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- 30 July 2021
- Team
- Manchester United
Both of you are ok. I am HIGHLY dissapointed and really angered with this eFootball, in first place, because Fox Engine is still the physics engine and UE is only renderer, and is probably quite bad designed. In second place, because they decided to build over a mobile game, yet the engine is the same so there might be a chance that gameplay is NOT THAT BAD, not a high chance, but there is still some light.
But... I try to be positive. I see this game as Konami trying to get money and time to maybe later resurrect PES with a game that really pleases hardcore fans.
Cause sooner or later, they will have to make the jump into UE, but honestly, i preffer them to make a F2P game that they can use to learn how to code and work with UE than a completely mess that they have to rearrange in later yearly entries, all of them being medium quality, and all of them being charged full price.
Tbh, like a customer, I don't think this strategy is THAT BAD. It pleases both of us as long as they make a later entry that aims to actually be next-gen, something they will sooner or later have to make cause there you have already UFL built completely in UE and probably having better animations. And it pleases both of us because if it is shit, we are not forced to pay a single penny, and let's them learn the code, and Konami will make some decent amount of money with 0 effort, but at the same time, if they eventually want to keep updated with their game, they will need to make an eFootball 2 with full next-gen graphics and physics, and that's the one I will be interested in.
In the meanwhile? I will have plenty of options. PES 2021 modded for off-line play, PES 2014 modded aswell, maybe going back to FIFA 2022 if modding scene manages to give a more sim feeling, UFL for online play, and even eFootball if at the end is NOT THAT BAD, and modders can work on their off-line part.
So my message, guys, is... Don't get mad, we have plenty of options, this is a transition game, and better times will come. Worst scenario is eFootball is a failure, and maybe Konami dies. We will still have old PES made up till the momment, and maybe with the time code becomes available if it becomes abandonware. If that happens, maybe UFL decides to go with an off-line mode, who knows. Another option is eFootball is a failure, Konami exploits another saga, and finally decide to go back with PES, having in count FIFA is quite shitty. And other option, that is the most probable one, is that eFootball is not a big failure, but not either a big success, and finally they do a second game full next-gen, without crossplay to mobiles, and all comes to it's place.
Is quite obvious that for 2 or 3 years we will have eFootball, and I am sure that this game won't be good enough, and after 2 or 3 years, when next-gen is already current one, they will have to develop a new game if they want to have any player playing their game. If they don't, people working in Konami maybe go to Strikerz, Strikerz do an off-line mode having more people and maybe on-line success, and we will have a replacement (and maybe a better one) to PES. If Konami decides to develop eFootball 2, it will be fully next-gen and as I said, probably not cross-platform, because they will have seen how much of a bad idea is that, and actually they will have already this upcoming eFootball for that purpose. And if they finally make a sequel in UE, they will have gotten already experience as to not make a mess.
We will see, the near future is quite shitty, but in 2 or 3 years, things will change, you will see.
Thanks for your positive approach in this regard. In the end maintaining good opinions or not doesn't matter, because all we're in the same boat here and we've been tricked. Actually their plan is to develop eFootball for a long period and just update it eventually every season. They want to release a demo as a full product (even if its f2p), with less gameplay mechanics, without the R stick (simplified controls), simplified UI, then adding online content into it that will not be free at all. Most people from this forum on EvoWeb community are offline fanatics / modders / content creators, people that had enjoyed the content of PES during many years (the release date every year was like a Christmas for them), but now in a blink of an eye everything is gone. Not to mention that are people with youtube channels like Spoony Pizzas, TheTrueBrits, KnightMD, PESStoryMode, etc., where their main focus was mostly centered in offline modes, and now they can't produce their content anymore until next year, and that if eventually Konami will decide to implement some offline modes.
The main problem here is not the gameplay or the graphics/animations, but the direction and the path that this company was taking during the last 6 years. If you let the criticism about graphics and animations aside, there are others problems bigger here that are not that much questioned as they should: Why F2P? Why cross-play with MOBILES? Why SIMPLIFIED controls & UI aesthetic made for TOUCH SCREENS that will be implemented on consoles/PC? Nobody as gaming platform consumers asked them to implement all of this crap & they could easily stayed this year just with the console/PC cross platform EXCLUDING entirely the PHONES, maintaining the same (FULL/LIGHT VERSION) formula if they can't take the plunge yet into UE5 (that btw was falsely advertised with that teaser).
The only focus that they have is to use the same app for both: consoles and phone users to maximize profit via virtual currency, because their mobile version was generating in the past years lots of f2p downloads = big revenue in microtransactions, and was a success for them including now the objective to spread this filth further into the consoles/PC gaming market...
In the end I knew that this day will come, because all their franchises like Castlevania, SH & MGS were killed silently in a similar fashion, and PES was their only product still "alive". If you have big hopes for eFootball, well actually good for you. I respect that and I hope you'll find into it what you really want, but in my particular case (besides that those f2p are not my type), I'll reject it completely just because of their shady direction: one sheeshhly and cowardly taken...
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