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Chuny said:
My first comment on this matter will be: I'm sorry for being so naive to think the "New Football Game" test was just that. Boy was I wrong.
Sorry @rojofa you were right!


I just can't put into words how I feel right now.
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Same here. I thought it'd be similar, but releasing a game in this state, without offline modes from the start and getting rid of PES as a trademark just defines the relationship KONAMI had with the fans in the last 6 years or so.

I guess we the community will have to start making the old games (including PES2021) the best we can. As we've always done.
 
Filippo-Inzaghi said:
I'm actually sad. Deeply sad in a way that I'm a bit surprised over myself.

Please guys.. Do not fool yourself and hope for any offline mode at all. It's over and it's FIFA's shallow experience or nothing from here.

I'm not at all surprised that they didn't manage the transition in terms of marketing.. Totally hopeless really, but it's not an easy one.

You are really far when you as a brand decide to abrubtly cut off your foundation.

New people to the series / FUT type of players would probably expect that this is rather sooner than later.
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Yes. I feel exactly the same way.
I feel sort of desolated (for lack of a better word) right now. Then I say to myself "it's just a freaking game, your life is still the same as it was yesterday". But I just can't shake that feeling off of me.
 
Chuny said:
Yes. I feel exactly the same way.
I feel sort of desolated (for lack of a better word) right now. Then I say to myself "it's just a freaking game, your life is still the same as it was yesterday". But I just can't shake that feeling off of me.
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Most of us feel it mate, as most of our childhood (even till today) is filled with playing this title... to realize that it may come to an end is just sad :(
It is just a game, but it also not just a game
 
I wonder what the repercussions will be regarding the big licenses they still have.
Surely Barcelona and Juventus won't want to be a part of it and will want to go back to FIFA. Probably Bayern's Allianz Arena as well.

I can't see those big clubs wanted to be associated with this 'game' anymore.
 
Chuny said:
I think @Durandil67 may have a point here:






The pandemic must have altered their plans.
Maybe the bigger heads at Japan changed everything somewhere after the initial teaser last year and it turned everything upside down.
Or maybe I just want to make it make sense.
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I really don't think so... read again what staffan wrote:
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For the record, I do not believe there ever was this super-duper next-gen version that they shelved to focus on a mobile port. They said it themselves in the IGN interview that this vision was set out 2 years ago. The Messi teaser was likely a maxed out render with static lighting created for that specific scene, and what you get after the necessary downgrade to make it run on consoles as well as the apparently shoddy global lighting solutions and lack of ambient occlusion is what you see in the trailer. The Messi model in the new trailer most likely is the one from the teaser, this is fairly clear if you pause at 1:03, but once transported into the game they seem to bear little relation due to lighting, texture quality etc. It's also no surprise that the close up Messi teaser is all they ever showed, it was smoke and mirrors from the beginning, if they had shown even a glimpse of the game itself the illusion would have been broken. The community tricked itself into thinking something incredible was coming when there was never any hard evidence for it (i.e. anything more than the odd tweet about photorealism).
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And then think about the fact that for several years now we've seen them mention esports, push PES League, push their mobile game and do crossover promotions with myClub on console, seen the mobile game rocket in popularity, introduce a branding change a few years ago ("eFootball" prefix), register the eFootball trademark...

It's really very likely they were planning this for some time. Also think about Konami as a company: literally all of its IP has stagnated, they announced they were focusing on mobile a while back.
 
Winning Eleven 2002 was the first time I got in contact with PES series. I was playing with a friend back home, had a good time together (although I was crying because I'm losing a game, so much that he had to score own goals). However I haven't played any other WE/PES titles since...
...well, until middle school when I caught my friends playing WE 9 and PES 6 on their netbooks. I was pretty attracted by how the game plays and how it brought some classmates together, so I went on and got one installed in my old netbook. Not only the game caught my interest so much, but it also where I first got my interest in football in general.

I obviously have some more fond memories of the series, and it's pretty sad how horrible decisions, alienating some of their fanbases, radio silences, and half-assed marketing PR ruins the series. But this one takes a cake in so many level, they finally admit that they no longer cater long-time fans and divert their attention to young millenials and casual gamers who only cares about cosmetic stuffs. As a Gen Z, it's disappointing because I'm one of select few that enjoys the older games in the series.

