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marqisspes6 said:
it aint the first time i heard that, but i was playing around the other day and switching from pes5 pc to pes6 ps2 felt so wrong to me, it was way too fast and in pes5 pc im not even user speeder, every player felt so lightweight, maybe its just me becoming old and just enjoying the overall feeling of slow pace football
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I'm on the complete opposite side of this spectrum. I find slow PES incredibly boring. It's like I'm waiting around between passes and shots. I understand why you prefer a slower game though, a lot of people do as they get older. Needing more time to think about what you're doing and generally losing reflexes. I'm dreading the day I find PS2 PES too fast because I'll probably stop playing when I do.
 
PES4eva said:
I'm on the complete opposite side of this spectrum. I find slow PES incredibly boring. It's like I'm waiting around between passes and shots. I understand why you prefer a slower game though, a lot of people do as they get older. Needing more time to think about what you're doing and generally losing reflexes. I'm dreading the day I find PS2 PES too fast because I'll probably stop playing when I do.
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nah, its like maturing with alcohol, when you're younger you prefer anything that get you drunk even the cheapest works, then you start to learn about good drinks and you can't live without a nice wine or whisky for the nights (and its not an addiction :P just a habit)
 
marqisspes6 said:
nah, its like maturing with alcohol, when you're younger you prefer anything that get you drunk even the cheapest works, then you start to learn about good drinks and you can't live without a nice wine or whisky for the nights (and its not an addiction :P just a habit)
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Is that what they call it ok. Ok sure make up excuses lol
try playing WE2002 on PS1. If you think PS2 PES is fast WE2002 will be a motion blur for you 😂
 
PES4eva said:
"from every goal kick, either from me or the PC"
I Assumed you meant an actual PC from this statement. Must have been a typo then.

Regarding the PS2 version I find PES 6 to be slightly more challenging than 2008 but I think 2008 is a better game. I've said before (can't remember where) these days I just want to have a chill time and have fun scoring goals so I'm not really looking to have a balls ache of a challenge anyway. I think 2008 has a nice balance of gameplay and fun. The shooting is much tighter than PES 6 and yeah it's just generally a better game.

I played J League Winning eleven 9 and 10 a while back and although I can appreciate they're good games and some people would enjoy the extreme challenge, for me they're just a chore to play because you get absolutely swarmed 24/7.
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Oops sorry yes I meant the CPU not the PC. :D

Regarding the difficulties, when I was playing PES 5 a lot on PS2 back in the day I had this conversation with Victorious (maybe wrong spelling) and Lukas (Soyo) who both used to really push WE9LE as the best PES. I tried it on PC along with PES 5.

I found both WE9LE and PES 5 on PC easier than the PS2 version. The reason being is that I find the PS2 version less responsive, maybe because of the controls, the system, I am not sure but there is a 0.5 sec delay when pushing the buttons on the controllers compared to PC. So I found that on PC version of both was too easy to do one touch passing and zipping the ball around.

Regarding PES 6, I just don’t like, too easy, too arcadey in my opinion, so played it for a few weeks when I first bought it on PS2 and then I gave it to my mate’s son and went back to PES 5.
 
geeeeee said:
Oops sorry yes I meant the CPU not the PC. :D

Regarding the difficulties, when I was playing PES 5 a lot on PS2 back in the day I had this conversation with Victorious (maybe wrong spelling) and Lukas (Soyo) who both used to really push WE9LE as the best PES. I tried it on PC along with PES 5.

I found both WE9LE and PES 5 on PC easier than the PS2 version. The reason being is that I find the PS2 version less responsive, maybe because of the controls, the system, I am not sure but there is a 0.5 sec delay when pushing the buttons on the controllers compared to PC. So I found that on PC version of both was too easy to do one touch passing and zipping the ball around.

Regarding PES 6, I just don’t like, too easy, too arcadey in my opinion, so played it for a few weeks when I first bought it on PS2 and then I gave it to my mate’s son and went back to PES 5.
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Using a wired controller on an actual PS2 shouldn't give any input lag. When you use a wireless controller you'd get some sort of input lag.
WE9LE is for sure a great game but again I'm taking about the PS2 version because the PC version seems a bit easier gameplay to me.

Id agree with you that WE9LE isn't THE greatest of all time but it's up there for sure.

It's interesting to find out why people prefer one version of PES/WE over another and finding out their reasons. It's great that we all have so many options and versions of the games that there's a style of gameplay for everyone.
 
Guten Morgen,
Mein Lieblings-PES bleibt 2003, (ps2) es fühlt sich für mich einfach großartig an.

und ja, ich habe es ( pes 03 ) etwas langsamer und träger gemacht,
Ich bin auch etwas älter...........

