really this forum is so full of toxic bullshit. get your shit together. PES 2019 is a great footy-game. I don't know how you play but I play 1 vs 1 and 2 vs 2 with friends and it's for most of time amazing how "real" (considerd its a match stripped down to 15 minutes) it simulates the story of a real footy-game.
and even myclub is quite fun. I create teams like "serie a allstars", "youngster u 23" and have a lot of fun. you meet decent players when you dont play with a five star teams full of messi and ronaldos. and the game gives you the possibilty.
one point i give you: the ai is a cheating bastard and master-league is no fun this way.
and to all the people that praise PES6/PES 2013. today these games are totally outdated and no fun anymore. I can't understand how people still have fun with them.
back to 2019: pes always looks worst when you don't play it yourself. because as a player you're so focused on the game that little flaws like the "skating" and stocking aninmations are no that present. cant wait to get my hands on it.
Sorry I usally just read here and sometimes I too shake my haed over the weird decisions KONAMI makes. but this constant shitting on every ascpect of the game here is not normal.
PES 2019 isn't perfect but it is a very good football game i have enjoyed when i have played it this year although work and career has come first for me.
As for the place being toxic, i think the biggest problem here is the discussions here are very much being left in the past. I honestly think many old timers here don't know what they want anymore. I think someone mentioned PES 2008 again, that game is almost 12 years ago, that game came about before online was even a substantial thing, before online went mainstream. Back then gameplay was king and its why PES was the king, now gameplay isn't even a 2nd or 3rd factor no more. Licences and online modes come first and second! The world has changed and moved on and this place the discussion is very, very much still stuck in the past. This place has gone from a influential group to a minority and now it's literally a handful of people.
Back then was twitter even online? Now sadly twitter is the home for PES feedback and discussion, not here sadly, we need to wake up and realise that. I mean in terms of discussions you have reddit also.
I spoke to Lami about this years ago and he was concerned that Evo Web wasn't what it could be and his concerns are being realised here i feel, Evo web is good for our patching and modding section and this discussion forum has completely lost any weight or influence whatsoever on PES itself. This place has a mentallity where one person is unhappy and makes constant noise about the game being bad and gets really annoyed if someone disagrees with him.
People 10-15 years ago used to have to come to great forums like this to discuss PES, uploading anything was a pain 10-15 years ago hence why discussion forums were so big. Now this place is to find patches really and the discussion holds little to no water. since you have twitter and streamers where people can see things for themselves with ease and discuss things on live chats.
Football also like i have said is a totally different game compared to anything pre 2006-07. PES 2019 represents the modern game so well. The game is fast now and sadly sanitised to the point you cant tackle like before. Sadly we are in an era of athletes over artists like before.
These days even if the gameplay was perfection and all the modes where staked i'd still have issues picking teams to use becuase i find modern football rubbish. The world of football is not the same anymore and i feel that people here doesn't seem to get that.
