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RuneEdge said:
Thats bullshit. Chelsea have been the best team by a mile. Not only can they show some entertaining football at times, but they also defend which is one thing Arsenal cant do.
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If you read carefully i said we have played the best football,meaning free flowing attacking play, averaging 2.0 goals a game. I never said that we were the best team coz clearly our defence was pants when Sol got injured. Chelsea clearly were the best team and hats of to them.

RuneEdge said:
In the Carling Cup, we lost in the semis to Chelsea in another close encounter (without our full first team BTW). So again, no shame in losing there either..
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So what. Chelsea had a lot of first team regulars out and spanked your full strengh team at OT

RuneEdge said:
In the FA Cup, we lost in the final where we definately should have won but were unlucky. After seeing replays of Rio's early goal which was ruled out, you can clearly see that he was ONSIDE but cuz Ruud was offside, it didnt count.
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so what,you were the by far the better team on the day no doubt but you couldnt take your chances and LOST on pens.As for Nistelrooys goal i dont know what replay you were watching but it was offside,sorry mate.





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And finally, we lost to AC Milan who look favourites to win the European Cup. Losing to the eventual champions isnt a bad thing cuz if you cant beat them, you dont deserve to win the trophy anyway. Its better to lose early than to make it to the semis and lose.
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i dont know about you but as a fan I want my club to go as far in the competion as possible.I would rather lose in the semis then get knocked out in second round.Also Milan might not even win tomorrow.


RuneEdge said:
We have IMO the best reserve team in the country (4 trophies out of 5 including the reserve league title) so there will definately be some great players coming through that are just as good as the likes of Fabregas and Van Persie.
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Name them? Keron Ritchardson? Yeah hes well good.Maybe Pique but untill I see him play top flight I will reserve my judgment.
 
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I see where people (or me rather) are getting confused with the Rio goal. What happened was that someone took a shot on goal that Lehmann spilled and then Rio scored. When the first shot was taken, Rio was offside but since Rio wasnt interfering with the play, it shouldnt matter according to the new offside rule. Now before the ball bounced back to Rio, he moved into an Onside position and then scored.
To me thats a goal but I see why the ref made that judgement cuz the new offside rule is kinda f*cked up.

GoonerMagik said:
So what. Chelseas reserves spanked your full strengh team at OT
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Do you even know what a reserve team is? That was a "weak" Chelsea team. Not a reserve team. And if you look at the size of Chelsea's squad, really theres no such thing as a "weak" Chelsea team. An example of a reserve player is Lupoli of Arsenal who I think has hardly ever played for the full team.

GoonerMagik said:
so what,you were the by far the better team on the day no doubt but you couldnt take your chances and LOST on pens.As for Nistelrooys goal i dont know what replay you were watching but it was offside,sorry mate.
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Thats not my point. I was saying that theres no shame in losing the way we did cuz we played better than Arsenal.

GoonerMagik said:
i dont know about you but as a fan I want my club to go as far in the competion as possible.I would rather lose in the semis then get knocked out in second round.Also Milan might not even win tomorrow.
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OK, heres an example. Picture this. You're in a quarter final second leg. You just lost the first leg by 2 goals. 5 days after the second leg, you have an important Premiership tie that could give a good lead in the race and almost guarantee you the title if you win. The problem is that you have too many injuries to play a strong team in both games. What do you do?
A smart man would give up on the CL and focus on the Premiership. Cuz lets face it, the CL is only gonna get stronger and chances of winning are weak anyway. Why risk the Premiership when you have a good chance of winning it?
Dont you think Chelsea would have won 4 trophies if the fixture list was on their side?

GoonerMagik said:
Name them? Keron Ritchardson? Yeah hes well good.Maybe Pique but untill I see him play top flight I will reserve my judgment.
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This proves you know nothing. Richardson doesnt even play for our reserve team. HE PLAYS FOR WEST BROM. Our reserve team has good players like Rossi, Pique, Jones, Sylvan-Blake, etc. If they werent as good as they sound, they wouldnt have won 4 trohpies. How many did Arsenal reserves win this year?
 
