PES 2014 Discussion Thread

[StayingPower]

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Screw it, I actually really do like this game. If they would just speed up the horrendously slow menus (one of my favourite things about PES was quickly pausing and checking a players long-shot stat before taking a shot, now that takes way too long) and fix the few instances of input lag I could see myself playing it all the way to PES 2015 without getting fed up or frustrated.

 

[digimon]

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So for me MLO has been very good. Through ball whores not working at all. Im controlling matches and winning them with ease. Having 60+ possession and making that count with simple 1-0/2-0 wins. Im really enjoying it. Its also thankfully a slow grind as you dont get many points unless you win loads of matches in a row and build your multiplier. The most ive got is 150 from a 5 game winning streak.

It seems like the game is working beautifully on 360. its the ps side which are having problems.

 

[MUFan23]

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Didn't think the response times and button lag would be this much poor.

 

[Coach pep]

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Ok, so I got some things on my mind. I got Pes 2014 last friday for PS3 and been playing it a lot during the weekend. At first, I was very frustrated on the new controls and "stiffness" of the players, but now I can state this is not the case. Just minutes ago I reached my peak moment with Pes 2014 so far.

What I did was to install game data from the options in the main menu. This came to transfer my game literally. It could be placebo and just me adapting to the game but but anyhow the game suddenly felt more responsive and polished. It still lags sometimes and there is slowdown around the box, but other than small bugs I'm now satisfied with Pes 2014 and finally able to experience its brilliance.

My conclusion is that it surely takes a while before you get grips on this game. You have to spend a lot of time making love with it, taking long breaks then come back again. It comes to you slowly as you accustom while you play. It is impossible to judge the game before you can play it properly and if you just give it time it all comes to you. For example, the dribbling isn’t stiff for me anymore since I realized that you have to use both sticks while dribbling nearly all the time. Using only the left stick is close control, but dribbling and trapping with both sticks is the real deal (it still bothers me though that we haven’t got any dribble speed stat anymore and instead every player who is fast automatically gets super good dribble speed which is far from realism). There should also be a more normal jogging tempo as an alternative like in previous Pes games, as for now you really just can sprint or move tightly. But then again as I said, dribbling with both sticks reduces this.

The game is so deep you have to dig into it before shouting that it sucks when it’s just you sucking at the game. I did that myself but it was idiotic since it was just me being paralyzed. The previous Pes games with all disappointments through the years has made me an angry man but if this year wasn’t different I wouldn’t be sitting here writing this. The butterflies in my stomach are back (hopefully they will remain lol). Something totally new and beautiful emerges right in front of you the moment you learn to control this game. I don’t think I have to get into detail as everyone will see this eventually and some of you already have.

The tactics are also important to understand if you want to play the game you like. It works a bit different from previous Pes games for sure, but I’m sure everyone will learn it soon enough.

I do still have doubts in some areas though. I am an offline player and playing on Top Player is very easy for me when it comes to possession. Fairly comfortable I dominated a 15 min game against Roma with Atalanta although it ended 0-0. Before that I played on professional with Barca against AS Monaco and I could literally glide through the match without lending the ball out at all. The AI plays more on the ground than previous games but the players take too much time with the ball and can’t hold it good enough. My style has always been possession football and I’m specialized it and since I’m a barca fan I don’t know any other football. Maybe it’s me being too extreme with this. Btw I think adjusting tactics for every team will surely make them play better, let’s see how that goes. Proffessional is too easy for me anyway.

I do also sadly feel player/team individuality is missing. It’s still early and I'm adapting but I didn’t feel much difference in playing with Barca or Atalanta. I was able to dictate the game as easily with both teams and players felt the same a lot. Everyone runs and at the same speed with the ball it seems and there is small speed differences in general. Hopefully this will change with time while discovering new things and getting better at dribbling with both sticks.

Hoping for a patch to sort out the bugs as ASAP, shame on you Konami.

 

[genesee]

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Guys, is there still a difference between PS3 and xbox in a full game? I just dont know which one to get it.

