Liverpool Thread

I can see no other options for him but a move to France or stay put.

Barca have their big name signing in Neymar and will probably get Torres for the bench. Real want Bale and Cavani. They're not interested in Suarez. Bayern have no interest either. Italy? Don't think that interests Suarez and other clubs in England? Can't see anyone wanting to touch him. That leaves the French league, which will be a nice wages day for him but if he has ambition, he should continue with Liverpool and help us climb the league and get back in a champions league spot.

For me he has said too much lately and completely forgotten about the unwavering support the Liverpool fans and players gave him when everyone else turned on him.

If we get an offer of 40m + from anyone, we should accept and build for next season without him. Too much attention on one man when we have 30+ players that need focusing on and for them to work towards improving us for next season.
 
AS Monaco looks a fine team for Suarez, all money and no class, a club with an unfair advantage (tax free, but here the club is not to blame).
I Always saw Liverpool as a classy club, they don't need a player like Suarez...

I totally agree with UJ about the fact that Suarez owes Liverpool some loyalty after all they did for him (which wasn't Always good for their image). But did you guys expected some loyalty from Suarez ? Serious...
 
yeah exactly what I think , we have Borini , Suso , Sterling , that Yesil guy we bought from Bayer and Morgan from academy , so not sure if this Luis Alberto can get many min's on next few years , but never know maybe this kid its more special !
 
scout report on Luis Alberto, who is currently linked with move to Liverpool FC.

When the name Luis Alberto Romero was tweeted by Sky Sports' Spanish journalist, Guillem Balague, as being a target for Liverpool this summer transfer window, it led to an internet scurry as this was a Barcelona player many Liverpool fans had never heard of.

In fact, Luis Alberto (as he is more commonly known) does not actually even belong to Barcelona. The Sevilla starlet was sent on a year's loan to Barcelona's B team where Barcelona were given the option to buy Luis Alberto at the end of the loan for an agreed fee of €5m if they so wished. With the deadline for any such deal nearing and no sign of Barcelona looking to offer Sevilla €5m, Luis Alberto will return to his parent club very shortly.

The 20-year-old has had a fine season in the Spanish Second Division where he played 38 games scoring 11 goals and notching up 17 assists for Barcelona B.

Prior to the season just gone, Luis Alberto had actually appeared for Sevilla's first team where he made seven appearances for the club in the 2011-2012 season. This was after he scored 25 goals for Sevilla's B team in 77 games over three seasons (although this was in the Spanish Third Division).

Luis Alberto is most definitely a forward player although there still remains question marks as to just what his best position is. Last season, he was mainly deployed as the left-sided attacker in a 3-man strike force but occasionally played as the central striker when the team changed tactics. However, Luis Alberto himself sees his best position as a false number 9. Personally, I hate this phrase which first came to the fore when Cesc Fabregas played the said role for Spain at Euro 2012.

Effectively, it is the trequartista role that Diego Maradona played throughout the 1980s and early 1990s; a false striker whom is neither the classic number 9 nor attacking midfielder but actually something in between. Last season, Michu of Swansea played a similar position where he would effectively hover in the gap between the opposition defence and midfield with no out-and-out striker in front of him.

The role is an extremely difficult one to play as you effectively have to play in the space just in front of the defence and use your strength to either hold up the ball as your team mates overlap and run into space in front of you or decide to go it alone as you run with the ball and try and get a shot on goal. It is all about making the correct decision.

Having seen a number of clips of Luis Alberto from last season, he can most definitely play the false number 9 role but, with Liverpool preferring a more fluid 4-3-3 tactic, should he move to Anfield, he will more than likely be deployed as the left-sided attacker or in the number 10 role which Philippe Coutinho has made his own last season. However, with Luis Suarez's Liverpool future looking far from certain, there is also the chance that he could play second fiddle to Daniel Sturridge as the central striker in Liverpool's preferred 3-man strike force.

As a player, Luis Alberto stands almost 6ft tall and although slight in physique, he has fantastic upper body strength as opponents find it extremely difficult to knock him off the ball. He is someone who likes to run with the ball and although he is not blessed with immense pace or the greatest of dribbling skills, he is a powerful runner - very much in the Kaka mould.

In front of goal, Luis Alberto is clinical and has great composure for someone so young. He rarely panics when he gets into the box and seems to always make the correct decision whether he shoots himself or passes to a team mate in a more inviting position. He rarely makes the wrong decision and his 11 goals and 17 assists is testament to his decision making ability.

Luis Alberto is also a fantastic set-ball specialist as he can pinpoint a ball from a dead ball position with unnerving precision. A number of his assists have come from dead ball situations whether that be from a deep free kick or corner kick. Over the past few seasons, Liverpool have had a knack of getting a huge number of corners in a number of their matches. However, they rarely lead to direct goals as the deliveries vary between average and awful at times. With someone like Luis Alberto charged to take them, there is a good chance that Liverpool will score more goals from set pieces than they have achieved over the past few seasons.

