PES 2012 Football Life thread

xPJRx said:
what i found with the defaults was that i immediately thouyght they handled and played alot better than in previous games, but then as i settled in, you realise its all balanced out, the defaults are better but up against all the other teams, they are dogshit.
Its mainly the agility, turning and dribbling stats that you notice, some defaults have a cracking shot, in my first season Guiterrez scored 14 goals, but the sooner you can move them on the better.
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It's everything, even down to things like rebounds and successful outcomes to 50/50 balls. They fall in favour at times of the stronger players. It's artistic licence, it's a way of portraying the end result of what happens on a football pitch in real-life for the most part. Gerrard is consistently stronger in winning balls in real-life, it's his consistency the defines him. That's mirrored here, even though it can look 'scripted'. It is what it is.

Good luck with that Tom by the way, I fear you'll still be trying by the time PES 2013 is launched. As will I. :CONFUSE:

Edit - I was given the Ultimatum last night from my Chairman, win my next game or I'm out. It was pre-season friendly as well, FFS. He wants someone else in before the new season even starts. :CONFUSE: Thankfully I won 1-0, and I have, and I quote 'A stay of execution'. Oh dear, talk about pressure...............
 
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Ern Dog said:
Jimmy..... You will be made to eat your words! I plan on winning the Championship with these guys.
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:D You'll need the players with good development curves to do this :)

I've got similar agenda too, but I filled my team with 1st season youth team members mostly and released most of the Default ML squad. If you'd like, I could send you a PM with the list of hidden gems in 1st season youth team when it comes to development curves.

Oh, and don't sell Shimizu :) ... yes, he can't shoot, but where are you going to get a replacement with his pace and tenacity? Use him as a winger/RMF. And his FK/curling combo makes him lethal from 'floater' FK range
 
He's a little bitch, give him the Number 13 shirt, I did. That'll piss the little prick off, and make him as Purple as the bellend on his neck.
 
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I know :)

But you can't actually blame him ... or his digital persona. Konami made it to simple this year - player with highest overall rating in team is simply programmed to whine about No. 10

I saw video with Udinese in ML ... Armero had the highest rating in the team, about 86 or so in LB position. And guess who knocked at the door with 'gimme no. 10' request? Pablo fucking Armero, the polar opposite of the classic No. 10 material
 
zlac said:
I know :)

But you can't actually blame him ... or his digital persona. Konami made it to simple this year - player with highest overall rating in team is simply programmed to whine about No. 10

I saw video with Udinese in ML ... Armero had the highest rating in the team, about 86 or so in LB position. And guess who knocked at the door with 'gimme no. 10' request? Pablo fucking Armero, the polar opposite of the classic No. 10 material
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The funny thing is, I've always whined like a little bitch if I didn't secure the No.10 top in real-life, no matter which team I was at, Northern League or Sunday League. The problem is, there is always at least one or two equally good players that always seemed to feel the same way. More often than not though I got it. Call it superstition, whatever, but I genuinely always felt better playing in that number.
 
Jimmy G-Force said:
He's a little bitch, give him the Number 13 shirt, I did. That'll piss the little prick off, and make him as Purple as the bellend on his neck.
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PMSL !!!!! i had that off Shimizu too - i gave him it and the little prick still whined, i sold him that season.

And Jimmy... dont mean to piss on your fire but even if you had lost your do-or-die game, you still wouldnt have been sacked, it happened to me.
You get a good 2 or 3 warnings regardless of results.

heres a vid i made of it at the time:

YouTube - Master League Scare
 
So 5 games in with napoli starting to get the hang of superstar although I dont think it will ever truly be mastered. Just 2 defeats in 13 now my best record yet. Managed to beat Juve at home and then infuriatingly lost to novara 1-0, I tried to dominate possession high up the pitch which is all well and good if your passing is on song(mine wasn't) and they duly punished me on the counter, this tactic is effective against defensive teams but you have be careful in possession.

With 0 pass assist you have to be really firm yet precise on the analog, same with the manual modifier but fuck me its a real challenge to create chances. Since switching to 13 player support and 10 support range opening the AI up more though, since reducing pressure and being more careful with positioning noticed more sideways and backwards passing from the AI(thank fuck).
 
xPJRx said:
PMSL !!!!! i had that off Shimizu too - i gave him it and the little prick still whined, i sold him that season.

And Jimmy... dont mean to piss on your fire but even if you had lost your do-or-die game, you still wouldnt have been sacked, it happened to me.
You get a good 2 or 3 warnings regardless of results.

heres a vid i made of it at the time:

YouTube - Master League Scare
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:LOL:

Yeah, I know you get a few warnings, I had them with Bolton before I eventually got sacked. Although, that was mainly down to the fact I Bankrupted the club after only a month in charge. :CONFUSE:

I didn't mention the extra warnings just in case people hadn't had them, thankfully, they can now look to you to blame for spoiling their suspense. ;)

As for the tackle for the CPU goal, there was fuck all wrong with that, it's a man's game, what's the matter with ya ? :LOL:
 
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Jimmy G-Force said:
:LOL:

I didn't mention the extra warnings just in case people hadn't had them, thankfully, they can now look to you to blame for spoiling their suspense. ;)

As for the tackle for the CPU goal, there was fuck all wrong with that, it's a man's game, what's the matter with ya ? :LOL:
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Nevermind, people have been playing PES long enough know to probably know about it anyway ;-)

Have you seen the cutscene you get when you sign a player rated 90OVR or higher with a Worldwide reputation???
If not, i'll keep quiet.

