eFootball (All Platforms)

vialli82 said:
Graphics are the only things i don't think it looks bad. Not at all, sincerely, like i said there's missing details but all is fine. Not the issue at all to me.
But physics and the rest yes, it's a complete pre-beta shit. And those circle, the "life" in the game, no, it's ISS N64 we got here, it's looking so kitsch.
Am i the only one thinkin that way?
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Some positives for me were the jumpers cloth physics moving as the players jogged. Even though it was all the same animation it looked OK. The stadium shots & the players entering the stadium was cool too. It's just everything after kick-off that gets me :BORED:
 
Sovereign Hope said:
Player's movement is good with better inertia, momentum but responsiveness and awereness are suspect.
A lot of missplaced passes which is good.
But graphic looks bad
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When I’ve seen the stumble animations, the old ones, the ones that take much to long to recover from, then I’ve already seen enough…
it’s just one simple example. I could go on… but it’s all been said by a bunch of users before.

seems like the train hasn’t left the station… it bypassed the whole city… I was outta town anyway…;)
 
Rip-IssPesFifa said:
The circles underneath players are a monstrosity what on earth are they about?
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Is this supposed to be a next gen game? Looks like they've been recycling cutscenes since PES 20 freaking 14. JESUS it's so hideous. And that camera zoom during gameplay is just awful. Animations are still outdated. Even if Konami pay me to play this game, I'd never do it. Still can't believe that this is worth 2 years of development.
 
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Danny Henry said:
I kind of like it to be honest. Animations, dribbling and ball phisics looks better than any football game I ever see. I would definitely play this if it had an offline mode.
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Im with you mate. Apart from graphics, im quite optimistic about it.
I see a lot of randomness, ball is a independed entity, running animations look explosive and smooth, i can see the inertia and momentum presence there.

On the other hand i see a lot of KONAMI's legacy issues, like bad awareness, silly standing tackles, bad colllision physics, weird ball physics.
Lets wait and see.
 
According to Adam there is some official upcoming news & impressions about the gameplay. He doesn't state exactly when or exactly what but maybe we might see some actual HD capture footage or more news about controls 🤞.....
 

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Danny Henry said:
I kind of like it to be honest. Animations, dribbling and ball phisics looks better than any football game I ever see. I would definitely play this if it had an offline mode.
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The thing is i'm so embarassed about the bugs (physical/graphical), that even if the rest isn't that bad as i thinked, and i don't found the game honestly "horrible", than that level off buggyness erase all the good things to me.
It makes me think that we will saw things even worste games after games. So i will personnally patiently wait for that game, and try to get in my memory that it's only a beta and a dumb decision of date release. But it will looks way better in like i said very earlier, more or less 3 months.
I won't play it before start 2022 then.

What i saw, overally in gameplay, seems to have variety, not so bad animations, and overally seems well balanced. Much more than the other game. And even more dynamic than some previous PES title in terms of AI, and i talk about the best ones.
 
flokiman said:
Im with you mate. Apart from graphics, im quite optimistic about it.
I see a lot of randomness, ball is a independed entity, running animations look explosive and smooth, i can see the inertia and momentum presence there.

On the other hand i see a lot of KONAMI's legacy issues, like bad awareness, silly standing tackles, bad colllision physics, weird ball physics.
Lets wait and see.
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Promising, that's the word. But we will have to wait some patches for it to be (really) debugged. Perhaps a simple day one patch will be enough as those bugs are so obvious than they should be "obviously" saw and corrected as soon as possible.
Edit/ But even if there's Fox mixed with Unreal... To me it looks like a very very different game. I saw tons of differents reactions, animations etc.
So yes i believe they rushed like fools during let's say 8 months with some basis and rebuilded half of the game, switching some basis to another basis, to be playable.

Then they'll see the bugs after. But it looks like it's going on the right direction... But running a bit too fast in terms of developpemement, soon soon release to get soon soon money
 
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vialli82 said:
Graphics are the only things i don't think it looks bad. Not at all, sincerely, like i said there's missing details but all is fine. Not the issue at all to me.
But physics and the rest yes, it's a complete pre-beta shit. And those circle, the "life" in the game, no, it's ISS N64 we got here, it's looking so kitsch.
Am i the only one thinkin that way?
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I think these circles will have an option to be turned off (better be :))) ) , it is similar to FIFA training controls that you can turn off as well.
 
Chuny said:
"The excessive negativity I see here has become normalised by so many"

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Even F2P, a bit of respect, it looks like PS4 Cyberpunk as they were obligated to release, as the time was counted (even sooner than them) and worked hard 15 days to compile it and make it possible to release.

Why always try to fight Fifa about dates? Or even football calendar? Your game is not finished, point.
Plus they're not in the same format anymore, so....
But we aren't normal people. Normal people wants the release ASAP even with his lots of bugs and disappearing stuffs. They want to PLAY.
We, in counterpart, would be happy to read "for the better, to provide the best experience, we decided to release the game for (example) 10 December 2021/Or even January 2022 (or February after transfers). Well, i'll be annoyed a bit as it's late, but i don't want to have a bad old taste in my mouth that will stay forever about the game. And normal people would be very, very unhappy, even if they would have said "30 october"
 
Isslander said:
This game was not two years in development. You saw the teaser they made last year, they were going to make a next gen game. Somewhere in that progress, they decided there was an easier way to make money, and here we are.
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It’s hard to understand what happened really. Also, Japanese developers are very lip tight about what goes behind closed doors ( unlike western developers who would have no problem seeking the press to spill the beans).