In the end, though, money wins. Konami wants to follow Fortnite route with their Season Pass that brought Epic Games money, and if it worked for them, why not follow them? In turn, they decided to sacrifice their focus on offline stuffs, thinking that it's not profitable in long term. Shame, but that's how gaming nowadays.

Now it's a perfect time to come back to older PES games, especially PES 6. Also seeing that modding scene in 2021 is the strongest I've seen in years, I could dive into it some time.

RIP PES, thanks for the good memories. You'll be missed.
 
Abishek said:
I'm from India and these blokes are an embarrassment. All they know is mobile gaming.
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I'm Pakistani , and yeah the mobile gaming thing is pretty big too although barely any people play PES or FIFA on mobile, but still, Free to play and micro transactions model were always supported by mobile "gamers" which made game companies confident that this model is the way to go to earn revenue, now all the revenue Konami lost in last 2-3 years with low sales, trust me they will make it all of it back (and more) within 10-12 months of this eFootball PES 2022 (It pains to even think if this was gonna be a new iteration of PES, In a way it's for the better that this garbage isn't associated with the PES name) with New football game upscaled graphics for next gen and messi looking like shrek thing out in September,October
 
janguv said:
I really don't think so... read again what staffan wrote:

And then think about the fact that for several years now we've seen them mention esports, push PES League, push their mobile game and do crossover promotions with myClub on console, seen the mobile game rocket in popularity, introduce a branding change a few years ago ("eFootball" prefix), register the eFootball trademark...

It's really very likely they were planning this for some time. Also think about Konami as a company: literally all of its IP has stagnated, they announced they were focusing on mobile a while back.
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Yeah that makes sense too.
But why would the game producer go on and on talking about photorealism in that interview we got about a month or two ago?.
 
They 100% sold Neymar on the mobile numbers too. That makes a lot of sense. Those number are through the roof compared to consoles. That's where their new money is.
 
Chuny said:
I wonder what the repercussions will be regarding the big licenses they still have.
Surely Barcelona and Juventus won't want to be a part of it and will want to go back to FIFA. Probably Bayern's Allianz Arena as well.

I can't see those big clubs wanted to be associated with this 'game' anymore.
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Or maybe we are living in a closed world here and the mobile scene is the New reality where EFOOTBALL is strong and dominant when It comes to sport games
 
Chuny said:
I wonder what the repercussions will be regarding the big licenses they still have.
Surely Barcelona and Juventus won't want to be a part of it and will want to go back to FIFA. Probably Bayern's Allianz Arena as well.

I can't see those big clubs wanted to be associated with this 'game' anymore.
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Bro I will take a partnership with EA happily, after all , EA surely will give us more money than Konami will (and at the current situation of the club, every ounce of money is needed!) and if we can get these videos back: They had these for FIFA 14,15,16 and I loved these videos and for other clubs too, also if you guys look at the snippets of FIFA 22 gameplay out there, you can see some good elements of PES 2020/2021 taken by EA.. you just need to look and you'll find the good elements of those 2 games in those snippets of gameplay - hate to admit it, but EA are smart, and if they didn't know that this huge backlash and disaster by Konami was coming up, well now they know that they have all control of Console / PC Offline (and Online) Football Video games
 
Bogo36 said:
Can we Just mention that they bought around 30.000 likes for the eFootball 2022 Trailer?

Just look and compare the Like/View Ratio of other Videos.
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Nope, it's true man, alot of mobile players easily flocked and liked this, since they are who the game is for, the likes are real , and it's sad, at least we will be happy knowing the dislikes are also real, and that people with sense still exist!
 
Chuny said:
Yeah that makes sense too.
But why would the game producer go on and on talking about photorealism in that interview we got about a month or two ago?.
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the graphics are certainly gonna be somewhat photorealistic for MOBILE gamers who aren't used to such graphics, and usually have much worse, so it'll be photo realistic for them i guess, so it's not even like they were lying , but for console and pc , this is false advertising to an extent
 
Chris Davies said:
Argentina won the Copa América for you this year; this is the price. You can't have it all. :LOL:
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Italy won Eurocup and i was so happy

But today was like punch on the stomach, i'm sad but never surrender

I'm finding someone else to face Konami


He is agree with me

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