Hi guys.
Jumping late on the bandwagon, but here I am. I was able to get the pictures last night, I'd been waiting for these for quite a while - as most of us had been - and I was able to sleep over them...
Long post ahead:
My first feeling was disappointment. Not because of the quality - I really am not badly impressed by the way the game looks so far, and I'm not going into arguments about it. I was disappointed because I expected a lot of new info and new screens. Most of the info was really stuff we already knew - damn you Adonis, Suff and TG for always getting us the most up to date info
Really, we have all been victims of the marketing of those bastards in PSM3 - we all fell for it. Luckily we got the scans, so there'll be no way I'm going to buy that magazine now, I feel tricked. And I won't be surprised if PES2008 is NOT on the DVD for next months' issue, honest. Their business is selling mags, and they're doing a great job marketing that...
To the guys who are dissing Adonis and Suff and whatever. I don't like to repeat much of what's been said, but I'm going to do it 'cause I think that they really deserve it, and for the 4/5 years I've been in PES communities - I'm a mod at the portuguese PES.COM.PT community, and sort of a co-founder - I've seen this a lot and it really pisses me off. People always have this feeling that others owe them stuff. People always have a feeling that others have a duty of giving them what they want, when they want, and the way they want. In my home community this happened anytime a new Option File or patch was in the works. People always asking "when is it going to be out?" and saying "X is not the way I want/is not out yet, so you guys are all liars/clowns/incompetent"...
Honestly: the same way that patch makers don't have any moral obligation to share their patches with others (they could make it for their personal use only...), Adonis and Suff don't have it either. These guys could keep their info to themselves, and they'd be the only privileged guys in this situation. They are using their free time to record podcasts - even when there's nothing huge concerning news - because they want to share stuff with us. They tell us what their contacts tell them --- it's a gift, for crying out loud! You don't need to take it. These guys are doing this whole gig out of love for the uniform - and my respect and admiration for that. Honest. I wouldn't like to be in their shoes because, as someone said before, they have to take all the criticism that's directed to konami. Keep up the great effort, and congrats on going .com .
Continuing a bit on the info Adonis and Suff are getting us, though, I must advise to take it with a bit of caution. Remember: Suff and Adonis are regular guys like us. They don't have anything to profit from this, and they are in regular contact with Konami's PR. In my honest opinion, I doubt that the graphics will change that much from what we're seeing right now. Not that I don't want them to - and the same applies to PS3 being better or the same as XBox360. The truth is: everything they know comes from PR. Remember this. It is their job to hype their products - and, most probably, even though they might not make it with devious intentions, the truth is that they are so involved with their game everyday that whenever they look at it they can't see anything wrong with it. Take it from someone who also develops software. It takes someone from the outside to point out the flaws - and be pretty harsh about them.
From experience, though, I know that everytime something comes out there'll be:
- The haters
- The fanboys
- The lovers
- The humble
- The indifferent
and the rest. That's a day job.
My advice is to take the info with a grain of salt, don't get your hopes up. If the game surpasses our expectations, great. If it doesn't, at least you won't be as disappointed. I can tell that Adonis believes what he's saying - and that's the only thing that makes me want to believe it too.
Side note to Jack Bauer: kudos for trying to get us more info on that meeting. I remember you being here since ever. I can tell that you are not a FIFA or PES fanboy, you are just someone who wants to play a good game of soccer - and you get pretty harsh criticism from both sides in the end
Keep it up.
There will be a couple of long weeks ahead. Looking forward to JLWE2007CC (speaking of which, there should be scans today - the GameStation mag comes out today...).
Cheers, and once again, thanks for all the info and opinions - to all.
Paulo Tavares
a few hours ago, PES 2008 was mentioned. I'll post the conversation in a few minutes, when I've written it all out. But you're not going to like it.
