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Series X beta still doesn't work for me. Doesn't seem like I'm missing a lot anyway, just another month until I spend an entire year cursing my purchase once again.
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Best thing is to wait for launch time and try the trial version on EA Play. In my experience, I understand it better hands-on, than when people talk about it or show itThis time last year, the FC24 thread had 32 pages - almost double the number of this thread. Doesn't feel like there's much hype this year. (Was hoping for some more beta thoughts, especially on "sim mode".)![]()
I think there are a couple of reasons for this.This time last year, the FC24 thread had 32 pages - almost double the number of this thread. Doesn't feel like there's much hype this year. (Was hoping for some more beta thoughts, especially on "sim mode".)![]()
I think it's more of a reflection on the position of football games in general now, this is the only mainline iterative game in town now (eFootball rarely gets updates that are worth discussing) and FC is currently more of the same save the incremental updates to gameplay per year but there isn't much to analyse based on not very helpful footage and little feedback from the beta.This time last year, the FC24 thread had 32 pages - almost double the number of this thread. Doesn't feel like there's much hype this year. (Was hoping for some more beta thoughts, especially on "sim mode".)![]()
It might be in the game! But it might not stay in the game!https://x.com/Fifa_face/status/1824807784149311853
Not even released yet and it's been sped up in an update.
Sigh.
Yep. This has indeed happened already and FUT players are now happy.https://x.com/Fifa_face/status/1824807784149311853
Not even released yet and it's been sped up in an update.
Sigh.
They've grown up in a games industry made to be like that, so you can't blame them if they know no different.I will sound like a boomer,but new generation kids are such a cancer for football's videogames and whole videogames industry...
The industy offers what people ask..
Yeah, I swear if they had an alternative they'd play it. eFootball lives on (and makes Konami bags of money) even though it's a shell of a game in terms of content.They've grown up in a games industry made to be like that, so you can't blame them if they know no different.
I guess you are right,but i wonder if they really get fun from these (shallow) games or they are "brainwashed npc"They've grown up in a games industry made to be like that, so you can't blame them if they know no different.
This is an interesting subject to me - because the new sliders worry me a bit.
They feel like a very basic workaround to a much deeper problem - which is demonstrated by the way that higher difficulty AI hammers exploits (ping-pong tiki-taka tap-ins).
The AI doesn't utilise players based on their attributes to get the result - because it doesn't have to. Attributes don't prevent you from doing the actions that get goals. So, the AI simply stops crossing (because they rarely work) and sets up tap-ins instead (which are easy to create due to how static defenders are, and how accurate all players' passing is, and guarantees goals).
So now we have an "AI crossing" slider - but is forcing the AI to create worse chances and essentially handicapping it, seriously the solution to this problem? Rather than creating gameplay where crosses are actually valuable, as they are in real life, and tap-ins much much harder to pull off with every single team?
(This applies to much more - e.g. the AI never genuinely fouls because the engine isn't making it mistime attempts to get the ball, it simply brute-forces two-footed-lunges that aren't attempts to win the ball. The new "aggression" slider to force more deliberate fouls isn't fixing the game's defender/attacker balancing issue - i.e. the two rarely meet.)
I worry that, realistically, the view is that most people don't want to have to think about the player they're controlling. So I feel like this will never change.
Bit of an off topic, but not really.
This is a post Id like every football game developer to read, especially EA people, coz they are the ones who went completely overboard with turning all the players on the pitch into traffic cones in the name of "skill gap".
Keep in mind - this discussion had nothing to do with EAFC. We were talking about Pes17 AI vs Pes21 AI. But it's so relevant here, coz (especially) EA has completely lost their way post FIFA16.
https://evoweb.uk/threads/pes-2017-playstation-xbox-discussion-thread.76425/post-4087049
You cannot create good football game without AI. Both offline AND online.
It's a team sport. Part of the "skill gap" is to manage your AI team mates containing, runs and set them up for good passes. Everything has to be fluid.
Otherwise you have table soccer, where the only two active are the stickman who has the ball, and stickman who is trying to block it.
Unless, obviously, stickman football is a conscious decision and you are happy to listen to FUT players vision of the game.
But then don't get upset when people call your game a joke, or an insult to football fans.
I feel like it could get worse, without the FIFA license, it seems EA have more flexibility regarding rules and that, wouldn't be surprised if the more fantasy forms of football take over, even in comparison to what it is today.It's also funny that the people that hates on AI defending actually likes the older footie games where the AI was better at positioning and behavior. And since the involvement of hypermotion and 1v1, AI defensive/attacking positioning has been stagnant and predictable and to rectify it, EA introduced auto AI tackling where AI tackles perfectly for you which is not what we wanted. We wanted AI to positioning better and still have manual control over the tackling. EA's gameplay designer have 0 idea what the player really wants or what makes a game fun. And apparently EA's gameplay designer doesn't even watch or like football. Same thing is happening with PES. We have people who doesn't really understand football, making football games.
First of all mate, although we haven't tended to be a suspicious lot on here for the last two decades in regards to the paranormal and serial killers, you have to change that user name.I feel like it could get worse, without the FIFA license, it seems EA have more flexibility regarding rules and that, wouldn't be surprised if the more fantasy forms of football take over, even in comparison to what it is today.
It all sounds great, but I have this unshakeable feeling that if you play every player out of position, it will make little difference to the basketball "box to box" nature of the gameplay - because punishing the player seems to be a huge no-no.
Pretty sure kids will enjoy most games you throw at them. So if we had decent football games, they'd enjoy those too. When we were kids, we enjoyed pes and fifa games as well. Back then, I did not even know what simulation was, nor did I care. I played both and each of them felt different and fun in their own ways.They've grown up in a games industry made to be like that, so you can't blame them if they know no different.
why would anyone like running as a soldier with a duck head in call of duty? for them it's some kind of trolling, humiliating other players or they think it's funny (oh wow), because today everything must be funny and the boundaries of everything must be crossed. I was a child and I was interested in war in a more realistic version, I just didn't have a blank mind, today's children are just stupid, incapable of any thoughts