EA SPORTS FC 24
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Anth James
International
- 22 September 2017
FC's pitch notes regarding higher pressing and blocking passing lanes on the wing was what I was most curious about and after spending more time with the game it has definitely been implemented and brings about quite a big improvement. The CPU shape is less rigid than before.
For context, I've already started working on gameplay modding to bring everything back down to earth, but I haven't touched the positioning or behaviour at all yet, so these pictures are default defensive work.
For context, I've already started working on gameplay modding to bring everything back down to earth, but I haven't touched the positioning or behaviour at all yet, so these pictures are default defensive work.
TheWolf
Premier League
Figured I'd try and play a game against Burnley to see if the flashy stuff calmed down a bit with a mediocre(ish) team. Within 10 seconds, 2 Burnley players did no-look flicks and that was enough for me, I had to turn it off.
Even though playstyles and playstyles+ look similar to older system (player traits), i think this year's system make more impact than older system. If your player has playstyles +, you can definitely tell that he has it. For example, players like Grealish and Tadic was useless in older games because of the lack of pace. Yes, you could use them, but they were a lot less impactful than real life version of themselves. But in this game, they have "press proven" playstyles and you can definitely feel the difference than previous games. They are really good at shielding and protecting the ball and creating chances from wings in this game and they do not feel useless like recent games.
Abysmal.
If you've ever had the misfortune of "playing" the FIFA Mobile game, that's what EA FC 24 (and the past few FIFA titles) reminds me of; attack vs defend. That's all this is. It's as if they drew all of their inspiration from slap fighting, where brutish, Eastern European men attempt to smack the soul out of each other until someone clinches the final blow.
"Ok, I'll hit you!"
"Alright, shall I hit you back?"
"Exactly, now I go again."
Ad-nauseam until you've realized that a mere 30 in-game minutes have passed and more goals have been scored than the entirety of Chelsea's 2022/2023 season. Looking for a simplistic game of back-and-forth? Look no further to what Pong achieved in 1972. Ah, but Pong isn't packed to capacity with flashy unwrapping animations, fireworks, and predatory pop and circumstance to entice its potentialprey customers. The witch from Hansel and Gretel makes for a fine consultant for this ongoing mockery of the sport.
It's like a prying open a phantom bag of chips, but you're met with nothing but stale air and the fleeting appreciation of the colorful, stylish packaging designed to house the disappointment within. You crack a wry smile before ultimately, tossing it in the bin along with your hopes and regret. Out of sight, out of mind. The little solace I can take from all of this is that it "only" cost me nominal subscription fee to reaffirm my annual football game related amnesia.
If you've ever had the misfortune of "playing" the FIFA Mobile game, that's what EA FC 24 (and the past few FIFA titles) reminds me of; attack vs defend. That's all this is. It's as if they drew all of their inspiration from slap fighting, where brutish, Eastern European men attempt to smack the soul out of each other until someone clinches the final blow.
"Ok, I'll hit you!"
"Alright, shall I hit you back?"
"Exactly, now I go again."
Ad-nauseam until you've realized that a mere 30 in-game minutes have passed and more goals have been scored than the entirety of Chelsea's 2022/2023 season. Looking for a simplistic game of back-and-forth? Look no further to what Pong achieved in 1972. Ah, but Pong isn't packed to capacity with flashy unwrapping animations, fireworks, and predatory pop and circumstance to entice its potential
It's like a prying open a phantom bag of chips, but you're met with nothing but stale air and the fleeting appreciation of the colorful, stylish packaging designed to house the disappointment within. You crack a wry smile before ultimately, tossing it in the bin along with your hopes and regret. Out of sight, out of mind. The little solace I can take from all of this is that it "only" cost me nominal subscription fee to reaffirm my annual football game related amnesia.
Needless to say, I think it's a bit shit.
I got my hands on the trial yesterday and the day before. After spending half an hour to turn everything off in this really overloaded gameplay - and controller settings I managed to play 4 and a half games so far (the half game was with default sliders, the rest with Matt's). Well, to say the positive it's not worse than FIFA 23. I really could imagine to get some fun out of the game till the first gameplay patch kicks in. At least the variety is what stands out, the rest is the well known skating-non defending-clipping fest.
But what I havn't read anywhere from someone else, yesterday I had terrible stuttering when playing. I had to restart a match then it was okay, but in replays it was still there. Looked like a whole bunch of frames where missing every few seconds. (Can't describeit better). Playing on xbox series x. Anyone else experienced this?