As for the tackle.... I love a gritty hard physical game but that was bordering on assault!!! :P
 
guys, who do u reccomend i should sign for my newly appointed Watford team in division 2 bearing in mind that i cant change my scout until season starts.

so far i have got Kevin Phillips on loan.
Anthony Gerrard for around 700k
and some other guy who i will post later who is a SS with a classic 10 number and he is 68 overall i think and quite young.

I am also looking to get Shelvey on loan and also buy Park chu-young.

ANy suggestions for who i should buy??

bearing in mind that most people do let me down because of my rubbish scout and i havent got many funds so it has to be ppl who i can get on the cheap as i only have 900k expected earnings.
 
Suarez x7 said:
Btw what happens if i spend more than my expected earnings in the start of football life ??
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I have managed to equal my points haul of the first 19 games in the first 6 of the second half of the season. Would of had 2 more but I gave a penalty away to Southhampton in the 91st min in my last game :DOH:.
I brought in Zarate from the youth team, rubbish stats but a good player, funny how that works. Hes got 2 in 3 and looks like a very clinical finisher.
 
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xPJRx said:
PMSL !!!!! i had that off Shimizu too - i gave him it and the little prick still whined, i sold him that season.

And Jimmy... dont mean to piss on your fire but even if you had lost your do-or-die game, you still wouldnt have been sacked, it happened to me.
You get a good 2 or 3 warnings regardless of results.

heres a vid i made of it at the time:

YouTube - Master League Scare
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Before the game, when threatened to lose your job, you had no hair. Then after the match you won you magically gained all the hair back? :LOL:
 
All my squad has had their teamwork stat reset to 1, it can't be moral related as I've just gone on a long unbeaten run.

I made one signing in January (now March), so I don't see why it should be like this. Is this a bug or what?
 
I know right, strange, anyhow I switched training to 'Strategy' for a week and they're now all in the low 40s. Admittedly I've neglected strategy training for the entire season, but I cant work out how it'd have deteriorated to that extent. Just a bug I guess, oh well.


Shimizu is still a little genius for me. His impossible acceleration just lets him glide through the tightest of spots, constantly takes the piss out of D2 defenders.

Right now I'm 3rd after a colossal win-streak, had about 7 successive 1-0s. Think I'd be enjoying the game more if the AI was tighter in midfield, but it's passable at the moment.
 
dannyfc2 said:
I know right, strange, anyhow I switched training to 'Strategy' for a week and they're now all in the low 40s. Admittedly I've neglected strategy training for the entire season, but I cant work out how it'd have deteriorated to that extent. Just a bug I guess, oh well.
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Do we have any confirmation of this: that putting training on Strategy increases Teamwork Stats? Sweet Lord! Why do we have to learn everything about this game the hard way...
 
After 4 months, lots of sweat and tears staring to click with superstar, for me it has to be played at -2 15 minute matches to fully appreciate it. Currently lie in 5th with napoli only 3 points of the CL places, cavani is starting to hit form and we have the best defence in the league. Came back from 2-1 down to beat milan 3-2 and just beat lecce 5-2 to start the second half of the season in style. Changing my defensive game and focusing more on tactics have worked wonders, this tactic is working well at the moment

Player support - 14
Support range - 11
Pos switch - 0
Attacking style - 8
Pressing - 8
Defensive line - 12
Compactness - 12
 
im gettin loads of offers for shimizu (ovr 80 age 19), for like 500k but i feel like it is too small. How much shall i sell him for ??

ALso im thinking of buying Beckford for around 500k due to not many other people wanting to join watford.
i used psd stats for him which make him over 70, but if u look at his actual stats their decieving.
http://pesstatsdatabase.com/PSD/Player.php?Id=187&Club=467

Is he worth it, seeing as how i am 1.2 mill, and expected earning of 2 mill debt ??
 
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You're somewhere in the middle of the first season in Div2?

Expected earnings aren't quite accurate throughout the season. You'll get more money which isn't yet taken into account, before salaries for current season have to be paid (end of August, first month in NEXT season):
- merchandise sales - twice per season, but in Div2 ... peanuts
- sponsor contracts
- home match ticket revenues
- competition prize money - depends how far you got in the cup, where you finished in the league - again, peanuts while in Div2, unless you get promoted - then we're talking about 1 million figure

You could cover your debt, I suppose ... is it really -2m or -800k (1.2m - 2m)? If it is the latter, you probably won't have to sell anyone. If it is the former .... then it could be difficult.

