Re: PES 2009 News, Discussion and Rumours
Jamezinho, do you think it's a cooincidence that people who PLAYED the game ( = got the feel of it ) are pretty positive and some people who only watched the video sometimes did think it was like PES 2008??
In fact, I become a bit tired from all people who said it's like PES 2008. They obviously did not read ( or heared from the podcast ) that the game certainly does not feel as arcadey as PES 2008, rather as simulation-like the PES 5, which is a BIG difference, almost the opposite!
So you are saying that the way the game "feels" and the way it looks on videos is something completely different?
I can only speak for myself here, but very little of my criticism for PES2008 had anything to do with how my button pressed translated into the action onscreen (what would constitute the "feel" of the game).
The complaints I did have in that area were for example:
1. Passes would sometimes not be aimed at the player you wanted but instead went into nomansland.
2. Players would be sluggish in certain situations to react to the input
3. Players would sometimes run between the opponent and the ball, and not attempt to contact the ball at all, but just continue running as if he isn't aware he could have easily intercepted the ball.
Other than that, all my complaints had to do with the way the game looked, what animations were executed in certain situations, the way the players looked to be shuffling a heavy rock with their feet whenever they made a slight direction change with the ball, the way the goalkeeper animations looked like, etc.
I am one of the people who love PES5/WE9LE, and that has surprisingly little to do with the pace and small things (that supposedly have changed in PES2009, causing some to proclaim it's like PES5).
What I like about PES5 is the look of the animations for players, goalkeepers, shots, passes, crosses, etc etc. I also have very few complaints about animations being wrong for the situation they are used in. In PES2008 they had soft, worthless shot animations when facing 90 degrees from goal, when in reality (and in PES5) you would just twist in the shot animation and easily get a good hard laces shot off, which simply didn't happen in PES2008). Someone posted a Youtube video from Sneijders Euro08 goal which was a good example).
I just don't like the look of PES2009, the way players do the basic movements like running and changing directions, passing, shooting.
A good example would be in PES5, if you were running full speed and turned 90 degrees. The player would shuffle the ball in the direction with his foot, but then would take a couple of steps to turn himself and fight against the momentum pulling him in the direction he was running, before being able to control the ball again. I miss those types of realistic touches. Now if you run full speed and turn 90 degrees the player just turns 90 degrees flat without loosing much speed, and without even drifting to the side slightly as he fights the centrifugal force when turning. The animations seemingly have been designed without considering realistic aspects, and instead are designed to be not too slow or bothersome for the gamer.
I don't like that kind of thinking, and it's got little to do with the general pace of the game, or how accurately the game executes your gamepad inputs.
So, for me when I say I would like a touched up PES5 with next-gen graphics, I mean just that.
I do not mean I want a game that plays sort of the same tempo as PES, but with different animations, simplified kinetics when moving, goalkeepers that are animated entirely different, etc. Insinuating that is the case, would be to oversimplify the subject quite a bit in my honest opinion.
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