Liverpool Thread
- Thread starter Misfit
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- 27 September 2007
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- Manchester United
Re: Liverpool Thread
Fantastic compilation of Torres during his time at Liverpool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGmxWT2AP8g
A great watch. Reminds me what a player Rafa has bought, and what a player he's turned Torres into. 20M does sound like peanuts now doesn't it
Fantastic compilation of Torres during his time at Liverpool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGmxWT2AP8g
A great watch. Reminds me what a player Rafa has bought, and what a player he's turned Torres into. 20M does sound like peanuts now doesn't it
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DagsJT
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Re: Liverpool Thread
LIVERPOOL co-owner George Gillett today admitted his partnership with Tom Hicks had completely broken down and was beyond repair.
And he told of the death threats he and his family had been receiving from fans amid the ongoing controversy surrounding Anfield.
Gillett revealed he had also recently offered Hicks the chance to buy out his half share in the Reds but that he had run out of time.
He also declared that Hicks had tried to veto him selling to Dubai International Capital – whom he said would make ‘very responsible owners’ of the trouble-torn club.
The Dubai company has already had a recent £400m bid for Anfield turned down by Hicks, who insists he is not interested in selling his stake.
Gillett spoke at length for the first time of the crisis at Anfield in an interview with radio station Fan590 in Canada, where he admitted he may now pursue an interest in establishing a soccer club in Montreal which would play in America’s MLS.
The owner of the Montreal Canadiens ice hockey team did not reveal what he planned to do with his half share of Liverpool now, but said there were ‘pieces on the chess board moving’.
Said Gillett: “There are things going on - there are pieces on the chess board moving but it would not be helpful for us to comment.”
Referring to Hicks’ revelation in the Echo last month that the pair had approached Jurgen Klinsmann to line him up as a potential successor to Rafael Benitez, he added: “We get as many as 2,000 emails a week.
“Ninety five per cent of them have been directed at some of the comments made by my partner. And five per cent aimed at both of us.... ‘Go Home Americans!’
“The thing that angers fans the most is the prospect I might sell even one share of my stock to my partner.
“They do not want him to have any controlling interest in this club – they do not even want him to have any ownership in the club.
“As a result of that – and it’s been very difficult for my wife with the amount that I travel – we receive many phone calls in the middle of the night threatening our lives – death threats.
“A number came to the office and my son Foster and daughter-in-law Lauren have received them.
“It’s interesting the calls are not against my wife or myself or my son or my daughter in law, as much as they are against us selling to our partner.
“So we are rethinking that.
“Frankly I don’t think it’s fair for me to put my family in that kind of danger.
“So instead of thinking about selling I might think about buying.”
Referring to his joint ownership with Texan billionaire Hicks, Colorado-based Gillett admitted: “This partnership has been unworkable for some time. But not because of us – we have tried to be co-operative, we have tried to be supportive but when your public persona is more important than the facts, that makes it difficult to have a rational relationship.
Asked about his plans going forward Gillett added: “We were very fair. We gave our partner a long period of time to try to make arrangements to buy us out.
“We didn’t put pressure on him but he ultimately did not get to the finish line.
“In the meantime, because of the things he said, the fans’ reaction has been so negative towards him – and towards us if we sold to him – that has now made that an untenable alternative for us.
“He threatened to block me selling to Dubai - that was certainly one of the things that made the fans upset.
“Lord knows DIC have the money; with oil prices going up every day, that’s not an issue. They certainly have the history and they are fans.
“I think they would have been very responsible owners.
“But making that not possible or difficult didn’t endear people to the fans.
Pledging to do what was best for the club now, Gillett promised: “What I know is that the fans and the great fabled history of this club deserves better – and we are going to do whatever we can to prove that in whatever role we play.”
Despite the threats and the general furore Gillett revealed he and his son Foster – a club director – intended to travel to England to attend one of the upcoming games against Arsenal next week.
LIVERPOOL co-owner George Gillett today admitted his partnership with Tom Hicks had completely broken down and was beyond repair.
And he told of the death threats he and his family had been receiving from fans amid the ongoing controversy surrounding Anfield.
Gillett revealed he had also recently offered Hicks the chance to buy out his half share in the Reds but that he had run out of time.
He also declared that Hicks had tried to veto him selling to Dubai International Capital – whom he said would make ‘very responsible owners’ of the trouble-torn club.
