eFootball (All Platforms)

dissectionalone said:
On hindsight, and based on the stuff I've noticed, I'm convinced that Konami did not do anything to the code in order to make the "locked" difficulty levels ready to be used on this v 1.0... Uusally, the guys who are longtime PES players developed the habit of playing the game on the highest diffculty level (you folks want your footie games to be like the Souls' of sports games :P ) and the begginers might play with lower difficulty levels (until maybe Intermediate level) and the casual players might go with something like the Professional level (which isn't readily available to be chosen) so I guess that the oddities are more prone to show through on the "less used levels".

If they allowed us to re-create these "final showdown" Fox Engine games using Unreal Engine I believe we'd (the community that is) give Konami a run for their money (and maybe even threaten their business for real :P )
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I will try Legend tonight as i been on Superstar just to get the challenges GP and to get used to the game.

Legend is hard for hard's sake usually, (Not quite dark souls but it can feel loke it at times) but you can win on it since some teams formations are flawed with the game in this current state.

I would like to see some offline stuff on Thursday for Konami's next update or maybe it will just be the beginning of online Dream Team ranked matches. Meh...

I expect the gameplay to stay similar or the same until end of May
 
klashman69 said:
I will try Legend tonight as i been on Superstar just to get the challenges GP and to get used to the game.

Legend is hard for hard's sake usually, (Not quite dark souls but it can feel loke it at times) but you can win on it since some teams formations are flawed with the game in this current state.

I would like to see some offline stuff on Thursday for Konami's next update or maybe it will just be the beginning of online Dream Team ranked matches. Meh...

I expect the gameplay to stay similar or the same until end of May
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I have been playing on Legend ever since i unlocked it. Yes Real is lethal but i think its kinda fair in general compared to previous games? I still can feel the difference between small and big teams.
 
I bought today Firmino. Man after having Krkic and Vela in the middle of park...now having a proper deep sitting CF/SS changed my attacking game. He has good feet, he has balance, he has the flair, he can pass around and he is on the scoring sheet all the time.
 
Just can't stop playing it! So glad I didn't start with a stacked team as I'm really enjoying training up my fairly average squad. I've got my team play style up to 91& the whole team is a feeling like a cohesive unit.

I've been mostly grinding the player XP in the offline Spanish event & had some fantastic matches tonight against the A.i on top player. I'm really becoming attached to my squad like you would with a ML team.

Gonna venture back online tomorrow & see if I can outplay some of the super teams. Looking forward to what Thursday brings.
 
Mikhail said:
This is a vast improvement, I can’t stop playing. The graphics are insane on Series X, real next gen look and feel.

I can’t wait for Master League to arrive…
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I can't stop playing either, ı guess ı have played more matches than i had on v.09 and Pes 21 combined. This game is so addicted even though it has some flaws.

But i don't agree about graphics, i am playing on Series X as well but graphics could be way better than this. It looks like Xbox One level game at best.
 
Kunio_Kun said:
I can't stop playing either, ı guess ı have played more matches than i had on v.09 and Pes 21 combined. This game is so addicted even though it has some flaws.

But i don't agree about graphics, i am playing on Series X as well but graphics could be way better than this. It looks like Xbox One level game at best.
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I think he was being sarcastic
 
Im pretty sure if the opponents attacker is on the lose and you just barely catching up with him, just try to press the Match Up anyways. It will bother him in the shooting.
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
I cant help it, actually it stuck with me bc of This Is Football :D
But im too old now to change, it took me years during the PS3 era too to get used to the Trigger + Left Stick for driving games :D I still miss the D-pad and :x::square: combo :D
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I just don't know how you do it! I play a load of old games and find myself stunned that sprinting and player switching could be anything but shoulder button. Whatever you're comfortable with, I guess!

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So I found myself thinking: how different is eFootball to PES 2021? I then played some PES 2021 - a game I usually find lukewarm at best - to better compare.

And I had a ball. Ended up playing it for a couple of hours.

I give up. Nothing makes sense any more.
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
I cant help it, actually it stuck with me bc of This Is Football :D
But im too old now to change, it took me years during the PS3 era too to get used to the Trigger + Left Stick for driving games :D I still miss the D-pad and :x::square: combo :D
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not shittin on your choices bro, but you are missing out on the gradual sprint. On 1.0, if you press the R2 button 10% - 15%, the players take more touches and are more agile...
 
Been following the development of this thread in the past few days, and although some impressions are more positive, I'll reserve my download and review until Master League, League, and Cup are completely finished, and modded with full licensed teams and no need for online gaming is necessary at all for me to play the game. In anycase.. Have fun guys, I'll continue with my retro PES campaigns. :)
 
Well.. It seems like the game is not that bad as per the opinions and reviews. I'm in the same situation as @ElChachoCoudet as I couldn't run the game on my low budget PC...
ElChachoCoudet said:
I spent 8 hours downloading it, played only for 23 minutes (half of the time to customize the settings in PC), and then I uninstalled it.

