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beachryan said:
I'm not trying to be mean, but why would Guardiola - who just left Barca to take a break and get away from pressure and expectations - want to join Liverpool?

Capello seems a great fit.
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Only reason i could imagine is if they have the same team at barca, they have the youth and seem to want the director so it might be a nice fit for guardiola. Other than that not a lot. As for Capello, a lot might be determind by saturday. He has said he wants a top4 side in the CL, if chelsea don't win they aren't much better off than Liverpool.
 
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jackarmy said:
THANK GOD FOR THAT! :SMUG:
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keith costigan ‏@KeithCostigan
Apparently Rodgers WOULD accept the @LFC job if offered. Turned down an interview. Not the job

;)

Can't see Rodgers getting it, personally. Not sure how serious they are about Martinez either.
 
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It is worrying that so far the only confirmed people are Martinez and Rodgers. Or maybe the others / clubs know how to keep their mouth shut.
 
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TikTikTikTikTik said:
It is worrying that so far the only confirmed people are Martinez and Rodgers. Or maybe the others / clubs know how to keep their mouth shut.
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Martinez is mainly down to Dave Whelan wanting some time in the spotlight, and trying to drive up the compensation package if we do go for Martinez. As you say, I imagine the others are keeping quiet.

Either that or it's all a smokescreen and Martinez and Rodgers are the only two in mind for FSG.
 
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Can someone please tell me what exactly has Martinez done?
 
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Rodgers is out of the running....

I can't imagine they are going after Rodgers or Martinez...

They must be talking to others as well.

Even when they sacked Hodgson, they had Dalglish in mind already.

AVB is out of the running for Roma who are going for Montella.
 
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A very significant article in the Echo, where Ian Ayre ssets out the vision going forward:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...ision-for-club-says-ian-ayre-100252-30994586/


Liverpool FC sacking Kenny Dalglish was right move to let owners realise vision for club, says Ian Ayre

by James Pearce, Liverpool Echo
May 18 2012

IAN AYRE insists the sacking of Kenny Dalglish was necessary to enable Fenway Sports Group to realise their vision for Liverpool FC.

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The Reds’ managing director has leapt to the owners’ defence in the face of criticism from supporters following the end of Dalglish’s 16-month reign on Wednesday.

Ayre revealed not even winning the FA Cup would have saved the Anfield legend as the club’s lowly eighth-placed finish in the Premier League ultimately made terminating his contract “a very simple decision” by FSG, who had targeted Champions League qualification.

He also dismissed talk of a crisis following the recent departure of so many high-profile officials which has left Liverpool with no manager, no director of football, no head of sports science, no commercial director and no head of communications.

Ayre, whose own future is secure after recently penning a new contract, says the cull is over and plans are well advanced to install a new structure at Anfield.

The search for the Reds’ fourth manager in two years is gathering pace and various other appointments will be confirmed by the end of the month.

“There are no plans to fire anyone else,” Ayre confirmed. “It was just part of a process. It is all part of wanting to get it right. The natural break point is at the end of a season. That is the time when you take stock of what people have achieved or what they haven’t achieved within a period.

“This view that there is a crisis and everyone is leaving is wrong, it’s just a time based thing. When anyone leaves you have to go through the process of finding a replacement and moving forward.

“It’s fair to say we are fairly imminent on a lot of positions that have exited. What you will see over the next two weeks is those new people arriving and a momentum of going forward.

“There will be new people arriving with new energy and new initiatives. For all the negativity that has existed in the last six to eight weeks, you will see a lot of positivity around the new appointments with their experience and what they will deliver.”

Director of football Damien Comolli, who was dismissed last month, won’t be directly replaced. FSG have come to the conclusion that his job, overseeing travel, medical care, scouting, player analysis and recruitment, was too wide-ranging. Instead those duties will be spread out and a number of new roles created.

Internal candidates are also being considered and could lead to more senior positions for highly-respected Academy duo Pep Segura and Rodolfo Borrell.

“The idea is rather than one person being responsible for all the elements Damien’s role took on, we will divide up the responsibilities,” Ayre said. “We will have a slightly different structure so there will be two or three positions within that. Running a big football club is a big challenge. It’s evident we need to focus on each area with a specialist who will deliver value in each area.”

