I was waiting for someone to mention fifas woman, as I agree it is an amazing game and very sim like. Simulation because of the much slower pace as well as the slower heavier touches by the players. It really is a joy to play and I prefer it over playing with the men's teams. There is also a lot of space, so when u say ultimate football simulator, I'd say yes, but more towards simulating a womans game of football - not men's.
Which game, pes2016 or FIFA 16, is the ultimate football sim? Which one do i like better? I've been playing both these demos (on full manual passing and shooting) since they have been released and love them both and for the first time will buy them both, simply because each has something fantastic to offer that the other game is missing. I've been playing both these demos exclusively vs CPU, but finally last night I got a chance to play both games human v human. I think this is where both games really shine n show their true colours, particularly pes2016. Holy shit we had an amazing night of football. We had the ps4 hooked up to my 100" projector set up. Amazing!!! Basically I had 4 hours playing 2humans v 1human (a friend piked it last minute so we only had 3), ie myself and another mate (both seasoned pes players) playing against a mate whos a seasoned FIFA player. We obviously changed up the 2v1 scenario and it's important to note we played everything on full manual passing and shooting. We spent about 2hrs on PES and 2hrs on FIFA. The human v human scenario gave us an opportunity to learn so much about each game and I'll summarise some of the important points I took from the session:
-with pes2016, 2humans on one team makes this game so realistic in terms of teamwork (n hence more sim-like), where the passing human really needs to communicate with human making runs n vice a versa. BIG KEY POINT: ensure u have both players on the same team on UNASSISTED. This is a game changer as SEMI- ASSISTED seems to screw both players over and confuses things. Semiassist is fine (and what I consistently use) for 1human v 1 human or 1human v CPU. Unassisted gives u much more control when 2+ humans are on the one team. Fifa16 seems to work fine with 2human control by simply choosing the AIRBALLS, hence didn't try the other settings.
-with pes2016, fouls are not an issue when playing 2human v 1human - ie, anything foul worthy is given.
-with pes2016, speed on default (0) is no longer too fast , ie seems quite a bit slower, when playing 2human v1human.
-pes2016 is definitely smoother than FIFA16 in terms of flow and the way the ball moves. Really has a nice momentum about it. I'm absolutely convinced pes2016 has a greater framerate than fifa16....making things like shooting look smoother.
Maybe this is a way that helps FIFA make things more responsive aswell as including all the variety in its animations, ie by lowering frame rate.
-both games have awesome ball physics, and relating to the previous point, pes16 seems to have smoother ball movement, while FIFA has so much more variation in what can happen to the ball. I think the weight of FIFAs ball is enhanced by the high volume of the ball sounds (kicking, whack against the ad boards etc). When pes2016 retail version is out, Ill purposely lower the volume of everything (eg. Commentary, crowd etc) to around 3, while leaving pitch sound (ball sounds) at 10. This seems to add weight to the ball..did this in pes 2015 n 14 to great effect.
-FIFA 16s penalty systems is way more realistic an hence a more suspenseful and satisfying experience than pes2016's (obviously there is no penalty shootouts in pes2016 - so just comparing to in game penalty). Also In FIFA u can now control the celebration of the final winning kick taker..cool..
-FIFA 16 is more simlike than pes 2016 in terms of the greater variety of what can actually happen animation wise as well as what u can actually do control-wise. Dribbling looks more natural in FIFA because of this, and the number of passing and shooting animations are phenomenal compared to pes. The right stick is amazing with FIFA..it's not just easier and more natural to pull off tricks but also enables u to perform more variety with your first touch, as well as sprinting and knocking the ball forward. It has to be said that pes2016 is a lot simpler than FIFA animation wise as well as what u can actually pull off, but in saying that, pes2016 makes the most of what it's got and does it incredibly well.
-Without a doubt, pes2016 has better player individuality than fifa16. Robbed is the perfect example in pes as he is so much easier to dribble with. But this individuality also extends to powerplayers like progba who is an absolute beast. Really highlights pes's new improved physical system. We didn't quite get this feeling with FIFA..most of the players felt the same..
-Finally, when it comes to actual gameplay (2human v 1human), me n my mates unanimously agree that pes 2016 is more simlike than FIFA - being a more gripping, lower number of goals type of game. Why?.. Well it's all to do with the defence and the space available. Now we didn't play around with tactics too much (so our views may change during the retail versions), but in pes there is not nearly as much space as in FIFA. Defence ai in pes seems way more intelligent in closing down space...also, more importantly, it's easier to control a defender in pes than in FIFA when compared to an attacking player. Just seems that the response of controlling a defending player in Pes is so much better than in FIFA. Attacking, particularly dribbling, felt too easy in FIFA. What does this mean? The balance is definitely better in pes2016 compared to fifa16. This evidently resulted in two outcomes. Firstly, we had closer, more suspenseful games, and what I considered more realistic matches while playing pes, with more realistic match stats. Secondly, although FIFA has definitely slowed down its gameplay, and I love the increased weighty feeling etc, the lack of balance between defence and attack makes the game appear quicker and more hectic than it should be. It's a tough one to explain...I'm hoping someone out there gets what I'm saying. The hectic pace and openness seems to be created by the lack of compactiveness (defence ai) as well as the difficulty defending when compared to attacking.
Whoa I've written a lot ... It's obvious I'm outta town, having no access to my ps4...
Anyways both games are brilliant, best pes ever made, n best FIFA ever made.. Gotta get em both..
Thee last two posts have been so funny. the video is played on Beginner/regular level!