But what I havn't read anywhere from someone else, yesterday I had terrible stuttering when playing. I had to restart a match then it was okay, but in replays it was still there. Looked like a whole bunch of frames where missing every few seconds. (Can't describeit better). Playing on xbox series x. Anyone else experienced this?
Anth James
International
- 22 September 2017
Further to this, check out this screenshot below....
The midfield (and general off-ball positioning )is so much more engaged with regards to the context of the ball compared to anything we got from FIFA 20, 21, 22, 23. Players on my team and the CPU are organically moving and adjusting based on where the ball is. Credit where it's due as this is exactly what I was trying to push for! If we're going to have 1v1 in the game then we need all the help we can get, and this definitely helps.
It gives so much more hope with modding. It's day 2 of trying to mod this and I'm already so much further along than I've been previously at this time. There's a lot of subtle additions in game here that are really good. Don't get me wrong though, there's still plenty of things that need addressing and tightening up as well, but there's a lot more here as a core.
I know if you're playing this out of the box it's got layers of other issues, but I spent so long on 23 that I have a very good idea of how to strip a lot of that back and trust me, it's playing very well for where we're at.
In terms of the pic, if this was 20,21,22 or 23 the midfield would just be sitting in a flat three staring straight ahead. They're not just sitting in a rigid shape now, it's moving as it needs to adjust to the ball carrier.
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Yes I get a stutter when the new stats screens appear just for a second nothing game breaking.
I had it in-game while playing.
DarthKebab
Fully Assisted Noob
- 11 May 2008
Did someone say there was a new patch? Couldn’t see one on the Xbox last night
Anth James
International
- 22 September 2017
I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed, and if it's just a PC thing, but manual passing doesn't seem to be working at all? It still feels auto....Anyone else??
There's also a few issues where you can't actually change the weather or camera settings even when it's set to 'Custom'. It seems to be only sometimes when I start the game. Hopefully these are day 1 update fixes..
There's also a few issues where you can't actually change the weather or camera settings even when it's set to 'Custom'. It seems to be only sometimes when I start the game. Hopefully these are day 1 update fixes..
s33k3rgr
League 1
- 30 January 2005
I am on PC. I've tried manual and semi and i think that there is obvious difference between the two. Its just that manual seems a bit more guided that it was in 23.
Probably a link to that animation lock option. All the controller options are insane, need a degree before playing. The irony being you could be 2yo and be good at the actual game.
Bought the 10 hour trial. Got through a few matches.
The "good' is that game shape and teammate AI is much better. Ball physics are even better. That's about it I think.
The art direction re the pitch is an abomination. The players also feel even more slippy and slidey than fifa 23.
What surprised me most was how empty it felt, despite better ball physics and teammate AI. It made me feel empty and depressed inside, which is what ps2 and some ps3 fifa's used to do. They were hollow, and I felt hollow playing them.
I got enjoyment out of fifa 16 obviously, but also 20 and 23. But 24, even though improved in areas i would specifically appreciate, just feels bizarrely soulless, that old chestnut re fifa that hasn't applied for a while. I think part of it is the lack of immediate connection with the players you're controlling, which is mostly down to how slidey and erratic they are. Moving them around feels hollow.
It doesn't help that efootball 24, for all its multitude of faults, now feels very muscular to play. The stride patterns are heavy and specific and pace-able. The tempo and rhythm of matches is also quite compelling, and matches that of real football.
I'm disappointed, I think (maybe I dont really care). I like the idea of multiple teams and stadiums and bells and whistles etc. But this fifa feels empty, at the moment. Fifa 20 had lots of faults, but fifas 16 to 20 captured well the rhythm and atmosphere and feel of different leagues. Those games had texture.
This fifa doesn't seem to have that though. Everything feels a little bland.
Maybe I need to work the power and weight of efootball out of my system (never thought I'd say that) or maybe the first patch will tighten everything up.
The "good' is that game shape and teammate AI is much better. Ball physics are even better. That's about it I think.
The art direction re the pitch is an abomination. The players also feel even more slippy and slidey than fifa 23.
What surprised me most was how empty it felt, despite better ball physics and teammate AI. It made me feel empty and depressed inside, which is what ps2 and some ps3 fifa's used to do. They were hollow, and I felt hollow playing them.
I got enjoyment out of fifa 16 obviously, but also 20 and 23. But 24, even though improved in areas i would specifically appreciate, just feels bizarrely soulless, that old chestnut re fifa that hasn't applied for a while. I think part of it is the lack of immediate connection with the players you're controlling, which is mostly down to how slidey and erratic they are. Moving them around feels hollow.