The manager’s role will also change. FSG want Dalglish’s successor to be devoted solely to coaching, although he will still have the final say on signings. That kind of model rules out any possible return to the Anfield hot-seat for former manager Rafa Benitez.

Ayre says lessons have been learned from the damaging Luis Suarez-Patrice Evra race row which Dalglish was left to deal with publicly. The Scot was heavily criticised for his fierce defence of the striker in the wake of the FA’s guilty verdict.

“As is always the case when you have a difficult situation, it highlights the shortcomings and issues around certain areas. Did we learn from the Suarez thing? Did we get some things wrong? Of course.

“But you move on. The important thing is you take the things that you get wrong and build to not get those things wrong again.

“I wouldn’t go as far as to say the manager’s job will only be a training ground role but absolutely the idea is to create a structure so that the manager doesn’t need to focus on too much else.


“You want the manager to be focused on getting the best out of his team. But what it absolutely isn’t about is bringing players in without the manager’s input.

“In the past a manager would be going to look at 20 or 30 different games just to find one player. Whereas with the right structure someone lines all of that up and the manager is just going to the final interview.

“We are trying to create as much resource and expertise in all the areas that serve the manager and the team rather than having one or two people trying to achieve everything. We not looking to copy any other club. It will have Liverpool’s own stamp and structure on it.”

Ayre will be handed more responsibility himself running the club on a day to day basis, while a new commercial chief, replacing Graham Bartlett who left in March, will be brought in to assist the MD.

“I’m the person here responsible for running the football club. I welcome that challenge and I’ll do the best job I can do,” Ayre said.

“What’s important is we’ve got the right structure to run the club in the right way. One of the announcements we will make in the next week or so will be about someone working with me to continue delivering the important revenue streams.

“We’ve done very well in growing our revenue in the last four or five years but it’s important to keep building on it.”

It was revenue streams which ultimately proved Dalglish’s undoing. Despite winning the Carling Cup and reaching the FA Cup final, the Reds’ failure to finish in the top four in the Premier League meant the club missed out on a potential windfall of around £40million from Champions League qualification.

“It was a very simple decision based on results and did we believe that was going to change,” Ayre said. “To be 37 points off the winner, 17 points off fourth, 14 losses…..

“Winning the FA Cup wouldn’t have made any difference – it was never about an individual result. It was always about taking a review of the season in full.

“The Carling Cup and The FA Cup don’t generate the revenue and the success that is needed to keep investing. If you want to be successful, you have got to keep investing. People don’t want to hear that football is a business. They want to see us put lots of money into the football team and win lots of trophies and games.

“But you have got to have both. You have got to have continued progress in the league. If you don’t do well in the league and you don’t get into the Champions League, you are writing cheques from your own pocket, aren’t you? That is not a sustainable way going forward.

“Kenny said publicly he thought it had been handled with dignity. Nobody was treated badly in this process.

“I agree you can’t keep changing (managers) and as long as what you expect in terms of moving forwards is achieved, of course you give that person the time and support they need. But there is a difference between that and failure. If you massively get it wrong then of course you have to make that change. You expect targets to be achieved.

“For the owners it’s been a process of bedding in, understanding and reviewing the entire structure of the business. We hope the people who come in as part of this new plan are there for the long term. What’s coming together now we believe is the way forward.”


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Quite a few significant changes:

The Manager becomes a Coach, no Director of Football, Indivdual ares of responsibility delegated to managers which means promotion for Rodolfo and Pep!

This will have a considerable influence on who might be selected as the new manager.
 
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besarti said:
Yh he could be excellent for a few matches and then we would end up like Inter, he lacks consistency and the basic tactics of the game.
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Inter problems have nothing to do with Ranieri. It is normal squad that overachieved with Mourinho and after he left some players like Maicon or Sneijder decreased their form and another ones just showed their true level like Milito for example.
The fact that 4 consecutive managers were sacked from Inter in 1 year and a half shows that the problem is the squad and not the manager.
 