 

[PotatoCouch]

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Guys, is there still a difference between PS3 and xbox in a full game? I just dont know which one to get it.

I think no difference, although some people said that xbox is more responsive but there isn't any official review about this so at the moment, it's just a matter of preference or liking.

Who plays FIFA? I'm sure at one stage you must have because the question that i am about to ask is something similar to a process in FIFA series.

Does anyone know if we can assign stadium to a team in PES 2014? i.e. assigning Estadio de Luz/Royal London stadium to Arsenal and renaming it to Emirates Stadium. Is this something that can/should be done via OF in PS3?

 

[BlueChampion]

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I think no difference, although some people said that xbox is more responsive but there isn't any official review about this so at the moment, it's just a matter of preference or liking.

Who plays FIFA? I'm sure at one stage you must have because the question that i am about to ask is something similar to a process in FIFA series.

Does anyone know if we can assign stadium to a team in PES 2014? i.e. assigning Estadio de Luz/Royal London stadium to Arsenal and renaming it to Emirates Stadium. Is this something that can/should be done via OF in PS3?

Yes you can do it. You can do it manually easily or through OF.

 

[araul]

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There's nothing really wrong with the depth of the presentation aside from sound (which is pretty dreadful at conveying a stadium-like atmosphere). The whole lack of stadium arguments is incredibly shallow.

Granted I have problems with the game but this is getting annoying now. There's room for improvement of course but if presentation bothers you go with Fifa like everybody else who cares about shit like that does. Sorry to be so blunt but it needs to be said.

I dont mind your bluntness, you are entitled to your opinion. All Ii want is a game with great gameplay (which PES 2014 delivers) AND great presentation.

Presentation is not about how pretty the menus are, i couldnt give a rats ass about that, or even how slow the UI is in the menu screens but how deep the overall offering is. I am not the only one who thinks that the PES games of late all have an unfinished feel to them. In my books this is not acceptable, or if you release an unfinished game I will not give you full price for it.

In the previous gen it aleays felt as if the new PES title offered more than the last, this generation it feels like the games keep getting watered down to the bare bones. How about online? How is it acceptable to have laggy games constantly or in the case of PES 2009, that players teleport on the field? Should this not matter because the gameplay is good? Isnt the overall package that should be assessed, not just one element of it? AAcceptance of these things breed complacency and complacency breeds contempt.

 

[kouroux]

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Modders can do something about the camera right ? Because it's not nearly wide enough for me. I need to see a lot more of the pitch.

 

[Lami]

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Headers, first time shots in the box, and finesse shots are broken on manual shooting. I wish people would stop saying headers are working for them when they're not playing on manual.

I actually wish people would start saying they're playing on manual when saying headers are broken so we can differentiate. Actually even better state the platform and also disc or digital.

 

[we7god]

Tried the retail and i have to say: it is totally broken for me. No joy at all...
Bad response, lagging and stuttering very often - this made my decission to say gta v and diablo 3. Saves me about 50 euros...

 

[Lami]

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PC?

 

[anzeyima]

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Loving the game this year! Bring on the Daymos OF.

 

[Rooney10]

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so it was another year of just full hype?

 

[dejavu76]

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Received my retail copy
This game is great and Ps3 ver is very good better than I expected after all this negative feedback about gfx and overall.
Finally after the broken 2008-2010 and soft pes 2011-2013 now this sounds as a real solid pes after few hours of play.

Tevez gifted me with this beauty when I asked him to pass:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbQ95QzNqks

 

[P34SEMM]

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Tried the retail and i have to say: it is totally broken for me. No joy at all...
Bad response, lagging and stuttering very often - this made my decission to say gta v and diablo 3. Saves me about 50 euros...

Same here.

Its unfinished. Its a beta code.

 

[P34SEMM]

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For me PES used to be a game that you could pick up and play whereas the other game was more complicated. Now its the other way round. PES too deep (for me) and I get no joy out of it.