Not only we had that next gen trailer showcasing the new graphics of a game that’s nowhere to be seen, but let’s not forget that Kei Masuda also left (???) the franchise. Suddenly we were presented with a new lead director out of nowhere.

We had as many explanations and info about Masuda exit from Konami, as we had about where is that game showed in the Messi trailer.

Did the pandemic played a part in all this? It’s plausible to think so (very much).

I said before here, I believe that PES 2022 (the Messi trailer) exists in some form. Probably in a very early stage of development, but those games assets are likely shelved in some Konami server waiting to be used in the future (probably when mobile hardware will be able to run some that stuff, and parts of it will be applied on future Efootball games).

The key words in this Efootball game are F2P and cross play. And the biggest problem in the development resides in the cross play part.

There’s limitations when your developing a game on mobile and next gen hardware and have cross play between both platforms.The game can’t be made equal and the solution to this problem his obvious, you have to “dumb down” the game on the most powerful hardware.

The ideia of having cross play with mobile devices ( who’s the console or pc player who wants to play with a mobile player? It doesn’t make sense) hinders the development, the ambition and evolution of the game.

That’s the biggest problem here, a problem Konami made for themselves.
 
The gameplay actually looks somewhat promising.
Everything else looks like crap though.

Around Christmas I guess that we have a 6/10 game.
 
vialli82 said:
We, in counterpart, would be happy to read "for the better, to provide the best experience, we decided to release the game for (example) 10 December 2021/Or even January 2022 (or February after transfers).
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They already did that, remember? PES 2021 SEASON UPDATE?
And we were all on board. Thinking PES 2022 would be huge. Konami have finally understood that they need to take their time in order to build a truly next-gen groundbreaking football game. We were happy to wait.

Look where that got us. A half-baked, incomplete, stripped-down game. And, might I add, not so different to PES 2020/2021.
Because when you see this new eFootball thing, you can absolutely tell it's still PES. Everything looks more or less the same. So what have they been doing for the past 3 years?.
 
sun7 said:
There’s limitations when your developing a game on mobile and next gen hardware and have cross play between both platforms.The game can’t be made equal and the solution to this problem his obvious, you have to “dumb down” the game on the most powerful hardware.
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You can also make 2 games in one application. And switch to the dumbest when you encounter a Mobile user online if you choose it.
What a Mobile game, seriously, would "cost" in terms of Gigas to be included in the same application, on a PS5???
Nothing. Really nothing. Except if they builded the game for Nasa's phones. But current phone... Please guys
 
It's a little bit like when we were kids and mother asked you to go to the store to get some things for dinner. She'd give you a list.
And instead, you went to the game store, then hung around with some friends you met in the streets.
Then, you went back home with less than half of the items on the list she had given you, 2 hours later. And your mother'd ask you: Where have you been all this time? And why did you only get half of the things I told you to buy? AND WHERE DID YOU GET THAT NEW GAME?.
 
Chuny said:
They already did that, remember? PES 2021 SEASON UPDATE?
And we were all on board. Thinking PES 2022 will be huge. Konami have finally understood that they need to take their time in order to build a truly next-gen groundbreaking football game. We were happy to wait.

Look where that got us. A half-baked, incomplete, stripped-down game. And, might I add, not so different to PES 2020/2021.
Because when you see this new eFootball thing, you can absolutely tell it's still PES. Everything looks more or less the same. So what have they been doing for the past 3 years?.
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Well there wasn't any next-gen console when 2021 version was out, so...
-They've changed Director in the middle of something, and he choose to makes mobiles. Perhaps a things happened in intern we never know about Masuda and/or Kimura purposing a most interesting plan.

To my opinion, Masuda project was too much time taking and pissed off the big boss of Konami itself, and he didn't gived a damn about Covid situation. They probably switched for that reason. But that's my theory. Why Kei Masuda has left and Kimura was promoted.
 
vialli82 said:
Well there wasn't any next-gen console when 2021 version was out, so...
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Not to the public.
But companies get early builds of consoles to start building their next-gen games so that by the time the consoles are out to the public, there are actual next-gen games to play and content to promote the new hardwore.
Do you think Konami and EA didn't have early versions of PS5 to start preparing their games?.
PS5 launched last November. Do you think developers only started working on games for PS5 on November 2020?.
 
Isslander said:
"Improved ball physics... we never said anything about pitch physics though!!"
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The AI in the first video only has one way of approaching the goal, pretty sure they always go up the same side as well. Normal crosses seem to be forbidden, even the human player seems to be resorting to short passes from every set play, no doubt looking for or having already found potential exploits.
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Gravity is coming in December DLC
 
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