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Michael Laudrup is also on the shortlist apparently...
he is a bit inexperienced....but has 1 Danish league title with Brondby
and had some success with Getafe using very good attacking football

I think FSG will have to settle for Rafa in the end :-)
He's probably the only high-profile manager who will be willing to come.

Klopp has just said he's going nowhere.....
Guardiola...no chance....
Capello....well he prefers Chelsea.....he even has a house there.
Van Gaal would be too old.....
 
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mathewsss said:
Michael Laudrup is also on the shortlist apparently...
he is a bit inexperienced....but has 1 Danish league title with Brondby
and had some success with Getafe using very good attacking football

I think FSG will have to settle for Rafa in the end :-)
He's probably the only high-profile manager who will be willing to come.

Klopp has just said he's going nowhere.....
Guardiola...no chance....
Capello....well he prefers Chelsea.....he even has a house there.
Van Gaal would be too old.....
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AVB will take the job:BOP:
 
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goalgerd said:
AVB will take the job:BOP:
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The telegraph indicates that he has been contacted...

I would be happy with AVB......if he is given the freedom
to make the changes to the team without any senior players undermining
him.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ers-and-Jurgen-Klopp-rule-themselves-out.html

If AVB does not work, it could be Rafa

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/18/liverpool-andre-villas-boas-rafael-benitez
 
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Please bring him back this wizard :DD

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Andre Villas-Boas will this weekend be interviewed for the vacant managerial post at Liverpool.

Villas-Boas, who has been out of work since losing the Chelsea job in March, fits the criteria of the Liverpool owners as they target a young coach who can remain in the job long-term. Wigan manager Roberto Martinez, 38, also remains in the frame for the post.

ESPN sources have also revealed that Liverpool plan to approach Pep Guardiola via Luis Suarez's agent, who is the outgoing Barcelona coach's brother. Even so, they recognise that the 41-year-old is a long shot, considering he has already rejected Chelsea's overtures and remains insistent that he will take a year's sabbatical.

Fenway Sports Group's 'long list' of ten candidates does include older managers, and former England boss Fabio Capello, 65, may be sounded out. Rafael Benitez is not on that list "for the time being" but he might eventually be included, if some of the prime candidates fall by the wayside, and it is ESPN's understanding that he has registered his interest in the post.

Marseille's Didier Deschamps, Ajax's Frank de Boer and Netherlands coach Bert van Marwijk are also on the long list, but Swansea manager Brendan Rodgers and Borussia Dortmund's Jurgen Klopp - who led his side to a league and cup double this season - have both turned down the chance to be interviewed.
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I'm not sure Rafa should be back. You guys already have something similar happen with Dalglish's "return" and look how it ended. You really do not want another "return". Thank Rafa for what he's done and move on.

A very good young manager isn't a bad idea at all.
 
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depends of the fact if the owners want the club to have instant success or view this as long term plan to rebuild whole brand of LFC...
 
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Well unless they're willing to spend City amounts of money on new players then FSG aren't gonna get instant success.
 
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matherto said:
To be fair, alienating Gerrard and Carragher wouldn't be a bad thing. They're both way past it.
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He probably did not do it the right way....like a bulldozer in a china shop.
it did not help Chelsea at all....see how they're transformed under Di Matteo.
 
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The problem at chelsea though was that most of the 1st team are old; Lampard, Drogba, Terry, Cole, Essien, Malouda, Ivanovic, Cech and even Torres has shown an ego in his comments. Mata, Cahill and couple of youngsters have nothing to say.

With liverpool it would be Gerrard. Carra has shown enough this season to accept it imo, and Kuyt is very professional and would except it aswell imo. Not really sure who else would work against AVB and his style. Assuming Gerrard would work against him, which I can't see based on style, maybe if he gets benched like Lampard it would be more of an issue.
 
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For me it has to be AVB or Rafa....

no point in any of the others.....who are either too inexperienced
or too old...

Rafa still has another 10 years in him.....and let's face it...was the manager
who established us in the European elite....carrying on the good work of Houllier.

AVB has the potential and winning experience...

Both have recent sackings as negatives.....but they are the best
choices out there..
 
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