I don't see anything to match here.I'm sure 2K can make a game light years ahead of PES and FIFA in one year.
I'd love to see them try, we need more football games! If they started now, it would take them years and years! good, 3-4 years to get to a decent level! But just offer something different
Been looking at NBA 2k12. Clearly a amazing game, no doubt about it but people are quite badly objective when comparing NBA2K to FIFA and PES. PES2012gbg as usual with little overall perspective and just criticizing without putting too much through into his argument.
2K are a good company in my book, better than the crooks at EA, have more financial power than Konami and are more in touch with the westernized sports, in terms of getting the atmosphere right with current events. Thing is, look at their sports games.
It's ok to moderately compare sports games, NBA games from 2k are brilliant. however
- Their Ice hockey game has been shit, and really shit since 08 apparently. it's a very, very flawed game from what i hear.
- Top Spin is a game i like and a good game also but, quite very flawed again and robotic. yes they move realistically but eh way they maneuver across the court and the transitions seem a bit too robo like. Even if it's a pretty 'deep' game. It's flawed in that the power stat is too effective, way too effective.
- They have a baseball game, i don't know too much about that but i dosen't seem to be anything special.
Now in the past they used to also produce a great NFL game which got cancelled because those crooks at EA brought the exclusive license. So i think they have potential to offer us something good, but unlike this naivety I'm seeing here i don't expect miracles or a near flawless NBA2k esque game.
People lose perspective on how different basketball is compared to football, and also the content of both games.
There's more variables in football compared to Basketball and the nature of each sports are much different and i feel Football is harder to encapsulate. Firstly, basketball games don't have to worry about balancing the game and every function to represent a 90 minute match due to time limit of 10, 15, 20 minutes. People will be content to have low scoring games because of short time limits and there's no thought of making shooting easier because of time length to get those 89-96 scorelines etc, or dubbing down parts to get baskets..
Both FIFA and PES have to deliver gameplay which represent the entire globe of football and every style which is played, they have to represent attacking styled football, defensive, counter attacking, possession, sow football, fast football and the tons of variables, personalities and individuality for for it's teams. 2K just have to give representation to the NBA, they don't have to worry about European or South American Basketball. it's all condensed into just one league which gives them endless exclusive content while the other two have a battle just to retain and keep all their licensed.
FIFA and PES both have well over I'd say 200 teams. i think FIFA usually has say 350 or more. In a variety of different leagues with different licenses attached to them.
NBA 2k has just 30 NBA teams, plus for this year 36 classic teams, i mean look at this before hand when there where less classic teams, they have FULL NBA backing and licensing and have just 30 teams to cater for? All which fit into the same franchise so the amazing commentary can be easily updated with NO limits like in PES where they can't say Arsenal because they have no license or discuss anything about unlicensed teams and players playing for those teams.
I'm not making any excuses for PES shit commentary over the years btw, in fact my point is that EA really do their best to provide great commentary, they can't really do much more.
As you can see I'm taking nothing away from 2k here, i mean even when you consider these things it's a better game than PES and FIFA but not by millions of miles like people are naively saying here without perspective. Also, this company is good but not everything it touches turns to gold like i said before. It's never created a football game before, so it needs to not just get the funding and full backing but collect a team together, get licenses and work with pro footballers, mangers to build a foundation. Some people think this is just a walk in the park and it's easy, i mean, I'm getting criticized for being biased but look at the poor perspective people have in some of their cynical arguments!
PES needs a better atmosphere an the NBA series is an example of what can be represented but, there's no need to show them that, fuck, show them virtual striker 3/4 on the PS2 which had better crowd animation, banners, flags and colours. The sound, Konami needs to extent it's operations and hire a third party European company to handle all the sound, and the animations could be better, more variety but really just making sure the right solid movements are in. We all know FIFA's continuous flaws.
My argument here is, get some realistic perspective and make sure you argument is reasonable. Really! 2KSports just roll up in and create a perfect football game, you guys need to get real. I'd like to see something from them but i don't expect it to be amazing until at least the 4th edition in the series or so. Not just for this subject but in general. There's a few too many people with these half baked views running around thinking they are experts!
I'm probably going to get criticized again for stating this, if someone says i'm being biased, i think I'll just leave you all to it to be honest.