So what of Barcelona's interest. Although Luis Alberto has had a wonderful season, Barcelona are heavily loaded in the attacking third and Gerard Deulofeu is seen as Barcelona's next great hope and he just so happens to play in the same attacking positions as Luis Alberto. And then there are the likes of long-serving Rafinha and Sergi Roberto who would be competing with Luis Alberto for the trequartista roles.

Sevilla, of course, have the option of keeping hold of Luis Alberto themselves. However, the cash-strapped club have just offloaded Jesus Navas to Manchester City and are more likely to sell some of their younger starlets in order to keep the senior players at the club.

So that brings us to Liverpool's interest. Julian Ward, who jointed Liverpool's scouting network in September 2012, has extensively scouted Luis Alberto since October 2012 and has been following his progress with glowing reports. With Barcelona all but out of the picture, Liverpool will very likely make a move for the young starlet although Sevilla have now placed a revised figure of €9m on his head. However, with the financial struggles that Sevilla are currently going through, Liverpool will look to reach a compromise and could tie up a deal for €7m. If Liverpool can agree such a deal, they will have snapped up a player with huge potential and someone who could be a member of the first team next season.
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I wonder what the signing of Luis Alberto and of Mkhitaryan will mean to Shelvey and Henderson. Unfortunately, probably the end for Shelvey, although I hope we loan him rather than sell him. About Henderson with all this signings I think he is not even going to be the second choice in the positions he was this season.
 
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Liverbird said:
I wonder what the signing of Luis Alberto and of Mkhitaryan will mean to Shelvey and Henderson. Unfortunately, probably the end for Shelvey, although I hope we loan him rather than sell him. About Henderson with all this signings I think he is not even going to be the second choice in the positions he was this season.
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Probably for the best, Shelvey is a useless footballer and a bit of a prick when it comes to tackling, excessive force anyone?

Henderson always was over rated, and never looked to be more than a average to good player. Should have stayed at Sunderland.




I just realised how pessimistic I am about English footballers, wow! :L
 
Suarez demanding more attention again trying to fabricate a move to Real when there is little to no interest for him from the Spanish side.

He should now be fined and placed in the reserves. If he wants to go so bad he should stop talking to the press at EVERY opportunity he gets and hand an official transfer request in and pay some of the transfer fee himself from his own pocket. Waive his signing on fee and find himself a club willing to pay for his nonsense and all the circus entertainment he provides.

Liverpool do not deserve to be treated like this. No club does. I don't want him to play for us anymore.
 
Taylor_94 said:
Probably for the best, Shelvey is a useless footballer and a bit of a prick when it comes to tackling, excessive force anyone?

Henderson always was over rated, and never looked to be more than a average to good player. Should have stayed at Sunderland.




I just realised how pessimistic I am about English footballers, wow! :L
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Agree about Henderson and english footballers in general, but Shelvey is far from being a useless player man. He has tons of quality, his passing and vision of the game is not that common for an english footballer, he has been very irregular for us and made some stupid decisions as those tackles you mention. But he is still young, we should send him on loan to a club where he can be a starter and then next season take this decision, not now.
We could sell him now for say 6M and be looking very stupid in a few years (just like Sevilla with Luis Alberto)
 
Taylor_94 said:
Probably for the best, Shelvey is a useless footballer and a bit of a prick when it comes to tackling, excessive force anyone?

Henderson always was over rated, and never looked to be more than a average to good player. Should have stayed at Sunderland.
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Shelvey its better than what people think about him , so i hope we loan him as we can be sorry after for selling him !

and Henderson wasn't that bad at all this season , so i start having hope than he will get better every year !

jonnyluvrod said:
Suarez demanding more attention again trying to fabricate a move to Real when there is little to no interest for him from the Spanish side.

He should now be fined and placed in the reserves.
Liverpool do not deserve to be treated like this. No club does. I don't want him to play for us anymore.
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now thats what im talking about !!!
 
Liverbird said:
I wonder what the signing of Luis Alberto and of Mkhitaryan will mean to Shelvey and Henderson. Unfortunately, probably the end for Shelvey, although I hope we loan him rather than sell him. About Henderson with all this signings I think he is not even going to be the second choice in the positions he was this season.
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Henderson and Shelvey have a degree of versatility you could more or less play them in any midfielder role in an emergency. If Liverpool were looking to ship out a midfielder I'd pick Allen as he isn't as versatile and from what I recall he's a bit older.
 
