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Abhi, xabi alonso is a fantastic passer, sure one of the best in premier (if not the best) and probably one of the best in europe.
the comparison with xavi is really good, but he's pretty different from pirlo and riquelme.
and i don't think he will ever become like pirlo. they're different kinds of playmakers.
xabi alonso gives order to the game. he's a "structure playmaker".
pirlo instead designs the game. he's a "creative playmaker".
moreover pirlo can play in both roles, xavi's one (wich is xabi alonso's same role), and riquelme's one.
trying a comparison i'd say xabi alonso is like an architect, while pirlo is like a painter, an artist.
architects too are artists, but they can't "see the game" the same way painters do.
@MO DINERO: are there any rumours about vargas joining liverpool?
i see your point, abhi. xabi alonso has nothing to envy to pirlo, talking about passing ability. but talking about vision, pirlo, zidane, rivera, juninho, totti (when he used to play as midfielder).. theese guys can see (better saying "foresee") some passing trajectories that "humans" (no matter how good they are) like xabi alonso just can't
moreover pirlo can score tons of goals.
talking about vargas (thanks for the info MO dinero and abhi; yes there were some rumours about roma and milan being interested in him, but i didn't know about liverpool, so that's why i asked he's a very good left back. he tends to push a lot along the sideline, has a good pass and a very good shot. he's also quite careful in defense.
he's not really a world class player, but he's good... and btw it is really hard to find good left footed players theese days (wich makes him pretty a valuable asset).
talking about the match against inter, i honestly think u guys have some chances. inter has been a machine so far this season. fantastic defense, fantastic midfield, fantastic attack, but they look a bit tired lately. they're keep winning thanks to their phisical supremacy (tallest team in europe), but they look to me a bit too confident. they just sit down,waiting for the opponent to do a mistake, and then they take advantage of it. Liverpool is having some problems lately, and sure the reds don't play "champagne football", but still they don't do many mistakes in defense. so if rafa will study inter's gameplan and prepare an appropriate strategy to contain maicon, cambiasso and ibra...
they have also many injury problems; figo and vieira are just starting to play again, samuel is out, stankovic is not yet able to play for 90 minutes on the same level (after being out for so long), and also cruz and ibra didn't look in their best shape in the last few weeks.
sure inter has more chances to go through, but it won't be an easy game for mancini.
afterall that's champions league. it's a single match, everything can happen. i'd say 60% inter wins and 40% liverpool wins
EDIT:
forget about ramos guys. calderon is pretty stupid, but not that stupid. he would never let sergio leaving.
a couple of weeks ago, when milan asked him abour sergio ramos, calderon replied he wouldn't let him go, not even for a ramos-kakà exchange...
... and honestly i pretty much agree with him, as ramos has a huge impact on the game....even bigger than kaka's and cristiano ronaldo's one.
Your a good lad lo zio thanks for your opinions, Inter are definitely favourites this was the same with Barca, Juventus, Chelsea etc. and we beat them so being the underdogs is perfectly fine with me.
abhishek said:At least we have SOME chance
yep, i just noticed it, sorry :pabhishek said:Btw, we weren't talking about buying Ramos
they're everything but quick, mate. but if ibra will play on his usual standard, there's just no chance for hyppia and carragher to contain him.abhishek said:Inter arn't a very quick team are they? So, Carra and Hyypia would be good enough.
they're everything but quick, mate. but if ibra will play on his usual standard, there's just no chance for hyppia and carragher to contain him.
but, like i said, ibra didn't play at his usual standards in the last 3 weeks, so.
Alonso has nothing to prove and if some of you scouse still dont rate him,it is dumbfounding.It is just unfortunate that your current cannot accomodate Alonso.A 4-4-1-1 formation with Gerrard playing just behind Torres,Mascherano and Alonso could work but thats just me.