Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/25/07)
I understand alot of people including yourself have legitimate greiviences, and I understand there are alot of simple changes, like dummy leagues, dummy teams, players.... theres not an excuse and this could be easily changed, no problem with the sensible suggestions.
However demanding multiplayer online ML ontop of the sensible ML changes ontop of working on the new systems including all the new editing features AND wanting a game to play THIS YEAR... for me, this is a bridge too far.
Well there's a difference between wanting and demanding. I've been accused myself of talking like Konami "owe" me something - but that's not how I feel at all. At the end of the day, if they don't make the changes that I'm looking for I won't buy the game - consumer power is king (not that I believe there will ever be a boycott of PES, there's only two football games out there and if you believe one is even
slightly better than the other, chances are you will buy it).
It's just very disappointing and I do find myself thinking "it's not fair". I would love a multiplayer ML as well, but I don't expect it (least of all because it's Seabass we're talking about here), but what annoys the most is that the simple things would add literally months upon months to the longevity of the game. There's nothing to stop them adding unlicensed lower leagues for each country. There's nothing to stop them adding ten blank leagues. But obviously, if you don't care about these things, then the game will always be good on the pitch (and that's all that matters to some people - fair enough, but my view on that is, if the game only contained Man Utd and Lyon, would you still play it non-stop? And that's how the game already feels to me).
I personally don't want to play the game again simply because I've done it all before, I've finished ML seasons, I've finished the leagues, I've finished the cups, I've played versus mates and had a laugh. But things move on. If all I wanted was a laugh I could dig out SWOS, or PES5, and I wouldn't have to pay for it again. People say "what do you expect", but all I expect is a new league or two. I
want a multiplayer ML, I
want (and personally think the game
needs) 360 movement. But all I
expect is some new leagues. Without those, I'm not interested (but at least there is a patching community, meaning that if anything comes out at some point which replaces a few leagues with English lower-leagues, I will end up buying the game).
Again, that's not saying Konami owe me that, that's just saying that I don't want the game, regardless of the new animations, diving and commentary (all of which are good additions, don't get me wrong).