Im not the best gamer in the world but have always been really good at PES. But it seems no more. I havnt got time to study the game. I just want to pick up and play. You can no longer do this with PES.

 

[dejavu76]

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For me PES used to be a game that you could pick up and play whereas the other game was more complicated. Now its the other way round. PES too deep (for me) and I get no joy out of it.

Im not the best gamer in the world but have always been really good at PES. But it seems no more. I havnt got time to study the game. I just want to pick up and play. You can no longer do this with PES.

Put a lower level if needed And invest a couple of days, you will have your usual beloved Pes

 

[P34SEMM]

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Quit complaining and move on ? Dont play it...


Mods can you PLEASE do something about this. One negative review is fine but to continue with useless negative posts from same users its ruining this thread.

Its a forum you complete tool.

Im struggling to get to grips with the game but I can see its unfinished. Cursor problems, no response in the box, poor keepers. Non game wise - players without faces and necks. People cant get online - data pack issues.

You dont need to be a PES god to see its unfinished.

I would have rather they left PES14 and jumped to PES15 on Next Gen. PES14 feels like a beta code that they have just thrown out there.

Thats my opinion on a forum where you give opinions.

Get that?

 

[Houldey]

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played 2 vs 2 games a whole day yesterday, and its an arcade spring fest with bouncing players to each other, mr marketing bullshit konami, "another company who is all about the money dadada..."

Was this online or offline?

 

[Lami]

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Its a forum you complete tool.

Im struggling to get to grips with the game but I can see its unfinished. Cursor problems, no response in the box, poor keepers. Non game wise - players without faces and necks. People cant get online - data pack issues.

You dont need to be a PES god to see its unfinished.

I would have rather they left PES14 and jumped to PES15 on Next Gen. PES14 feels like a beta code that they have just thrown out there.

Thats my opinion on a forum where you give opinions.

Get that?

First of all, do not call him a tool.

Second of all, you know why he has a point? This is why:

Played 1 game so early days but I didnt enjoy it. I was Barca V Man U.
Patrice Evra has no neck what so ever.
Yeah yeah I have to learn it etc but why cant they just make games like they used - oh and release finished games.
Every year we get this shit with Konami - day 1 patches etc. Im stuck downloading update on 7% after about 15 mins. Its a joke. Finish the game then release it.

Right played a few more games. I dont like it.
There are bugs all over it. Just launch a long ball up field and you are one on one every time.
Curser changing is dreadful. The animations when shooting are awful.
As usual with Konami in recent years theres a good game in there but its bugged to death and broken in places.
This game feels souless for me.
Finally - Riena and Higuain are not at Napoli. They joined late July early August. Seriously!!!!

I'm just not feeling this game at all. So unresponsive.
Boatang hits post and rolls past shawaray who just stands there. I'm pressing the buttons and nothing.
Is my live affair with pes over? Will try again later

This game needs next gen consoles. It's another case of "next year" for pes. As it's been every year for last 8 years.
Current gen has been lost on Konami.

Had a few more games and some of it is brilliant.
But some of it is a hard slog:
Curser changes
Response
Menus, changing players and formations - basically everything you do off the pitch is slow and tedious.

The game is unfinished.

It's like a demo of a demo.

I've had some truly baffling random bits of play.

When it's great it's great but most of the time it's a mess
I can't believe Konami have got another £36 out if me.

I wont be playing PES14 again until its patched. Its clearly not finished.
Curser changes, response in the box and floaty shots all need to be fixed.

Then we need the transfers done along with the faces. I wonder if the update will include P Evras neck?

I guess its too much to ask that Konami release a complete game.

Same here.

Its unfinished. Its a beta code.

For me PES used to be a game that you could pick up and play whereas the other game was more complicated. Now its the other way round. PES too deep (for me) and I get no joy out of it.

Im not the best gamer in the world but have always been really good at PES. But it seems no more. I havnt got time to study the game. I just want to pick up and play. You can no longer do this with PES.

