, amateurs, and so on. Don't pretend to forget what happened when Pes launched a teaser trailer a week before the actual trailer.

Anyway do you call that bits of their game? If it wasn't specified it was Frostbite i wouldn't even guessed it, too little to even see something.
 
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Ameppe said:
If KONAMI made this kind of trailer (and they made it last years) they would have been called idiots, amateurs, and so on. Don't pretend to forget what happened when Pes launched a teaser trailer a week before the actual trailer.

Anyway do you call that bits of their game? If it wasn't specified it was Frostbite i wouldn't even guessed it, too little to even see something.
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Except you'll get to see the game in 6 days.

If Konami were to do that trailer, they would probably have to announce a delay to their trailer. Or take the trailer down because it wasn't released at the right time and was running on an old build, or whatever the excuse was.

So EA can absolutely release a teaser to their trailer, because they release trailers on time and good ones.

Konami can't release teaser trailers because the game hasn't been any decent for years and years and years and people are rightfully weary and suspicious of Konami.
 
Shikashi said:
Except you'll get to see the game in 6 days.

If Konami were to do that trailer, they would probably have to announce a delay to their trailer. Or take the trailer down because it wasn't released at the right time and was running on an old build, or whatever the excuse was.

So EA can absolutely release a teaser to their trailer, because they release trailers on time and good ones.

Konami can't release teaser trailers because the game hasn't been any decent for years and years and years and people are rightfully weary and suspicious of Konami.
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pes is the better game bro, trolololollllooololollolo
 
sando said:
pes is the better game bro, trolololollllooololollolo
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Well if there is no video, let's forget about the game.
I don´t know why fans continue to bleed and suffer at the same time.
It's a game, whatever it is or made let's forget about it.
I hate konami? No. I'm really a big fan of konami games, since 2014 they made people stop being a fan.
And it's not my fault really, if they care so much love and proud on their job to sale good, they should know people can profit the game if they want so stop badly bankrupt the company.
Focus on PC, PS4 and XBOX ONE should be a priority.
 
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Konami not showing any directfeed video of the game in action at e3 is, for many many people (myself included), is equivalent to skipping what is basically the most important gaming event in the world.

Its such an anti-popular/anti-marketing decision, specially when you have a huge company on the other side not just showing a new Fifa, its a new game on one of the most mordern engine ever, and thats a real nextgen move.

Cant you guys see the problem here ? They are just making their game to lose even more popularity.

At the end of the day, whats matter for everyone is how the final product looks like. If the game still is under developmemt and there will be notable improvements, thats not an excuse to not showing it and skipping such a huge event like E3.

Many, many developers of different genres already showed their games at an earlh stage of developmemt, many of them just use that note "game is currently under development and may not represent the quality of the final product", why cant Konami just do the same ?

This is not bad at all, this is actually very good.'its nice for the fans to see the progress of the game during development, that only motivates people to buy since it makes clear that they are making efforts to deliver they best they can do.

Konami only THINK they are doing the right thing by skippimg E3, but they are not.
 
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There will be an E3 trailer and important edit news, they already hinted at that.

The only difference is that maybe there won't be a live gameplay demo, like they did the last two years with IGN.

But EA won't have a live gameplay either, it will just be few seconds ingame in slow motion replay cam. Don't expect demo gameplay videos before Gamescom.
 
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Shikashi said:
Except you'll get to see the game in 6 days.

If Konami were to do that trailer, they would probably have to announce a delay to their trailer. Or take the trailer down because it wasn't released at the right time and was running on an old build, or whatever the excuse was.

So EA can absolutely release a teaser to their trailer, because they release trailers on time and good ones.

Konami can't release teaser trailers because the game hasn't been any decent for years and years and years and people are rightfully weary and suspicious of Konami.
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I have no idea what you are on about we have had trailers every year. I went looking for the EA trailer and there is hardly anything there to shout about. Calm down, breathe deeply, wooosaaaaa
 
zeemeister said:
I have no idea what you are on about we have had trailers every year. I went looking for the EA trailer and there is hardly anything there to shout about. Calm down, breathe deeply, wooosaaaaa
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You don't remember the PES trailers being delayed and removed from YT? Incredible.
Also, what does writing long posts have to do with being calm or not? I'd like to know. I'll start writing up 2 word posts from now and then, seeing as writing long ones appear to make me look upset.
 
DuduBR9 said:
Konami not showing any directfeed video of the game in action at e3 is, for many many people (myself included), is equivalent to skipping what is basically the most important gaming event in the world.

Its such an anti-popular/anti-marketing decision, specially when you have a huge company on the other side not just showing a new Fifa, its a new game on one of the most mordern engine ever, and thats a real nextgen move.

Cant you guys see the problem here ? They are just making their game to lose even more popularity.

At the end of the day, whats matter for everyone is how the final product looks like. If the game still is under developmemt and there will be notable improvements, thats not an excuse to not showing it and skipping such a huge event like E3.

Many, many developers of different genres already showed their games at an earlh stage of developmemt, many of them just use that note "game is currently under development and may not represent the quality of the final product", why cant Konami just do the same ?

This is not bad at all, this is actually very good.'its nice for the fans to see the progress of the game during development, that only motivates people to buy since it makes clear that they are making efforts to deliver they best they can do.

Konami only THINK they are doing the right thing by skippimg E3, but they are not.
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100% disagree with You. Konami made in the past to many mistakes with stupid teasters and trailers because they showed it to early. They should make one good superb trailer!!!!!! The trailer should looks very professional. Not amateurish like in previous years. If they want fight with Ea in this erea they should make it in high level. It's doesn't matter that ea have frostbite engine because Konami have very good engine too a Fox engine. The important is use it in 100% power. Three years develop in Fox engine give Konami chance to make really superb football game.
 
Shikashi said:
You don't remember the PES trailers being delayed and removed from YT? Incredible.
Also, what does writing long posts have to do with being calm or not? I'd like to know. I'll start writing up 2 word posts from now and then, seeing as writing long ones appear to make me look upset.
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I remember games not trailers.
 
zeemeister said:
I remember games not trailers.
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Just two years ago, they removed the very first PES 2015 trailer/teaser from YT. Because people were told they were going to get a full reveal and ended up getting a short video that looked terrible. Naturally the dislike bar grew bigger and bigger and Konami ended up removing the trailer from the official PES YT channel.

The video presented by Konami on 25/6 for Pro Evolution Soccer 2015 has been removed from the official company's account on Youtube.

There is no official statement for the removal, but through the official account of Pro Evolution Soccer on Twitter, there was an informal statement. Click read more to see the statement ...

@elmickio We have removed the trailer in order to give you a more exciting video soon.
— Pro Evolution Soccer (@officialpes) June 27, 2014


http://www.wehellas.gr/index.php/en/news/games-news/item/318-pes-2015-video
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i dont think a teaser or trailer makes a difference. they should have introduce all these new features via a teaser (no gameplay whatever, its ok) but they didnt, they will make one first and final trailer and i believe there will be gameplay footages, handheld cams at least. but u know what could be the case here? they simply dont have such money in the budget for 4-5 trailers this year and for a Neymar/Morata, all the marketing bs.

they spent all the money on mocap and on the database editors wich i hope is they case and they really focused on the game


or the more logical reason is that...Frostbite is good, very good, they knew it its coming so they will polish the shit out of PES before showing it OFFICIALY


or a bit of both :D
 
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