On the graphic side, I like most of its aspects, but I think is really bad optimized. It's a 20% better than PES 2021, but it runs terrible in the same computer. Too much requirements for such a little improvement.
Some new moves here and there, a totally changed gameplay. I found crossed controls that drove me nuts. And the menu... the menu is a mess, it's by far the worst I have seen in a game. They didn't hire a UX/UI designer. Otherwise, I can't explain what happened.

I will give it a try again in 1 or 2 years, when is complete/fixed. In this state is totally unplayable for me, I can't imagine how the 0.7 version was.
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My internet speed is alright. Finished downloading within 2-3 Hours, but played it for 25 minutes approx (including all the customization and Dream Team look around and stuffs). Hope I can run this game within another 2 or 3 years, when I actually get a high-end PC.

By the way, it's all happened in the launch day (14th April) itself. Never downloaded it again since then..
 
DevPlays said:
Well.. It seems like the game is not that bad as per the opinions and reviews. I'm in the same situation as @ElChachoCoudet as I couldn't run the game on my low budget PC...

My internet speed is alright. Finished downloading within 2-3 Hours, but played it for 25 minutes approx (including all the customization and Dream Team look around and stuffs). Hope I can run this game within another 2 or 3 years, when I actually get a high-end PC.

By the way, it's all happened in the launch day (14th April) itself. Never downloaded it again since then..
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It's madness that I could run PES2021 on medium settings on my old PC (6th gen i5, 16Gb DDR3 RAM, GTX 960) and 4k60 on my new PC (11th gen i5, 16Gb DDR4, RTX 3070ti) yet eFootball can't do 1080p60 on my new one
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
I bought today Firmino. Man after having Krkic and Vela in the middle of park...now having a proper deep sitting CF/SS changed my attacking game. He has good feet, he has balance, he has the flair, he can pass around and he is on the scoring sheet all the time.
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Haven’t invested in my team yet, just snatched that one free legend (Kahn).
when I did play that Spanish league event, with the crappy dream team I have, it’s so different compared to playing the real teams in practice mode. I’m not sure, if differences between weak players (around 60-65 ovr) and the regular ones (let’s say Bayern) have ever been that strongly emphasized?! 🤔
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
So u can dribble in small touches like Messi? If the player is any good i guess. I was missing that!
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As I wrote last night, I think it’s super important to use the L stick in all its ways possible. Tap it, move it fully, do little touches, lots of them! Good dribblers will stand out, imo.
i try to listen to the sound the player makes while touching the ball. In practice that’s possible and it helps me getting a hang of the dribbling and how players move the ball.
try one thing: walk with the ball, then run with the ball then sprint with the ball and while the player is sprinting… let go of L stick and see how natural he moves with the ball. You can even make moves in between that. I’m currently experimenting with that.
 
PRO_TOO said:
Haven’t invested in my team yet, just snatched that one free legend (Kahn).
when I did play that Spanish league event, with the crappy dream team I have, it’s so different compared to playing the real teams in practice mode. I’m not sure, if differences between weak players (around 60-65 ovr) and the regular ones (let’s say Bayern) have ever been that strongly emphasized?! 🤔
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It does feel to me that this is possibly the most stat driven game we've had since possibly PES 2013?

I know team play style is having an impact in dream team to some degree but I can feel huge differences even in trial matches. Shooting, passing dribbling etc all feel vastly inferior with higher rated CB defenders. They're excellent at defending but can't shoot or dribble to anywhere near the levels of players higher up the field which is as it should be.

I hope it stays this way.
 
Goldstone said:
It does feel to me that this is possibly the most stat driven game we've had since possibly PES 2013?

I know team play style is having an impact in dream team to some degree but I can feel huge differences even in trial matches. Shooting, passing dribbling etc all feel vastly inferior with higher rated CB defenders. They're excellent at defending but can't shoot or dribble to anywhere near the levels of players higher up the field which is as it should be.

I hope it stays this way.
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Yeah, surprisingly, the difference is huuuge imo. So it’s down to the stats? has it ever been that stark in contrast?
and yes, haven’t spent a credit on the manager either, so this could be a valid point!

edit: gotta give the increasing sprint feature with R2 another try. Switched that to R1 (as usual).
 
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Goldstone said:
Wait,what? Have you been sprinting with triangle the whole time?

You are in for a treat when you discover the trigger sensitive sprint/dribble speed😁
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It was that like last year too? Because it was confusing. In PES21 Messi only could dribble with his micro touches using triangle, unlike other players. I thought it something player ID related. :D

F...back to training i guess...
 
Badger Mushroom said:
It's madness that I could run PES2021 on medium settings on my old PC (6th gen i5, 16Gb DDR3 RAM, GTX 960) and 4k60 on my new PC (11th gen i5, 16Gb DDR4, RTX 3070ti) yet eFootball can't do 1080p60 on my new one
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It has to be the worst optimized game in PC history. I mean, if at least graphics looked incredible, I could understand the massive drops but that looks like PES15 in terms of details/quality.
 