The Dubai company has already had a recent £400m bid for Anfield turned down by Hicks, who insists he is not interested in selling his stake.
Gillett spoke at length for the first time of the crisis at Anfield in an interview with radio station Fan590 in Canada, where he admitted he may now pursue an interest in establishing a soccer club in Montreal which would play in America’s MLS.
The owner of the Montreal Canadiens ice hockey team did not reveal what he planned to do with his half share of Liverpool now, but said there were ‘pieces on the chess board moving’.
Said Gillett: “There are things going on - there are pieces on the chess board moving but it would not be helpful for us to comment.”
Referring to Hicks’ revelation in the Echo last month that the pair had approached Jurgen Klinsmann to line him up as a potential successor to Rafael Benitez, he added: “We get as many as 2,000 emails a week.
“Ninety five per cent of them have been directed at some of the comments made by my partner. And five per cent aimed at both of us.... ‘Go Home Americans!’
“The thing that angers fans the most is the prospect I might sell even one share of my stock to my partner.
“They do not want him to have any controlling interest in this club – they do not even want him to have any ownership in the club.
“As a result of that – and it’s been very difficult for my wife with the amount that I travel – we receive many phone calls in the middle of the night threatening our lives – death threats.
“A number came to the office and my son Foster and daughter-in-law Lauren have received them.
“It’s interesting the calls are not against my wife or myself or my son or my daughter in law, as much as they are against us selling to our partner.
“So we are rethinking that.
“Frankly I don’t think it’s fair for me to put my family in that kind of danger.
“So instead of thinking about selling I might think about buying.”
Referring to his joint ownership with Texan billionaire Hicks, Colorado-based Gillett admitted: “This partnership has been unworkable for some time. But not because of us – we have tried to be co-operative, we have tried to be supportive but when your public persona is more important than the facts, that makes it difficult to have a rational relationship.
Asked about his plans going forward Gillett added: “We were very fair. We gave our partner a long period of time to try to make arrangements to buy us out.
“We didn’t put pressure on him but he ultimately did not get to the finish line.
“In the meantime, because of the things he said, the fans’ reaction has been so negative towards him – and towards us if we sold to him – that has now made that an untenable alternative for us.
“He threatened to block me selling to Dubai - that was certainly one of the things that made the fans upset.
“Lord knows DIC have the money; with oil prices going up every day, that’s not an issue. They certainly have the history and they are fans.
“I think they would have been very responsible owners.
“But making that not possible or difficult didn’t endear people to the fans.
Pledging to do what was best for the club now, Gillett promised: “What I know is that the fans and the great fabled history of this club deserves better – and we are going to do whatever we can to prove that in whatever role we play.”
Despite the threats and the general furore Gillett revealed he and his son Foster – a club director – intended to travel to England to attend one of the upcoming games against Arsenal next week.
lak47
League 2
- 8 December 2006
Re: Liverpool Thread
oooooo!!! looks like i touched a blue nerve!! :-pp
think the UEFA Cup exit pain still lurks :whistle:
MANCHESTER UNITED...
oooooo!!! looks like i touched a blue nerve!! :-pp
think the UEFA Cup exit pain still lurks :whistle:
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DagsJT
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Re: Liverpool Thread
It comes down to us all of the time. Even when Everton fans score, they start to sing crap about us. They really do spend so much time directing hatred and bitterness to us as much as supporting their own team I think.
It comes down to us all of the time. Even when Everton fans score, they start to sing crap about us. They really do spend so much time directing hatred and bitterness to us as much as supporting their own team I think.
Re: Liverpool Thread
Yeh. I am all waiting for songs about Torres and Gerrard's daughter....
I listened to the Gillett interview. One thing he mentioned on quiet a few occassions was that selling to Hicks was no longer a viable option. But then he also mentioned how DIC 'would have made' great owners.
Yeh. I am all waiting for songs about Torres and Gerrard's daughter....
I listened to the Gillett interview. One thing he mentioned on quiet a few occassions was that selling to Hicks was no longer a viable option. But then he also mentioned how DIC 'would have made' great owners.
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DagsJT
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Re: Liverpool Thread
I read that too, the word "would" isn't a good word
He also says about him getting phone calls and he associates them with Hicks more than himself. And that he's not thinking about selling but buying. So is he looking to raise money to buy Hicks out?
