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Chris Davies said:
The following screenshot is from the official "season update" announcement Konami made a year ago:

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"We recognise that many of you are enthusiastic for new myClub and Master League content,
and we are also excited to share that large updates are in the works for both of these modes."

It's so hard not to be angry when you read that.

It 100% feels like the trailer was made, Covid happened, plans were ditched, and here we are.
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We can’t use COVID as an excuse for
Konami cos EA are in the same boat and they have a shown lot more content
 
Really disappionting.

But with a Raodmap and Zero Content? Looks like Early Access. So maybe they skipped the Plans for a Next Gen Version in the Year and Konami is broke.

What is with mobile Licences? I know that Konami had the Bundesliga Licences for Mobile Games.
 
Chris Davies said:
The following screenshot is from the official "season update" announcement Konami made a year ago:

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"We recognise that many of you are enthusiastic for new myClub and Master League content,
and we are also excited to share that large updates are in the works for both of these modes."

It's so hard not to be angry when you read that.

It 100% feels like the trailer was made, Covid happened, plans were ditched, and here we are.
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They could have apologized at least, not that it would matter but that's just blatant lies
 
For the record, I do not believe there ever was this super-duper next-gen version that they shelved to focus on a mobile port. They said it themselves in the IGN interview that this vision was set out 2 years ago. The Messi teaser was likely a maxed out render with static lighting created for that specific scene, and what you get after the necessary downgrade to make it run on consoles as well as the apparently shoddy global lighting solutions and lack of ambient occlusion is what you see in the trailer. The Messi model in the new trailer most likely is the one from the teaser, this is fairly clear if you pause at 1:03, but once transported into the game they seem to bear little relation due to lighting, texture quality etc. It's also no surprise that the close up Messi teaser is all they ever showed, it was smoke and mirrors from the beginning, if they had shown even a glimpse of the game itself the illusion would have been broken. The community tricked itself into thinking something incredible was coming when there was never any hard evidence for it (i.e. anything more than the odd tweet about photorealism).

SJ321 said:
It makes no difference to the end result but I do wonder if Konami devs were actually making a next generation version of PES and that's why we saw the Messi thing they released a while back, however the Konami bigwigs decided they couldn't justify the cost (maybe Covid played a part also) and canned it during the development stage and asked them to make this glorified mobile game instead.
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Pete.Mosh said:
Really disappionting.

But with a Raodmap and Zero Content? Looks like Early Access. So maybe they skipped the Plans for a Next Gen Version in the Year and Konami is broke.

What is with mobile Licences? I know that Konami had the Bundesliga Licences for Mobile Games.
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Only for Pes Card Collector
 
Chris Davies said:
Is anyone realistically waiting around for that? If they dangle the ML carrot in-front of us and anyone bites, given that the AI is now made for online play, I'll be sad to see it. If you like myClub, and you care more about fun than football, you might like eFootball. If you don't, you won't.
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I just hope that I can have the same offline modes like previous PES, that's all
Gameplaywise let's assume the game will be the same as last year with tweaks
I've seen the trailer 5x already, it simply looks like PES 2021 season update to me, graphically and motionwise
 
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Pique is obviously having a great time with the Konami guys ... This is the FN first time you show your product to the world and you use all the footage where this guy seems so incredibly bored. I still can't believe what we witnessed today...
 
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Pique is obviously having a great time with the Konami guys ... This is the FN first time you show your product to the world and you use all the footage where this guy seems so incredibly bored. I still can't believe what we witnessed today...
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Isn't the conversation bizarre? There doesn't seem to be a real aim of the call, other than:

"Tell us - what is this thing you humans call, 'foot and ball'?"
 
Spursfan07 said:
Nope, not even any news or screens on PES 2022 since the teaser
Anyone noticed that the statement of the future of PES doesn’t actually say anything of it to be PES 2022? I mean, Konami could like literally set us on the wrong foot on here because you know... Konami... lol
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Found my comment from a couple of months ago, holy shit that this actually has been the case
 
RIP Pro Evolution Soccer/Winning Eleven series.

It feels as if an old friend passed away after a long period of suffering, a very melancholic feeling.

Thank you Seabass. I will forever have we9le, Pes 5 and 6 close to my heart.

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And to the rest of you all, my condolences.
 
I think this could confirm (I suppose) rumors that Konami is not doing well and that another company could acquire it and would be one of their last plays.

This move suggests that they don't mind sacrifice hardcore fan base in order to create a game that generates profits through microtransactions: If their bet works they will continue to release these types of games, if it doesn't work it wouldn't matter since it would means a fatal blow for Konami.

Either way is a lose-lose for hardcore fans we saw the glory of our beloved WE / PES born and achieve.
 
raul_ole said:
This situation shows how nowdays people are. How easy is to judge with no brain, no assesment, no thinking through. Just to give a hate
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raul_ole said:
It was clearly said online test, dont look on anything else. Its not even named efootball orr next pes. No official annoucement. People are looking for a sensation
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Should I quote more? Not that I need it for anything, but did anyone from those people like raul_ole above actually admitted they were talking stright bs things like that? Now all of a sudden they are on the other side of the fence. Take a humbling lesson from that, so you react different way next time guys.
 
ojejku said:
Should I quote more? Not that I need it for anything, but did anyone from those people like raul_ole above actually admitted they were talking stright bs things like that? Now all of a sudden they are on the other side of the fence. Take a humbling lesson from that, so you react different way next time guys.
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What's your point? Why do this?
 
ojejku said:
Should I quote more? Not that I need it for anything, but did anyone from those people like raul_ole above actually admitted they were talking stright bs things like that? Now all of a sudden they are on the other side of the fence. Take a humbling lesson from that, so you react different way next time guys.
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its999maggle said:
What's your point? Why do this?
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Yeah, we are all losers in this scenario. Not much point making it worse. We need to come together right now, if anything.
 
its999maggle said:
What's your point? Why do this?
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Don't have any point in this as I mentioned. There were like 50 pages here of pushing back and forth with post like that, adding nothing to the discussion just trying to defend already dead thing. That's all. So as @Chris Davies mentioned much point making it worse, I'll stop here.

Anyway, my condolences to PES 🕯️ and all of us 🕯️
 
ojejku said:
Don't have any point in this as I mentioned. There were like 50 pages here of pushing back and forth with post like that, adding nothing to the discussion just trying to defend already dead thing. That's all. So as @Chris Davies mentioned much point making it worse, I'll stop here.

Anyway, my condolences to PES 🕯️
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So why attack them?
 
Ximelez said:
This would make a lot of sense to me, and connects a few dots at least in my mind.

The transition to unreal is to unify the game across multiple platforms imo to make it f2p with myclub/ esports focus and the ability to switch platforms almost seamlessly with the same account (carry over your myclub team or whatever). Hence why the next gen version is basically an advanced mobile game.

Seemingly a lot of the staff, particularly on the marketing side leaving as well makes sense as you don’t really need to advertise a free game as hard as when people are paying £50 for it. I mean, you literally don’t need to sell it.

The “testing” of the online aspect with the beta in a way that we’ve not seen before is because they couldn’t pull off the f2p myclub/ esports strategy with sub par online performance.

The radio silence so far with the mid July announcement is probably because it’s going to be a shocker.

Essentially, I see it as the end of PES and a new game by the name of EFOOTBALL which is an multi platform f2p game with the same business model as something like Fortnite.

I’m sure I’ve seen in previous press media that they’re still going to have a Master League mode but I wouldn’t be surprised if the single player aspects of the game have to be paid for as add-ons.
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Yep
 
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