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Monkey's paw wish:

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A new challenger appears.








But it's Ubisoft.
Forgot about this?
 
but in short things like fake strikes, the strikes in general, close control, removing the R2 + pass mechanics for a higher or for a bit more accurate low pass, and the defense play will be a HUGE problem, etc.
Fake strikes were in, changed to a new key binding. R2 + circle for high pass was still in. Double tap for low cross was still in. I was surprised to see a lot of people saying things were removed then playing it and finding they were still there! Loads of people saying no Super Cancel, but when I tried it it worked, and sure enough it was in their controls section like normal.

Granted there are still further changes and things to worry about :)
That for me still means that it's an old build made with the purpose of just testing the connection as they said, and they don't want any one to think it's PES or near to the final product, because it won't be like that
It's much more likely they were doing it because they're changing the name, which has been forthcoming for a while now let's face it. I said this pretty much the day of the beta, and I'm really surprised people think the placeholder name means anything else.
You say that - it'd be pretty cool if, after the announcement, you could grab a new beta, or a demo. Unless it was barely changed from the last one.
For some unexplained reason, I'm feeling like this might happen. Who knows...
that Neymar looks so sad... what does he know!? ;)


That reminds me of this recent BBC graphic for a Burnley transfer announcement

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...that look of despair!
 
That was the joke - in The Simpsons, the monkey paw grants your wish, but in such a way that you hate it. As in the phrase, "be careful what you wish for".
Ooh, I see. Thanks for the explanation
never watched the Simpsons





...to THIS!

someone should explain to that guy what downgrades are and just how well they've been mastered by ubisoft
 
Fake strikes were in, changed to a new key binding. R2 + circle for high pass was still in. Double tap for low cross was still in. I was surprised to see a lot of people saying things were removed then playing it and finding they were still there! Loads of people saying no Super Cancel, but when I tried it it worked, and sure enough it was in their controls section like normal.

Granted there are still further changes and things to worry about :)

It's much more likely they were doing it because they're changing the name, which has been forthcoming for a while now let's face it. I said this pretty much the day of the beta, and I'm really surprised people think the placeholder name means anything else.

For some unexplained reason, I'm feeling like this might happen. Who knows...

That reminds me of this recent BBC graphic for a Burnley transfer announcement

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...that look of despair!
that look! :LOL: full of anticipation! not! :D

thats how i'd look after meeting Hennessy in person! ;)

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the forums are in a good mood these hours! i like that! :APPLAUD:
 
Fake strikes were in, changed to a new key binding. R2 + circle for high pass was still in. Double tap for low cross was still in. I was surprised to see a lot of people saying things were removed then playing it and finding they were still there! Loads of people saying no Super Cancel, but when I tried it it worked, and sure enough it was in their controls section like normal.

Granted there are still further changes and things to worry about :)

It's much more likely they were doing it because they're changing the name, which has been forthcoming for a while now let's face it. I said this pretty much the day of the beta, and I'm really surprised people think the placeholder name means anything else.

For some unexplained reason, I'm feeling like this might happen. Who knows...

That reminds me of this recent BBC graphic for a Burnley transfer announcement

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...that look of despair!
Yeah mate.. google translate sux sometimes.. I mean fake shot or newcomer developers in Konami call it feint shot ... :CONF:. Yes about Super Cancel, i get it just the button map now is mess and I have to rediscover them.

And now R2+high pass is fake shot/pas !? I know maybe yours button mapping is diffirent but for me R2+Highpass now is faskeshot
 
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24hrs until we see the reason why PES 21 was postponed, 24hrs until we find out what Konami have been developing for over 2 years, 24hrs until we see how Konami have mastered the new engine, 24hrs until the 'photo realistic' football game that wows crowds is announced......

Actually 24hrs until a brief CGI trailer announcing a future full reveal date is launched.

There is only one outcome from tomorrows announcement - Disappointment. And you all know it.
 
"Rumors" from web

We could have 2 versions of Pes

1)Free to play on PS4 in September without any offline mode
2)Complete Game with all offline mode only for PS5 and Xbox, in January


Take it just as a "rumors" nothing else
 
If this is true ----take with a pinch of salt------then I call the Death of the PES series. If they can't release offline modes for PS5 by "end of year" ...