I read that too, the word "would" isn't a good word
He also says about him getting phone calls and he associates them with Hicks more than himself. And that he's not thinking about selling but buying. So is he looking to raise money to buy Hicks out?
Re: Liverpool Thread
i kinda feel they love putting you guys down more than supporting their team from the looks and posts of fans over on this forum!!
i kinda feel they love putting you guys down more than supporting their team from the looks and posts of fans over on this forum!!
Re: Liverpool Thread
is that right dags? seems like you red-shite spend alot of ,time slagging your blues brother; pot calling the kettle black
i didnt start any of this recent bout of attacks ...you did:r1
is that right dags? seems like you red-shite spend alot of ,time slagging your blues brother; pot calling the kettle black
i didnt start any of this recent bout of attacks ...you did:r1
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DagsJT
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There is FAR FAR FAAAAR more slagging off of Liverpool going on from the the couple of Everton fans than the number of Liverpool fans. And I'd expect other people (like Delta) to say they've noticed the Everton fans spend more time throwing digs at us. We've got enough to talk about with performances, takeovers, players etc. I hardly ever see Liverpool fans going on about Everton. And I especially don't see us winning games/scoring goals and singing about Everton.
There is FAR FAR FAAAAR more slagging off of Liverpool going on from the the couple of Everton fans than the number of Liverpool fans. And I'd expect other people (like Delta) to say they've noticed the Everton fans spend more time throwing digs at us. We've got enough to talk about with performances, takeovers, players etc. I hardly ever see Liverpool fans going on about Everton. And I especially don't see us winning games/scoring goals and singing about Everton.
bebo
Looking for a Manager
Re: Liverpool Thread
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7318780.stm death threats to his wife and family...excuses..excuses....admit it you knew little about this deal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7318780.stm death threats to his wife and family...excuses..excuses....admit it you knew little about this deal
lak47
League 2
- 8 December 2006
Re: Liverpool Thread
Blue mate, just for your memory, check the EVERTON VIEW thread and see how many times have we posted in your thread slagging you. And then, come back here, and count the number of posts you've made, theslagging 'banter' as you like to call them.
and about the recentbout of attacks banter, began only after you said something about some 'broken dreams' you see.
Blue mate, just for your memory, check the EVERTON VIEW thread and see how many times have we posted in your thread slagging you. And then, come back here, and count the number of posts you've made, the
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DagsJT
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My point is that I agree with Delta. Why are you having a go at me for agreeing with him? Is it because I'm a Red and you get a kick out of slagging off us, and Delta is a Chelsea fan? Delta was the first to make the comment but you turned on me?
My point is that I agree with Delta. Why are you having a go at me for agreeing with him? Is it because I'm a Red and you get a kick out of slagging off us, and Delta is a Chelsea fan? Delta was the first to make the comment but you turned on me?
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DagsJT
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Re: Liverpool Thread
Not STRICTLY true, Plan M is the first, VERY closely followed by Blue/Chico
Just messing Mike
Not STRICTLY true, Plan M is the first, VERY closely followed by Blue/Chico
Just messing Mike
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around the time off the last derby there was over 100 posts slagin us off remember?
around the time off the last derby there was over 100 posts slagin us off remember?
lak47
League 2
- 8 December 2006
Re: Liverpool Thread
there are posts slagging us off everyday, and Dags named the posters already. now tell me, the day u drew west-ham, how many of us came andslagged bantered in the everton thread? the next day after we lost to a certain team, you were the one to first start by saying the 'normal service resumed' thing? now, DO YOU REMEMBER?
there are posts slagging us off everyday, and Dags named the posters already. now tell me, the day u drew west-ham, how many of us came and
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lak47
League 2
- 8 December 2006
Re: Liverpool Thread
^ +1 on that one Blue.
^ +1 on that one Blue.
- 27 September 2007
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- Manchester United
Re: Liverpool Thread
Of course I am, L'pool are one of our main rivals. It's all banter mate - that's what football is about my friend.
Not STRICTLY true, Plan M is the first, VERY closely followed by Blue/Chico
Just messing Mike
Of course I am, L'pool are one of our main rivals. It's all banter mate - that's what football is about my friend.