Well we havent retained the title before but we still haven't retained 3rd place either. Now Runedge uou and I had an interesting discussion about how you didnt feel your season was a disappointment, and then you come here and suggest my not feeling disappointed is because I dont have high expectations. Please, Every Arsenal fan expected to win the league this year, just like ManU fans did, so lets not make it an issue. All we are trying to say is beating ManUtd sort of makes things more bearable.
Now could u please provide some numbers with regards to you guys having the highest numbr of injuries (sounds like a nice line to get off the hook doesn't it). And please desist with all the useless excuses about the Carling cup this, Champions league that. You have an outstanding ability to rationalise everything to suit your ego and make bedtime easier.
You have a proven reserve team, unfortunately they havent yet shown what they can do in the seniours. Arsenal's youngsters, whom we relied on heavily have shown what they can do. So if you are happy based on that fact, you should of course expect us to feel even more confident about next season's campaign. You say Chelsea broke all your records, so what? Your points total this season will not have merited the championship in most other seasons, neither did your goal haul so stop being irrational.
Finally, only the most bereft footbal fan can claim that Chelsea played better football than Arsenal this term. I mean there are few things set in stone in this league. Manchester United are the greatest premiership team to date, Jose Mourinho is the best coach in the league, Robbie Savage is a bastard swine, and Arsenal play the best football.
Now dont come around here telling us that we are not an aspiring lot becasue we are, but we are also capable of accepting mishaps and losses because we know that we have a team that on many an occasion overachieves. We have spent an average of 45million pounds since Wenger's arrival, now if 3 league triumphs and 4 FA cups is not enough then my smpathies go out to all you Manchester United supporters. Coming third is something unheard of at Highbury for a long time, yet spendthrifts like ManU have the nerve to talk about a lack of desire to achive.

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LOl its too much 2 read, why are manu fans even in this thread? u got beaten, u came 3rd, arsenal get teh last laugh, now stop moaning cuz u lost and got nothing this season
 
lucasetor said:
Well we havent retained the title before but we still haven't retained 3rd place either. Now Runedge uou and I had an interesting discussion about how you didnt feel your season was a disappointment, and then you come here and suggest my not feeling disappointed is because I dont have high expectations.
Please, Every Arsenal fan expected to win the league this year, just like ManU fans did, so lets not make it an issue. All we are trying to say is beating ManUtd sort of makes things more bearable.
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I was just questioning the reason why someone said that Man Utd fans moan while Gooners dont. Some of you seem so happy with the FA Cup while a lot of Man Utd fans would still be moaning if we had won it. Just like last year. The press are never after Arsenal but as soon as something wrong happens to Man Utd, everyone is questioning Sir Alex's job security.
If Man Utd have a bad season, its a big deal but if Arsenal have a bad season, it isnt.


lucasetor said:
Now could u please provide some numbers with regards to you guys having the highest numbr of injuries (sounds like a nice line to get off the hook doesn't it).
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At one point or another in the season (and most of these have been together at the start of the season) we have had to play without Rooney, Ruud, Saha, Smith, Ronaldo, Giggs, Scholes, Keane, Heinze, Rio, Fletcher, Gary Neville. Theres probably more I cant remember.
All of them excluding Giggs, Gary and Smith happened before Christmas so thats in the space of 4 months. Now look at that list and think about what that leaves in the squad.


lucasetor said:
You have a proven reserve team, unfortunately they havent yet shown what they can do in the seniours. Arsenal's youngsters, whom we relied on heavily have shown what they can do. So if you are happy based on that fact, you should of course expect us to feel even more confident about next season's campaign.
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Our reserves havent been given a chance yet to prove themselves. I'm telling you what I see when I see our reserve team play. And I can tell you that they look like the best reserve team we've had in about 4 years.
Richardson is really the only player to move out of the team and get a chance to play. And what did he do? He kept West Brom in the Premiership and made history.