I rate Allen a lot, I think he is going to have a very strong season and I also think he is versatile and much more needed than Shelvey and Henderson. None of these two could if needed replace Lucas as they have no defensive abilites, that is not the case of Allen who was very impressive playing that role at the start of last season.
Allen is a versatile player and needed player. He can play any role in the midfield of 3 Rodgers use.
 
cfdh_edmundo said:
Henderson and Shelvey have a degree of versatility you could more or less play them in any midfielder role in an emergency. If Liverpool were looking to ship out a midfielder I'd pick Allen as he isn't as versatile and from what I recall he's a bit older.
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I thought Shelvey and Henderson would light up the U21s, playing together in the middle. They were positively awful. And not against the highest level of opponent (apologies to Norwegian and Israel U21 players).
 
jonnyluvrod said:
Suarez demanding more attention again trying to fabricate a move to Real when there is little to no interest for him from the Spanish side.

He should now be fined and placed in the reserves. If he wants to go so bad he should stop talking to the press at EVERY opportunity he gets and hand an official transfer request in and pay some of the transfer fee himself from his own pocket. Waive his signing on fee and find himself a club willing to pay for his nonsense and all the circus entertainment he provides.

Liverpool do not deserve to be treated like this. No club does. I don't want him to play for us anymore.
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I totally agree, I can't wait to see this guy gone....
He should man up and just put in a transfer request.

The real reasons for his departure
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...-Luis-Suarez-remains-keen-on-Real-Madrid-move

"It disturbs me that Liverpool are not in the Champions League every season," added Suarez.

But we have reasons for optimism
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/15117/8780911/Reasons-for-optimism
 
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i think somehow Suarez will end up at Juventus...

i read somewhere Arsenal will give Real more than Juve for Higuain.. and Juve definetly will go after a striker..

i could well imagine Suarez wanting Juve instead of Monaco...if it isn´t all about money for him...
 
If Suarez goes to Juve then it's a step down for him on my opinion.

Not just as a club do I think Juve are smaller than Liverpool but as a league, the Premier is still way ahead of Italy. Half empty stadiums, poor atmosphere at the grounds as well as the defenders kicking lumps out of him. He'll be rolling around on the floor all match doing his praying hands routine.

I don't really care where he goes now though as long as he goes.

As Gerd has stated, Monaco look a good match for him. He won't get his 'dream' move to Real or Barca so he might as well forget that.
 
PIPA23 said:
i think somehow Suarez will end up at Juventus...

i read somewhere Arsenal will give Real more than Juve for Higuain.. and Juve definetly will go after a striker..

i could well imagine Suarez wanting Juve instead of Monaco...if it isn´t all about money for him...
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I dont see Juvenus spending 40M on a player. They ll end buying Jovetic and Suarez will go to the French League if he doenst end at Real Madrid.
 
YoungGun_UK said:
Juventus would be a step down?!

It really wouldn't, it's a silly statement in all honesty.
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How is it silly?

Sure Liverpool haven't challenged domestically for the title over recent years but how are Juve any bigger a club than Liverpool?

It's certainly not a step up, more across but to an inferior league with far less global interest and coverage than the EPL.

A step up would be to Man Utd, Arsenal,Real, Barca, Bayern etc. These teams are the elite that Suarez craves.

I don't see any Italian side as an attraction to the very top players any more.

But hey, it's just an opinion not fact.
 
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i think somehow Suarez will end up at Juventus...

i read somewhere Arsenal will give Real more than Juve for Higuain.. and Juve definetly will go after a striker..

i could well imagine Suarez wanting Juve instead of Monaco...if it isn´t all about money for him...
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Don`t believe all what`s being said. Intent is a tool to bluff, when has Arsenal ever bought a player w/ so much media attention?

Arsenal are well known for paying in full on players(hence the price tags of £10m-15m). Clubs link players to Arsenal for that very reason. Juve is looking for installment package ,and Arsenal is an easy word for Juve to dig deep and bring the cash upfront. Cazorla and Giroud names came up only after the deals btw clubs were confirmed, so until RM`s PR start saying we are discussing terms. It`s all agents feeding media intent.
 
jonnyluvrod said:
How is it silly?

Sure Liverpool haven't challenged domestically for the title over recent years but how are Juve any bigger a club than Liverpool?

It's certainly not a step up, more across but to an inferior league with far less global interest and coverage than the EPL.

A step up would be to Man Utd, Arsenal,Real, Barca, Bayern etc. These teams are the elite that Suarez craves.

I don't see any Italian side as an attraction to the very top players any more.

But hey, it's just an opinion not fact.
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still Seria A must do something right if Italy NT is better than English NT..
 
I'm not sure that Juve is a step down.
Both Juve and Liverpool are among the biggest clubs in the world.
Currently the EPL is perhaps the better league, but IMO Juventus is at the moment the better club, they play CL and are among the outsiders to win it (don't forget that they lost against the later winners).
IMO Juventus are currently a step up.
But if Liverpool can buy Mkitharyan (that name !!!) and play like they did at the end of the season, they are not far off from Juve in the future....
 
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