winston said:
Well, if you were the type of person that actually had the intelligence to recognise how PES4 really worked, relying on scritped cheating, then trust me, you don't want to go anywhere near WE9.It really is so bad.
Don't get me wrong. Some of what the fanboys say is true. There are some really nice new elements to the gameplay, some new animations, etc. But when the scripted physics, cpu cheats, bias referees and inability to control your player properly kicks in, this game is unbearable.
Of course, some fanboys are still denying that the cpu turbo boost towards the end of the match even happens or that sometimes you cannot move your guy at all (so why did Konami have to implement super-cancel in the first place if it wasn't to overcome the poor AI which prevented you from controlling your guy?), things that most normal people have accepted for many years. So don't expect these somewhat ignorant people to have sufficient vision or brain capacity to see how reliant this game is on scripted cheats.
Firstly, I don't get this 'fanboys' stuff. Does it mean if someone thinks the game is great while you think it's otherwise, then they' must be a 'fanboy'?. A little background, I've been playing footie games even further back than N64. Anyone remember KickOff 2 on the Amiga, even the first ISS on the SNES. Thought FIFA had it's moments too, Especially RTWC-98 which I thought was quite fun to play. TECMO W-Cup 86 at the arcade now that was a blast too.
All 'games' do rely heavily on scripting to provide the illusion of realism. Without scripting, there goes all the fluid animation/movement that we've been accustomed to. IT's great when it all comes off nicely, but sometimes it doesn't and we'll all have to live with it. So WTF, if this version doesn't ring my bells, can I have fun with it, yes.
Am I satisfied maybe yes, maybe no. What do I do, I'd play on and just enjoy the experience.
As for the CPU boost, I do agree its there, but it's there in 'ALL' games too in some form or another.
How else can you simulate extra effort, motivation, urgency to play. If you were playing a 2P game, a goal down with 10mins to go. Wouldn't you be pressing harder, chasing more. Overall palying a more aggressive game to try to win or draw the match. Tell me, how do you inject this adrenaline push into an AI?
From the discussions here, Maybe the kind of AI some people expect does not exist on any gaming platform yet. Ho do you program a humans will to win/survive to a CPU? So to overcome this, CPU may boosts it stats slightly, so what. In FPS we do have 'respawning' don't we. Bezerker mode anybody? So the CPU cheats a little, so what. Down in a game, human vs. human and opportunity presents itself to exploit a gameplay flaw. What do you think we'll do. Take it man. An that what the CPU does. IN fact I think humans cheat more if you are playing each otehr. Thats why I give up on online gameplay, and rather play just with mates who like to paly football, not concerned about win loss stats and such.
Now if that mentatlity rating could be used for your own team wouldnt it be brilliant. Just say YOu got a high teamwork, high mentality player. YOur team is down. Bring him on, and immediately all players in you team are motivated, play better, rally and win the game. I'm sure many of us will be champining this as superb,cool etc.. But how would it be achieved. Simple - boot stats of player side.
Judge a sports game by it's 2P mode first. If its enjoyable. Then good. IMO 1P mode, is just leftover. Sure we all play ML, but nothing compares to a good session of 2v2 or 3v3 against equally mathced human opponents every weekend. NO matter how much ppl claim CPU cheats, about scripting so on and so forth, eventually we'll be beating it on 5stars. And where do you we go from there...nowhere. It'll get so boring that you'd stop 1P until the next versions out.
I think I've been going on too long now. Just didn't like it whean you said people are ingnorant and lack brain capcity!.
Cheers.