lucasetor said:
You say Chelsea broke all your records, so what? Your points total this season will not have merited the championship in most other seasons, neither did your goal haul so stop being irrational.
Finally, only the most bereft footbal fan can claim that Chelsea played better football than Arsenal this term. I mean there are few things set in stone in this league. Manchester United are the greatest premiership team to date, Jose Mourinho is the best coach in the league, Robbie Savage is a bastard swine, and Arsenal play the best football.
Now dont come around here telling us that we are not an aspiring lot becasue we are, but we are also capable of accepting mishaps and losses because we know that we have a team that on many an occasion overachieves. We have spent an average of 45million pounds since Wenger's arrival, now if 3 league triumphs and 4 FA cups is not enough then my smpathies go out to all you Manchester United supporters. Coming third is something unheard of at Highbury for a long time, yet spendthrifts like ManU have the nerve to talk about a lack of desire to achive.
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You come up with all that crap and its got nothing to do with what were talking about.
I'm saying that since Chelsea broke our points record, there was almost no way we were going to beat them to the title. Chelsea raised the bar really high so we shouldnt be too upset cuz realistically we werent gonna win it anyway. We had a HUGE unbeaten run during the season where we were arguably playing the best football in the country but the gap didnt get any smaller between us and Chelsea. This was Chelsea's season and no one was ever gonna take that away from them.

lucasetor said:
And please desist with all the useless excuses about the Carling cup this, Champions league that. You have an outstanding ability to rationalise everything to suit your ego and make bedtime easier.
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I'm looking at the bigger picture and like to take the positives out of the season and move on. We have too many good things that happened at the club that we can look forward to which eventually will lead to success. Maybe if we didnt get anywhere next season then I would have something to be upset about.
And what is it that you want anyway? You want to see me upset? You want me to cry for you so that I make YOUR bedtime easier?
People like you cant get anywhere in life you just sit around and cry over your failures. A person with brains would move on and try to make the best of the situation.
 
jonneymendoza said:
LOl its too much 2 read, why are manu fans even in this thread? u got beaten, u came 3rd, arsenal get teh last laugh, now stop moaning cuz u lost and got nothing this season
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LOL. I'm not moaning. But this idiot over here is complaining because he thinks I SHOULD be moaning.
 
RuneEdge said:
Do you even know what a reserve team is? That was a "weak" Chelsea team. Not a reserve team. And if you look at the size of Chelsea's squad, really theres no such thing as a "weak" Chelsea team. An example of a reserve player is Lupoli of Arsenal who I think has hardly ever played for the full team.
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Please dont patronize me mate,by reserve team I meant they were not full strengh i.e no Terry,Lampard,Duff,Cech Robben ect. Cesc Fabrigas was playing reserve team football at the start of the season and is now a first team regular.



RuneEdge said:
This proves you know nothing. Richardson doesnt even play for our reserve team. HE PLAYS FOR WEST BROM. Our reserve team has good players like Rossi, Pique, Jones, Sylvan-Blake, etc. If they werent as good as they sound, they wouldnt have won 4 trohpies. How many did Arsenal reserves win this year?
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He was playing in you reserves untill he went to West Brom and that was my point,hes good enough for West Brom but not for United.Can you really see him getting into the first team in the near future? personnally i dont unless hes playing for West Brom that is.Perhaps we wouldnt have blooded Senderos and Fabrigas if it wasnt for senior players getting injured but they have shown they can hack it in the premeirship.You could argue that Uniteds reserve players havnt been giving a fair chance but Fergusons record shows that if the kids are good enough then hes not afraid to chuck them into the first team so maybe perhaps he just thinks they are simply not good enough.
 
RuneEdge said:
LOL. I'm not moaning. But this idiot over here is complaining because he thinks I SHOULD be moaning.
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Sounds to me like you are mate.
Why dont you go and talk about the "Plus" points of your season in the Manc thread
 
GoonerMagik said:
Sounds to me like you are mate.
Why dont you go and talk about the "Plus" points of your season in the Manc thread
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I'm not moaning. Moaning would be me saying something like "Oh Arsenal sux and they dont deserve shit cuz we rule!"
All I'm saying is that regardless of us failing in all competitions, I'm happy what we got out of this season cuz we played some good football at times and showed great potential.
But for some reason reason, you guys want to see me upset.
If you got a problem with that then moan somewhere else.
I mean its so annoying when you reply to someones comments with a 20+ line reply to prove your point, only to have a fool like to pick out about 3 lines where you think I'm wrong, just so you can be shut up by me again.
Its boring and I'm just gonna refuse to read the crap you post.
Do your fellow Arsenal supporters a favour and stop ruining their thread.
 