It doesn't help that efootball 24, for all its multitude of faults, now feels very muscular to play. The stride patterns are heavy and specific and pace-able. The tempo and rhythm of matches is also quite compelling, and matches that of real football.
I'm disappointed, I think (maybe I dont really care). I like the idea of multiple teams and stadiums and bells and whistles etc. But this fifa feels empty, at the moment. Fifa 20 had lots of faults, but fifas 16 to 20 captured well the rhythm and atmosphere and feel of different leagues. Those games had texture.
This fifa doesn't seem to have that though. Everything feels a little bland.
Maybe I need to work the power and weight of efootball out of my system (never thought I'd say that) or maybe the first patch will tighten everything up.
Anth James
International
- 22 September 2017
I have a very low sample size, but I think the CB jockey issue might be fixed finally.
@Matt10 you've probably spent longer than 10 minutes looking at it, is it gone for you with sliders? I'm testing some values in the gameplay files that I couldn't go anywhere near last year without it happening almost immediately and so far I haven't seen it yet...
If it is gone, that'll be extremely helpful (assuming behaviour is also not impacted). The slidey feeling is as bad as it's been in FC24, so if we can drop those values lower than we could and not have the negatives we'd be in a better place than previous years...
Edit: Played another half hour or so and I didn’t see it happen once!
@Matt10 you've probably spent longer than 10 minutes looking at it, is it gone for you with sliders? I'm testing some values in the gameplay files that I couldn't go anywhere near last year without it happening almost immediately and so far I haven't seen it yet...
If it is gone, that'll be extremely helpful (assuming behaviour is also not impacted). The slidey feeling is as bad as it's been in FC24, so if we can drop those values lower than we could and not have the negatives we'd be in a better place than previous years...
Edit: Played another half hour or so and I didn’t see it happen once!
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PRO_TOO
Team Heffernan
Whenever there was something promising about to come up by EA, we should’ve known better…
professionalism missing - promising! 😉
sorry mate, can’t take it any other way no more… 😃
Marlon Anthony
Purist
You may have mentioned it before, but what is the CB Jockey issue exactly?
Are you talking about how when matching up with an attacker, it's difficult to subtly jockey and stand off - The defenders feel like trucks on ice?
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"The CB Jockey issue", as far as I'm aware, usually refers to the way defenders just watch you go by without stepping towards you and/or challenging you. This is most commonly noticed when you realise simply changing your jogging direction is enough for the CB to back off you, retreating to their formational position and leaving you completely unmarked and free to score.
TheWolf
Premier League
This isn’t one of my normal shameless plugs for FIFA 19 but for those of you who still have the game, use the operation sports sliders, play women’s England v Spain, or similar decent teams, and please for the love of everything holy tell me why we can have movement that smooth with no skating from 5 years ago yet here we are with AI about to take over the world and EA is passing off this player movement and physics as cutting edge 🤷🏼
Marlon Anthony
Purist
Ahh I understand that. I think I had known that otherwise referred to as statue-defending on here 😂
That's why I thought the jockey issue was related to something else, more close quarters like 1v1's.
here is the trello link for the "new game"
https://trello.com/b/keigLn6R/ea-sports-fc-tracker
https://trello.com/b/keigLn6R/ea-sports-fc-tracker
Jonesy
Championship
- 19 September 2015
What is this shit where the AI just knocks the ball about 5 yards ahead of themselves and are past you? Getting it a few times a game now and it's ridiculous
I haven't seen this but are you also finding the game wildly inconsistent from moment to moment? There just seems to be no internal rules or logic to the game, even with sliders.
Jonesy
Championship
- 19 September 2015
I'm finding it to be an absolute bastard at the moment , you will play well and think your gonna keep a clean sheet against a good team then suddenly bang goals from all impossible angles , ball just destined for the net scripted as fuck
Jonesy
Championship
- 19 September 2015
Finished game since this post and I'm sure thos update has broke thr game , game was going fairly normal till I conceded a penalty and had man sent off. Go 0-2 down then all of a sudden their defenders just more or less stop trying to tackle my players and im just running through on goal all the time draw 4-4 , game just acting really strange
Jonesy
Championship
- 19 September 2015
Next game after this forest away, scored 4 before half time, could have hit double figures if I wasn't messing around passing about waiting for a tackle , not sure what the he'll has happened but since half time of my first game since update the game is literally broken, I could play all night now and never lose a game is nobody else experiencing this?
nikolapfc89
P.F.C
The more i play this game more i hate it. It frustrates me.