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I think the game has huge potential, but it's suffering from quite a few serious bugs or niggles.

- Goalkeeping is simply horrible, I can't recall having played a version of PES where there are more GK mistakes (never played 2013, mind you). Will upload footage from my last game in the video thread, two inexplicable goalkeeper mistakes in one half. Posted videos of it here;
http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=2786870#post2786870
- Player awareness and cursor changing just needs to be improved, absolutely have to be improved, for the game to feel better and flow more like real football.
- Navigating around menus are far too slow, and it's quite hard to actually see whichever option is currently highlighted.

On the plus side, the game will really make you struggle to create chances. You really need to build up your play patiently and play smart to create chances. There is simply a lot of potential in this game, it could become an absolute classic with the gameplay issues above sorted out. :)
 
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Anybody know how to install chants on PS3?!

Make a Playlist on your HD and call it WEPES2014. Then import via Edit, Teams, Crowd Support. You can add pretty much anything, lots of chant slots for a lot of various scenarios. On top of the 10 Team Chants, you can add another 5 for Derby Matches. And lots, lots more. Best yet by a mile, and you get to adjust volume of samples so they all match.

The audio on mine from the opening tunnel scene is bedlam, random and all very, very atmospheric. Loving it. :)
 
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Make a Playlist on your HD and call it WEPES2014. Then import via Edit, Teams, Crowd Support. You can add pretty much anything, lots of chant slots for a lot of various senarios. On top of the 10 Team Chants, you can add another 5 for Derby Matches. And lots, lots more. Best yet by a mile, and you get to adjust volume of samples so they all match.

The audio on mine from the opening tunnel scene on mine is bedlam, random and all very, very atmospheric. Loving it. :)

I created folder WEPES2014 in playlist on my HDD and put a lot of mp3 files. When i go to crowd support it's say not find files. WTF? In Pes 2013 works as well :RANT:
 
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Advanced through-balls with the target guide are way too easy, ridiculously easy in fact especially the lofted through-ball.

Could be easy to exploit online as even with 0 bar passing settings the other player can still use basic shot and advanced through-ball instead of zero assisted manual.

(Not that I can get a match online on the ps3 anyway!)
 
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For all ps3 users gtm pro world is about to launch his option file.

Looks like most kits have been done too

Get on it
 
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Also, I sussed how the new Heading system works and I really like it. Hold the Shoot button then aiming in the direction you want, but releasing the Shoot button just as you're about the connect is excellent. Kind of mimics the technical set-up of real-life. Not tried the Triangle downward header option yet. That's next on the list.

This is absolutely gold standard advice, I had scored a few from headers, but thought I would give this a go and I can see how it is going to improve my game. Scored a stereotypical backpost header with Ronaldo using this!

Love how everytime I play the game or come on here I learn something new. Took me a little while to appreciate the learning curve on this game, when was the last time a football game was changed so much that there was this type of "re-learning"?
 
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Has anyone figured out how heart affects your team. I have had some great games with keepers playing blinders, but then played as Juve and Buffon had a fooking mare. Silly mistakes and i figure it was because i was playing crap getting beat to every ball and was thinking this may be why he played so shite. Any takers?
 
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Question re. the dreaded Data Pack:

Is there a simple way for me to verify that the data pack has installed correctly and is in use by the game? I have had to use the Horizon method to add it as I cannot connect the 360 to the 'net at the moment. In the options screen it shows the game 'Version' as 1.01 (I installed the patch) and the 'Data Pack' as 1.00. Should the data pack be 1.01 instead?

Speaking of the patch (title update - 360), it definitely improves the gameplay a fair amount. I have only just installed it, and there's no way it is placebo. The reaction times are improved and it feels a bit more snappy - a bit more like PES 5 to me, which is never a bad thing. Just gave Norfolk City a 2-0 beating with West Glamorgan City, whoever the hell they both are. :FAIL:
 
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Has anyone figured out how heart affects your team. I have had some great games with keepers playing blinders, but then played as Juve and Buffon had a fooking mare. Silly mistakes and i figure it was because i was playing crap getting beat to every ball and was thinking this may be why he played so shite. Any takers?

I've turned that shenanigans off:NONO:
 
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Question re. the dreaded Data Pack:

Is there a simple way for me to verify that the data pack has installed correctly and is in use by the game? I have had to use the Horizon method to add it as I cannot connect the 360 to the 'net at the moment. In the options screen it shows the game 'Version' as 1.01 (I installed the patch) and the 'Data Pack' as 1.00. Should the data pack be 1.01 instead?
It's correct, as it's the first Data Pack released this year.
 
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Guys what do you think about passing system?

In my opinion it's very bad. Every pass aim the player and not the space (even in 1 bar assistance). Moreover power bar is inconsistent.

I don't feel the freedom like in old pes games such as pes 5 (best assisted passing system in my opinion) or pes 2011.
 
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This game is the dogs b's. I love it. You really have to work and the a.i on single player is great. Wheres the option to turn heart off?
 
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It's correct, as it's the first Data Pack released this year.

Not sure what you mean. You think '1.00' is correct? Does your Options screen show your data pack as '1.00'?

What changes does this 600MB data pack bring? It seems shrouded in secrecy.
 
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This game is the dogs b's. I love it. You really have to work and the a.i on single player is great. Wheres the option to turn heart off?

Eloquently put, my friend. I think the option to turn it off is on the same screen where you select the difficulty, stadium effects, match length etc. I think it's called 'Emotion' or something similar though.
 
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Guys what do you think about passing system?