These are your posts in the last 2 days only. You've made your point quite clearly and keep repeating yourself. Once or twice would be more than enough really.

 

[Houldey]

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Its a forum you complete tool.

Im struggling to get to grips with the game but I can see its unfinished. Cursor problems, no response in the box, poor keepers. Non game wise - players without faces and necks. People cant get online - data pack issues.

You dont need to be a PES god to see its unfinished.

I would have rather they left PES14 and jumped to PES15 on Next Gen. PES14 feels like a beta code that they have just thrown out there.

Thats my opinion on a forum where you give opinions.

Get that?

If you've decided that PES is dead, unfinished and total garbage, why are you still hanging around the PES forum? It seems odd.

 

[acillatem]

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can anyone tell me if there is a export/import team option in the edit menu? becouse i´ve heard there isn´t?

 

[ccshopland]

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I have to say, I've seen tumps of moaning about how non pick up and play this year's PES is.....and I'm loving that reaction. I hope this is the game where I don't win for around 3 months, and have to redefine totally how a football game is played. Loving it.

 

[P34SEMM]

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Players without faces and necks....? You lost all your credibility right there.

check out Evra.
Tell me where his neck has gone.

 

[losslesscompression]

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Finally got my hand on this game. It look nothing like those on Youtube. 60 fps here on my outdated rig (Core2Quad 2.5 GHz, 4GB DDR2, GTX460), bar the cutscene when it drop a few frames, but it always has been that way since PES 3. The game play nothing like the old PES.

Didn't you lot were saying last year that can't stand another old engine PES? Seems that was the consensus here. Well, your wish come true.

 

[Skylark]

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i'm trying hard to like the game but can't ! its almost unplayable !! obviously gameplay is the main concern but these things are also taking me out from the game -
* player models ( they look ok from closeup but looks like kids when playing with wide cam..specially when kits are tucked in, players look hilarious as some kids are playing on the ground wearing adult's shirts)
* poor cameras. when i first saw the customizable camera on E3, i was very happy.but after getting the game i am disappointed.
* only 20 stadiums !!
* no weather !!
and so many other things........

 

[losslesscompression]

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Was seriously contemplating of buying FIFA 14, because i was foolish to take every single complain literally and trusting too much on some Youtube footage. Turn out, the game look and play 110% better in front of your eyes.

 

[Isslander]

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I have a bit of slowdown, playing PS3 retail. Slight pause when the ball goes just wide and sometimes into goal I think, also once when I hit the post! Occasional bad slowdown when taking a goal kick, while the view is behind the keeper. Gameplay slowdown hasn't been big enough to bother me though, but the gameplan slowdown can be a git.

I'm testing out Professional - 15 minutes at the moment and am enjoying it, 15 minutes is a lot better then 10 minutes when playing a game but damn, playing whole seasons is going to require some serious time!

 

[araul]

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Thanks Lami for stepping in. I don't mind when a poster complains once or twice but just over and over and over. What's the point ? If I don't like certain game, I won't bother playing it. Or at least I will give some time, learn the product and make decision after some time. No matter what anyone says Konami are heading in the right direction. For the first time since PS2 days people are having fun playing this game. I was one of them players who defended PES 5 but soon realized it was a mixture of simulation and arcade. PES 14 offers full sim and true 360 deg movement which eliminates ping-pong type of play that so many PES vet players are used to.

I also feel that PES 14 is suitable for somewhat more mature players as younger players tend to care more about boots, faces, menus, in game music etc. While those things do matter for any old school PES player the one thing that matters the most is GAMEPLAY and PES14 offers it. Also, lets be honest and realistic here. What would happen if companies made perfect video games, errors free ? How would they continue to make money and continue to improve product ? All of the negative stuff people list about PES 14 is easily fixable if Konami wanted it fixed. But what about PES 15 ? 16 ? Get my point....

Right so basically what you are saying is thst they keep holding back features to make us hopeful that theyll be included in the following year? you know wat? i agree. and it sucks