Throughout the course of this debate there has been no name-calling. There's no need to call me an idiot. You incited all this by claiming Arsenal fans were not ambitious and I tried to prove otherwise. Of course we are not completely happy with the season, but u cant expect us to moan during the week following us beating ManUSA in the FA cup. I really dont care about whether u feel u guys have shown great potential for the future, or there were great signs here and there, just dont try to make us feel like we shouldnt be optimistic about our future just cause u are of yours, BITCH.
 
lucasetor said:
Throughout the course of this debate there has been no name-calling. There's no need to call me an idiot. You incited all this by claiming Arsenal fans were not ambitious and I tried to prove otherwise. Of course we are not completely happy with the season, but u cant expect us to moan during the week following us beating ManUSA in the FA cup. I really dont care about whether u feel u guys have shown great potential for the future, or there were great signs here and there, just dont try to make us feel like we shouldnt be optimistic about our future just cause u are of yours, BITCH.
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I already gave you a perfectly good reason for this.
RuneEdge said:
Some of you seem so happy with the FA Cup while a lot of Man Utd fans would still be moaning if we had won it. Just like last year. The press are never after Arsenal but as soon as something wrong happens to Man Utd, everyone is questioning Sir Alex's job security.
If Man Utd have a bad season, its a big deal but if Arsenal have a bad season, it isnt.
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If that was all you were bothered about then why did you argue in the first place? Just look at all your posts, it goes a lot further than just talking about me claiming Arsenal dont have expectations.
And adding the word "BITCH" at the end of your post for no apparant reason is just childish.
 
lucasetor said:
Throughout the course of this debate there has been no name-calling. There's no need to call me an idiot. You incited all this by claiming Arsenal fans were not ambitious and I tried to prove otherwise. Of course we are not completely happy with the season, but u cant expect us to moan during the week following us beating ManUSA in the FA cup. I really dont care about whether u feel u guys have shown great potential for the future, or there were great signs here and there, just dont try to make us feel like we shouldnt be optimistic about our future just cause u are of yours, BITCH.
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lol...

Rune, you seem like a decent chap but you have taken this one too far. Quit while you are behind and leave your rantings about Arsenal, your "brilliant" reserve side and your high hopes for the future to the ManUsa thread because quite frankly we don't give a shit.

You did make me laugh thoughwhen you said this:

RuneEdge said:
The only reason why Arsenal fans didnt moan this season is because their standards arent set so high. Which is a sign of a team that doesnt expect success.
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We have now won a trophy in each of the past 4 seasons. If that ain't success you tell me what success is!! No one can match that record, so if anyone should have high expectations its us. I ain't gonna moan about not winning the League though, it was Chelsea's season no question, they were the better team by a fair distance. It ain't no shame in coming 2nd to a team with a unlimited transfer budget. Wenger has worked miracles over the years just keeping us competitive, remember we have a net spend of about £50-60 million under Wenger, which is less than Spurs!! Plus we have finished in the top 2 each of the last 8 seasons. Talk about punching above our weight!!
 
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RuneEdge is bar for the most biased rose tinted glasses wearing idiot that I have ever encountered in here of the Man U thread.

He will never admit he is wrong and just ends up digging himself into a hole! Boasting about your reserves come on mate!
 
How can I be wrong? Its all a matter of opinion.
All I said was I'm happy with Man Utd's season. Whats wrong with saying that?
If you dont think so then I dont care.

I'm not even friggin talking about Arsenal and you're telling me to stop ranting about them?
 