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This seems a sensible reply.

Sounds like rumours that probably started with Renan, fed into the rumour sphere, wound their way into the Japanese blog, then translated and outputted again as a fresh rumour by Galvani :LOL:
 
Ooh, I see. Thanks for the explanation
never watched the Simpsons



someone should explain to that guy what downgrades are and just how well they've been mastered by ubisoft

Faces are pobably the only thing that we all agree they are very good at.

I am betting It Will look Far better than the demo. Not sure If on the teaser level
 
I did initially, but link "New Football Game" to @Ameppe's spot that all mention of PES is being removed and replaced with eFootball across the official sites, and... It seems to me like they're very purposefully dropping "PES" and severing all ties with the idea that it's even related, any more.

Being in marketing, I know that companies never, ever drop a brand name with strong brand recognition (it's so hard to get that any more), unless A) they're either trying to distance themselves from their old customers and desperately chase a younger audience ("hey kids, that crusty old PES game your dad talks about, we're not that - we're new and cool")... Or B) the brand has got a terrible quality reputation, and they want to "start again" so that customers don't realise it's them.

You say that - it'd be pretty cool if, after the announcement, you could grab a new beta, or a demo. Unless it was barely changed from the last one.
I don't think they will totally drop PES from the title for precisely the reasons you outlined.

I think the "New Football Game " name genuinely was to distinguish it from PES and the main purpose was to test network connectivity.

I've thought for some time that tomorrow might well see the release of a revised beta with vastly improved graphics and extended controls and gameplay, together with another survey , the results of which will contrast hugely with the initial survey.

I think the new game will be essentially a PS4 game running UE4 with a PS5/Xbox One X "enhanced" version, so not really "next-gen" in my opinion (but not really any the worse for that gameplay wise).

So I'm fairly optimistic, but realise I might well end up disappointed. Either way, we'll know soon enough.

Where I'm not so upbeat is on Master League improvements, which I can't see being extensive.
 
"Rumors" from web

We could have 2 versions of Pes

1)Free to play on PS4 in September without any offline mode
2)Complete Game with all offline mode only for PS5 and Xbox, in January


Take it just as a "rumors" nothing else

If that is the case, then PS4 version could be on Fox Engine wich could also indicate that the online test had nothing to do with the New game since It was on unreal in all platforms.

I think this rumour is shit.
 
I don't think they will totally drop PES from the title for precisely the reasons you outlined.

I think the "New Football Game " name genuinely was to distinguish it from PES and the main purpose was to test network connectivity.

I've thought for some time that tomorrow might well see the release of a revised beta with vastly improved graphics and extended controls and gameplay, together with another survey , the results of which will contrast hugely with the initial survey.

I think the new game will be essentially a PS4 game running UE4 with a PS5/Xbox One X "enhanced" version, so not really "next-gen" in my opinion (but not really any the worse for that gameplay wise).

So I'm fairly optimistic, but realise I might well end up disappointed. Either way, we'll know soon enough.

Where I'm not so upbeat is on Master League improvements, which I can't see being extensive.

I agree with everything you said here.
 
I did initially, but link "New Football Game" to @Ameppe's spot that all mention of PES is being removed and replaced with eFootball across the official sites, and... It seems to me like they're very purposefully dropping "PES" and severing all ties with the idea that it's even related, any more.

Being in marketing, I know that companies never, ever drop a brand name with strong brand recognition (it's so hard to get that any more), unless A) they're either trying to distance themselves from their old customers and desperately chase a younger audience ("hey kids, that crusty old PES game your dad talks about, we're not that - we're new and cool")... Or B) the brand has got a terrible quality reputation, and they want to "start again" so that customers don't realise it's them.
I should have added that I agree, if they do remove "PES" from the title, of course then it will be a strong indication of where the game is headed, and the probable ditching of us older, mainly offline fans.

I wasn't too concerned what the new game was going to be called to be honest, other than for nostalgic reasons, but now I realise that there's more at stake than just a name change.

Tomorrow could be interesting
 
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