What's the situation with your sponsors? You've got like 3 of them, each worth about 400-450k? That's cca. 1.3m to add to your current balance.

I wouldn't buy players right now if I were you, wait for the end of the season - you'll have much clearer picture when all the extra funds flow in. And only 500k for Shimizu is really peanuts - he develops a lot and will be worth much, much more if you hold on to him.
 
So, match-day 34, last game of the D2 season.

I currently sit in 4th place, one point behind 3rd.....who as it happens are my next opponent. Basically, a win secures promotion, a draw/lose results in another season in D2.

Time to step-up Shimizu :COOL:

Larsen Toure also has a shot at the golden boot. He's on 15 in 22 appearances right now.
 
UTD-PEARSON said:
After 4 months, lots of sweat and tears staring to click with superstar, for me it has to be played at -2 15 minute matches to fully appreciate it. Currently lie in 5th with napoli only 3 points of the CL places, cavani is starting to hit form and we have the best defence in the league. Came back from 2-1 down to beat milan 3-2 and just beat lecce 5-2 to start the second half of the season in style. Changing my defensive game and focusing more on tactics have worked wonders, this tactic is working well at the moment

Player support - 14
Support range - 11
Pos switch - 0
Attacking style - 8
Pressing - 8
Defensive line - 12
Compactness - 12
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How do you line up with these tactics? What formation? Is it two strikers with such high support? Player support at 14 makes me nervous; do you play two DMFs to help out in the back therefore? What is your idea with the zero player switch? I suspect with player support so high you might be trying to keep things sane in the back...
 
I think having player support too high can be counter-productive, you end up just forcing the opposition to camp in their own box. I leave it on normal to draw them out and give a bit more space to maneuver.
 
7-13 is 'Normal'. Anything above 13 is 'Offensive', and less than 7 'Defensive'.

I tinker mine depending on who I'm playing, for instance if I'm up against two DM's, I'll have to play a lot wider to break them down.

Generally I use similar ones to UTD-PEARSON though;

Player support - 13
Support range - 11
Pos switch - 0
Attacking style - 9
Pressing - 12
Defensive line - 12
Compactness - 10

I used to ramp up Compactness, but I found it just creates really counter-attacking orientated game, so I've toned it down for a more patient build up.

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For the first time since I got the game I have set about on a proper master league campaign.

I have noticed that when you start the master league, for some reason, probably to make it more of a challange your players have about 3 or 4 points knocked off each stat behind the scenes. For this reason, to get the game to feel like it does in exhibition mode, I picked a top team. This meant the game felt fluid. I know I could have picked a smaller team and build them up, but after spending so long getting the game to where I wanted it, I wanted that game play. I also wanted a team with a decent looking and playing stadium.

I also mix teams around, so that each game in my division is against top opposition, whilst also keeping the other leagues filled with some big teams for the purpose of european cup games. Games for the most part are played on +1 as I find the game is smoother, though some stadiums, this is dropped to 0

So I pick Milan and in my league are teams like Juventus, Man Utd, Porto, Sporting, Inter, Leverkusen, Munich, Roma etc. I also choose to put these teams in the premier league for more day time kick offs.

I started on Superstar and quickly dropped down to Top Player after my first few games. On Top Player I found it very challanging as the game is already, but with my stat edits it even more difficult. The game on this level is very realistic. I have to fight for every chance and in some games I literally have none or one sight of goal all game. The problems that some say they see with shooting look like they are there as most of my shots come from being straight on at goal outside the box, as other opportunities are too tight to work a chance.

I play games against Juventus and Man Utd and draw both games after having to play out of my skin, but really enjoy them, so much so I play them again and again and after the 5th time, I realise I am averaging something like 2 shots a game. This is already after a poor start to the season on Superstar. At this point I drop the game down to Professional and suddenly I am getting chances and games are opening up.

First game on professional is against Parma away. It's a good game, in which they battered me for a while before I let in an own goal after an excellent run from one of their players. In the second half I make a couple of tactical changes and play much better, Imbrohomivic sends two defenders the wrong way using R2 to leave him in loads of room to slot home, then Robinho puts one in the top corner after fighting of pressure and then Boateng hits the bar with screamer.

(it's my firts attempt at putting these up, the quality will improve at some point I hope)
Highlights -
YouTube - Parma Milan

Next up I play Stutgart and I go behind to a sloppy goal, Imbrohimivic nearly gets an over-head kick then in the second half I equalise through some great control and a volley from Gattuso. It's a tight game and I would be happy with the point, but in injury time I get a corner and without realising it send Abbiati up for it and unbelievably he scores a volley.

Highlights
YouTube - MIlan Stutgart

Next game is champions league against Stoke! It's a game in which I score early and then the game decends into a kicking match which Milan pulled down to Stokes level after missing a few chances. In the end their long ball tactics pay off when a massive punt up field finds Fuller, who crosses for Crouch to score. The games looks like it's going to be a draw, when Pinto, my only signing so far, grabs a winner just managing to avoid three defenders sliding in on him

YouTube - Milan Stoke
 
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