RuneEdge said:
How can I be wrong? Its all a matter of opinion.
All I said was I'm happy with Man Utd's season. Whats wrong with saying that?
If you dont think so then I dont care.

I'm not even friggin talking about Arsenal and you're telling me to stop ranting about them?
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So you are happy that you won feck all and finished third (again)?
 
Obviously things could have been better.
We won the FA Cup last year (beating you in the semis) but I was more upset at the end of the season then than I am now.
I just feel it isnt all our fault the season happened the way it did so I'm not complaining.

And the last time I checked, I have the right to my own opinion so can we all shut up now. Its just f*ckin' stupid arguing because someone has a different opinion to yours.
 
Emirates Stadium is taking shape:

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I gotta say, that looks like its gonna turn into a nice stadium.
Whats the capacity?
Anyone have any other pictures like from the top?

I bet Abramovich is gonna see this and plan his own new stadium.
 
RuneEdge said:
Obviously things could have been better.
We won the FA Cup last year (beating you in the semis) but I was more upset at the end of the season then than I am now.
I just feel it isnt all our fault the season happened the way it did so I'm not complaining.

And the last time I checked, I have the right to my own opinion so can we all shut up now. Its just f*ckin' stupid arguing because someone has a different opinion to yours.
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Well its all about opinion, but when someone disagrees with your opinion you must surely expect to receive a differing view in response. I mean what else can you expect when u come into the Arsenal thread trying to ridicule and patronise us. As far as I am concerned everything was going civil( regardless of opinions) until you decided to call someone an idiot.

I dont agree with what you said, therefore I argue my point, afterall is that not the aim of a forum? Dont go retreating to the - oh I was just stating my opinion and nothing else line - as soon as ur shit hits the fan. And now we should all just shut up. Well Ill do just that as long as you do.
 
Something quite disappointing about the new stadium is that it cannot be extended. Its gonna be 60,000 and that's it, unless London planning permission changes drastically. It's something to do with the maximum height of the structure, but once it's completed they won't be able to build out or up to increase capacity.
 
Joystick said:
Something quite disappointing about the new stadium is that it cannot be extended. Its gonna be 60,000 and that's it, unless London planning permission changes drastically. It's something to do with the maximum height of the structure, but once it's completed they won't be able to build out or up to increase capacity.
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Where did you hear this?
 
I went to a corporate hospitality eveing at Highbury where they try to flog you 'Club level' seats. They gave us a virtual tour of the Emirates and some various details afterwards, one of which being that they can't extend the stadium. It's one of the legal battles that they had to fight when originally getting planning permission for the new ground. I think one of the conditions was basically that they don't build it any bigger when they've finished.

That's the law as it stands, never know what could happen in the future though. I doubt they'll be thinking about extensions any time soon anyways.
 
RuneEdge said:
And how do you afford the extensions anyway?
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I iamgine that if a time arises to build an extension arises we will probably have paid the stadium loans back by then.

I don't think some people realise how much revenue this place will generate. Not only do we have increased gate receipts, there's the rents on the resedentiaal accomadation as well as the restaurants and bars being built. Our gate receipts will probably be pretty close to Uniteds cause although their stadium is bigger we charge more for tickets than they do. But then again Glazer will probably change that :).
 
Nickybaker said:
I iamgine that if a time arises to build an extension arises we will probably have paid the stadium loans back by then.

I don't think some people realise how much revenue this place will generate. Not only do we have increased gate receipts, there's the rents on the resedentiaal accomadation as well as the restaurants and bars being built. Our gate receipts will probably be pretty close to Uniteds cause although their stadium is bigger we charge more for tickets than they do. But then again Glazer will probably change that :).
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Assuming we fill it, our matchday revenue will be among the biggest in Europe and the certainly the biggest in the UK. I read this in one of the Arsenal annual financial reports. The 7000 capacity club level tier alone will bring in nearly £1million a match!! The 150 executive boxes will bring in around £400,000-£500,000 a match. Add on top of the that the rest of the 53,000 seats (average matchday price £40) and this is an extra £2.1million. So our matchday revenue could be in the region of £3.5million a game, thats serious money.
 
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