In my opinion it's very bad. Every pass aim the player and not the space (even in 1 bar assistance). Moreover power bar is inconsistent.

I don't feel the freedom like in old pes games such as pes 5 (best assisted passing system in my opinion) or pes 2011.

Not sure quite what you mean, but even on 1 bar I can put a pass into free space if I want, i.e. no player is anywhere near it. Maybe you want the ball to go just in front of the player. It would be hard for the AI to determine whether you wanted it direct to the player or a bit in front. But shouldn't using the manual button modifier (L2/left trigger) allow you to put the pass exactly where you aim, i.e. no AI interference? Long story short the passing seems pretty good to me, but I'm no pro.
 
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Everyone about saying how can't score headers, here's a video of my mate in his second game i believe of playing the game and he mostly plays fifa ;)

Headers, first time shots in the box, and finesse shots are broken on manual shooting. I wish people would stop saying headers are working for them when they're not playing on manual.
 
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Has anyone figured out how heart affects your team. I have had some great games with keepers playing blinders, but then played as Juve and Buffon had a fooking mare. Silly mistakes and i figure it was because i was playing crap getting beat to every ball and was thinking this may be why he played so shite. Any takers?

Dunno, my keeper let in two awful goals where he should have comfortably saved but practically got out of the way of the ball. I checked and his form was green but heart was on blue. But that may have been because he'd let in two goals.
 
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Okay I'm loving this but two things are really annoying me at the moment. Firstly, I'm not actually getting much satisfaction from scoring, not like in previous versions of PES. Games on Top Player feel suitably difficult to just get a single shot on goal, but then when I randomly score it feels like the COM just gifted it to me. I won 2-0 as England v Czech Republic, and though I couldn't muster a shot on goal, I noticed Walcott was miles in the open, right down the middle. I'm talking twenty yards of space, both CB's had gone totally AWOL. I played an over hit pass that the keeper should have come out and got but he just stayed on his line. Walcott ended up scoring from about five yards out, just kind of felt like the COM was opening up and letting me score.

Second goal, Welbeck hit a shot through a defender's legs but went straight at the keeper, with not much power, and he just listfully stuck out a hand about half a foot to his side, like he couldn't be arsed, and let it strike him before going into the net.

Winning the game felt empty because I didn't feel like I'd worked for the goals at all, and it's not the first time it's happened either. Everything else feels great, but it's that sense of having to work for a goal that feels oddly missing.

Secondly, the audio. It's terrible. We all know the British commentary is bad but this is worse than usual. Hart saved a penalty and Champion just commented on it like he was bored. If fact, he didn't mention it at all until the ball had gone out of play when he casually spoke about a great chance being missed. No mention of the penalty save at all. Also, when you score a goal, the crowd audio isn't right at all either. Twice today I scored a goal and got no roar at all just really loud applause like a team was excited for winning a corner or something.
 
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I agree ST, I'm not enjoying my goals either. Part of that is being forced to play on basic shooting due to manual not working, which makes it way too easy. Secondly, you're right, a lot of chances don't seem to come about organically. It seems like you're getting opportunities thanks to the AI and not your own work.

I'm really torn this year because PES is closer to being the football game I want, but Fifa's polish in comparison is very appealing.
 
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Nice. I likey GTM.

Same, and I love it! Its a real shame that the emblems are stretched out (Not his fault) and they & kits take ages to load this year. Especially a team with 4 kits. It even glitches going through the 4. Example with Borussia Dortmund.

1st kit is Home, 2nd away, 3rd is third and 4th is CL.

If I say select away, then go to home, its still the away kit. I have to back out, go back in then it starts to load the home kit.
 
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Headers, first time shots in the box, and finesse shots are broken on manual shooting. I wish people would stop saying headers are working for them when they're not playing on manual.

I said my mate, but regards to shooting on manual, first time headers and shots i've did a few times as i dable between advanced and manual mainly. It's not broken, it's peoples excuse not to learn the game and i don't know how that's possible for people to apparently know the game inside out while its only been out 2 days (at least here). Practice makes perfect.
 
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Secondly, the audio. It's terrible. We all know the British commentary is bad but this is worse than usual. Hart saved a penalty and Champion just commented on it like he was bored. If fact, he didn't mention it at all until the ball had gone out of play when he casually spoke about a great chance being missed. No mention of the penalty save at all.

Just do what I do and turn it off.

To each their own, and all that, but I've never understood the obsession with commentary in football games. Unless it's done to the benchmark standard of NBA2K then it will always get repetitive and boring, even if it is well scripted.

I don't really need to listen to two blokes talking shit while I'm playing. I prefer to feel like I'm in the stadium watching the game rather than watching it on TV.
 
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If you exclude the bugs, there is such a gigantic difference in the quality of keepers on this game. More that I've seen in any football game, conceded this typical PES goal vs Lille from Kalou, everything about it said football.

Kalou, picks up a lose ball runs at my midfielder, weighing up his options, Roux his team mate makes a dummy run outside of him, he then looked to cut inside, found a bit of space, just outside the area he though he'd have a go them, bam, my keeper got a hand to it but not enough to stop it going in.

I was shocked, i gave a little too much space but didn't do anything too badly wrong, it was 70% a great goal, 30% a better keeper could've done better. After playing with Juventus in a champions league tournament i know how brilliant a keeper can be.

Good times ahead people!
 
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played 2 vs 2 games a whole day yesterday, and its an arcade spring fest with bouncing players to each other, mr marketing bullshit konami, "another company who is all about the money dadada..."
 
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