Badger Mushroom said:
It's madness that I could run PES2021 on medium settings on my old PC (6th gen i5, 16Gb DDR3 RAM, GTX 960) and 4k60 on my new PC (11th gen i5, 16Gb DDR4, RTX 3070ti) yet eFootball can't do 1080p60 on my new one
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Well, I play PES 2021 on Custom-High settings on my i5-3470s (3rd Gen), 8 GB DDR3 Ram, GT 1030 (yes).. It runs on 60 FPS average (in-game) and 30-40 FPS average on cutscenes. I always optimize my PC to the maximum that I can. No bloatwares, Hundreds of Tweaks in every aspect etc.. Always maintain at a cooler state at max. Still, I can't run eFootball even on Low settings.. 20 FPS average.. lol.. Badly optimized game for sure.
papinho81 said:
It has to be the worst optimized game in PC history. I mean, if at least graphics looked incredible, I could understand the massive drops but that looks like PES15 in terms of details/quality.
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Exactly. It looks like the early days of Fox Engine (but that's even better than this). Konami's massive problem is that, they don't utilize anything at it's max potential. 🤷‍♂️
 
Goldstone said:
Wait,what? Have you been sprinting with triangle the whole time?

You are in for a treat when you discover the trigger sensitive sprint/dribble speed😁
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Ok tried it and switched it back. Its not even that the Dash has to be R2 but then i have to move the Controlled Shot button from R2 as well.
Im too old :D
 
Marlon Anthony said:
I can't actually come up with any realistic, logical reason why the user experience in regards to menu's and the odd omission of settings exist.

I want to believe it's intentionally bad, to deliberately frustrate the user, but again, why? What's the pay off?

Then I want to believe it's just simply designed by a group of fools and never got focused tested, but again, why? Why would you not ensure it doesn't cause problems?

It's like never checking your parachute before putting it on and jumping out of a plane... It's like shitting and never wiping your arse to check you're good as you go about your day. Why do something so drastic and never run some kind of proactive check?

Honestly - literally the last PES (2021) had every single pre match setting all on the same screen; Strip selection, Stadium, Gameplan, General settings etc... All in the same menu.

Now, It's *

  • Clunk
  • Fade to black
  • Load next screen
  • Clunk
  • Fade to black
  • Load next screen

So awkward and so unnecessary. All because WE MUST see their 3D rendered stadiums and pre, pre match cutscene's that get old after the first time seeing them. At least give us the option to disable these, but no. We must suffer and endure them, every time. For goodness sakes. I thought we moved on from the torture of GTA V's online lobbies and in a day and age where you're competing against the likes of Fortnite & FIFA and you can be in a contest within moments of booting those games, These guys still can't even rip off any of their own previous game's for a pleasurable ride through it's menu's.

I really enjoy the on the pitch action, I really do but it seems with Konami, as usual, it's a complexity of 10 and an execution of 5 when it should be the other round in regards to the basics.
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I think the answer is possibly quite a simple one, unfortunately... They want it to work smoothly on a mobile screen.
Chris Davies said:
Am I the only one who finds it very difficult to block passing lanes when you successfully predict what the opponent is going to do? I find that my player just doesn't react to the ball that's slowly rolling right past him.

I'm surprised the eSports crowd haven't picked up on this, given that it's a "I did something clever and got no reward for it, disgusting" scenario.
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As others said, L2 for match up. But a couple things I've noticed:

the idea is match-up matches the pace of the player, so careful adding your sprint into the mix. If you're holding R2 and L2 to sprint into and cover a passing lane ahead of play, you'll often find your player's momentum takes him too far. This effect seems exaggerated when holding L2. Likewise, if you're using LS input and incorrectly guess the direction the player will try taking you on, you'll often trigger an intercepting animation on the wrong side that makes the player uncontrollable for many frames.

All this is what Kimura wanted to advertise so much – the new subtleties of 1-on-1 "duels". Some of it is quite well implemented and fun, but it does come at the cost of realism at times. E.g., as you've found out, if you're not holding a particular button, the player's awareness radius extends about as far as his penis. Which is just... rubbish. That lack of "automation" caters to the needs of the mUh SkiLl GaP crowd, unfortunately.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Wait a sec, is this game actually good now?
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Good is too strong a word! It's OKish, mostly offline/ vs AI events, and online has a pretty bad delay. The gameplay is super basic, the passing feels like on rails, so if you do the minimum of right passing and timing in defense and offense, you will win every match, maybe that is why some ppl start to like it.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Wait a sec, is this game actually good now?
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Depends what you value in a football sim.

If you like on-ball controls to be fairly responsive, you like to beat a man with deft touches or skills, and you like a defensive game which focuses on jockeying and covering lanes – it's very promising.

If you like realistic team shapes, varied and adaptive AI strategies – it's a mixed bag. Some genuine new things and improvements but also simplified perhaps to a fault.

If you like realistic ball physics, it's atrocious.

There's more ways to divide this and more analysis to be had of course.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Wait a sec, is this game actually good now?
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- no content
- no mods
- basic graphics even on next gen
- shooting could use more variation and error
- keepers are still bit floaty and awkward
- there are still some skating animations
+ best AI in a football game
+ best balanced attacking-defending gameplay mechanics in a football game
+ best player inertia in a football game
+ best dribbling in a football game
+ bunch of new lovely animation
+ online connection is pretty solid
+ you can play vs ai in Dream Team( MyClub)
 
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