YoungGun_UK
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Re: Liverpool Thread
Hey guys, i heard Abhishek mention a while back that you were linked with Bentley do you lot think he's good enough? i think the kids quality reminds of Becks could be one of the wingers for the summer?
Hey guys, i heard Abhishek mention a while back that you were linked with Bentley do you lot think he's good enough? i think the kids quality reminds of Becks could be one of the wingers for the summer?
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which is about the only time we do slag you off. Derby day, otherwise you aren't usually in our thoughts. Granted you are now because you are being peskey and challenging us for 4th! Rascals!
which is about the only time we do slag you off. Derby day, otherwise you aren't usually in our thoughts. Granted you are now because you are being peskey and challenging us for 4th! Rascals!
Re: Liverpool Thread
I actually rate Bentley very highly, but I hope he doesn't get reputed as the 'New Beckham' because he has so much more about his game than Beckham. He has excellent technique, great ball control and has a fantastic shot on him. He also has a great cross (not as good as Beckhams's), is a very clever passer in that he can cut through defenses, and is generally a very clever player, in that he is aware of what's happening. He isn't lightning quick as Lennon, or Wright Phillips, but he isn't slow either, and has much more end product.
I feel that he could work really well with Torres, Babel and Gerrard. I don't think people (especially Liverpool fans I have talked to) rate him highly, since he doesn't have a Brazilian name like Bentlinho, but if you compare him to someone like Quaresma, the actualy 'end product' is the same, or even more for Bentley. Plus he would cost half as much, if the rumors are true (linking him to us for 12M).
Several papers have reported that Rafa is interested in him, and I wouldn't mind him at all. Plus he would no time to settle in the league. But it could be a case of a big fish in a small pond, but you can only see if he actually plays for a big club. Plus I feel he would do even better with an attacking full back like Rafinha (another player we have been linked with very often). 2 of them could sort out our right side.
On the left, I think Babel will really explode onto the scene in the Euros, and establish himself next season. At left back, if fit, Aurelio is a pretty decent option IMO. During his time under Rafa at Valencia, he was arguably the best left back in Spain, and one of the better ones in Europe. He scored a shit loads of goals for a full back, and fully deserved a call up for the national team, but with Roberto Carlos, no one else really had a chance did they. Plus, with Insua coming through the ranks, Aurelio can help bedding him in, and Insua could probably become first choice in a couple of seasons.
All still speculation though, but I do feel Bentley is one of the better wingers, that we could realistically buy. And there arn't that many really great wingers out there. There's only one world class quality winger out there, and that's Ronaldo.
I actually rate Bentley very highly, but I hope he doesn't get reputed as the 'New Beckham' because he has so much more about his game than Beckham. He has excellent technique, great ball control and has a fantastic shot on him. He also has a great cross (not as good as Beckhams's), is a very clever passer in that he can cut through defenses, and is generally a very clever player, in that he is aware of what's happening. He isn't lightning quick as Lennon, or Wright Phillips, but he isn't slow either, and has much more end product.
I feel that he could work really well with Torres, Babel and Gerrard. I don't think people (especially Liverpool fans I have talked to) rate him highly, since he doesn't have a Brazilian name like Bentlinho, but if you compare him to someone like Quaresma, the actualy 'end product' is the same, or even more for Bentley. Plus he would cost half as much, if the rumors are true (linking him to us for 12M).
Several papers have reported that Rafa is interested in him, and I wouldn't mind him at all. Plus he would no time to settle in the league. But it could be a case of a big fish in a small pond, but you can only see if he actually plays for a big club. Plus I feel he would do even better with an attacking full back like Rafinha (another player we have been linked with very often). 2 of them could sort out our right side.
On the left, I think Babel will really explode onto the scene in the Euros, and establish himself next season. At left back, if fit, Aurelio is a pretty decent option IMO. During his time under Rafa at Valencia, he was arguably the best left back in Spain, and one of the better ones in Europe. He scored a shit loads of goals for a full back, and fully deserved a call up for the national team, but with Roberto Carlos, no one else really had a chance did they. Plus, with Insua coming through the ranks, Aurelio can help bedding him in, and Insua could probably become first choice in a couple of seasons.
All still speculation though, but I do feel Bentley is one of the better wingers, that we could realistically buy. And there arn't that many really great wingers out there. There's only one world class quality winger out there, and that's Ronaldo.
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