Dies dauert im Editormodus nur 5 Sekunden.
(Bei allen Teams einfach unter „Zahl eingeben“ 1125 für -5 oder 2125 für +5 eingeben).
für alle Teams.
Sie können aber auch einzelne Teams besser/schlechter machen.
zB Barca 1118 +5 oder 2118 -5.
Wenn Sie die Nummern benötigen, kontaktieren Sie mich.

Das ist nur meine Meinung.
Viel Spaß mit deinem Favoriten.
:-)
 
PES4eva said:
Don't sleep on the great PS1 games too. If it's pure fun you like in a football game then I'd recommend anything from Winning Eleven 4 - WE2002 / PES 2.

You should also definitely check out Winning Eleven 6 Final Evolution on GameCube or PS2 (PS2 has most patches available) it's frikin glorious. The shooting system is nothing like the games you mentioned so it will take time to get used to it but WHAT A GAME WE6FE is! Everything about it from the gameplay, zany graphics to possibly the greatest commentary of any WE/PES game is so exciting and fun. The more I play it the more it moves up my list of the greatest WE/PES games of all time.
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Thats true, WE6 Final Evolution is such a good game!

I have played maybe arount 10 matches, but i find AI to be a little mediocre though.

btw which ps2/ps1 PES game you feel has the best AI?
 
memekidmlg said:
Thats true, WE6 Final Evolution is such a good game!

I have played maybe arount 10 matches, but i find AI to be a little mediocre though.

btw which ps2/ps1 PES game you feel has the best AI?
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Depends what you class as the meaning of the best AI. That can mean a lot of things. Some game versions it's difficult to score, some games it's more difficult to defend, some games have better AI pressing, some have a better AI counter attack system. If you're looking for overall game difficulty then the most difficult version of WE/PES has been J League Winning Eleven 9 for me. I find it very frustrating playing this version and I'm not sure why but again that's subjective because the way you play might mean you find it easy and a game you think is difficult I might find easy. I guess my advice would be play as many different versions of this franchise as you can and find which suits your needs.
 
Sany023 said:
Sound interesting ...
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The difference are on defense positioning,which is much better, shooting which is more complex, and dribbling. Dribbling has that pes2008 feature which make u lose close control when sprinting and change direction with a not skilled enough player.
 
simogto90 said:
The difference are on defense positioning,which is much better, shooting which is more complex, and dribbling. Dribbling has that pes2008 feature which make u lose close control when sprinting and change direction with a not skilled enough player.
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Just proves the point again that the difficulty of different WE/PES games are different for everyone because I think that's easier than 2008 and PES 6 😄
 
Personnally i replayed it as someone told me the same about it vs PES6, and i figured out that WE10LE was for me a faster boosted PES 6 version, not a real compliment.

If you want a PES 6 bug free, even if there's no NT i recommand JLWE10 Europa, and a PES 6 "final evolution" check on JLWE2007. Same issue with nations, unfortunately.
 
does anyone have the perfect emulator settings for WE 2002 on duckstation? i have recommended settings for the emulator in general, but with that, the emblems and text look kinda blurry. also the jersey numbers keep changing on the players.
 
How to edit a kit in Pes 2013 without crashing? When I delete a national kit or kit of a specific team like Marseille, and when I go to edit it in ingame Pes 2013 edit mode, the game crashes and returns to Windows? Can you help me solve this so I can make a good Pes 2013 patch?
 
Hello friends, how are you? I'm searching the internet for the PES 2013 ISO for PC, but I can't find it on reliable sites to download. I used to find it on archive.org, but I couldn't find it anymore and I can't find it anywhere else. If anyone can make it available, I'd be grateful.
 
I have recently been installing an option file for my PES2008 PSP game.

Is it just me who misses the old paper manuals that used to come with games? I used to be just as excited to flick through these as I would be to play the game. Reading up on new features, control combinations etc.

A simple thing but games feel a bit more ‘soulless’ these days.

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Hi everyone,

I finally completed the back-up of all my PS3 games and I'm looking for the official datapacks for the European versions of the following PES games :

- PES 2009
- PES 2015
- PES 2017

I've found them but only for the American versions unforrunately.

J.
 
Juventino32 said:
I finally completed the back-up of all my PS3 games and I'm looking for the official datapacks for the European versions of the following PES games :
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Maybe here
8ak6 said:
Hi Everyone,

Inspired by the modding community here at evoweb and the generosity of @Camaldinho in offering Retro PES Installments, I have created a Mega file share of all the datapacks / DLCs I have collected over the years for PES2008 - PES2013 PES2018 as well as WE2008 - WE2013 WE2018!

This should in theory enhance the experience of playing these old games as the datapacks / DLCs are becoming extremely hard to get hold of (to be fair, some of these games ARE 14 years old!).

I have provided installation instructions for PC & PS3 owners however, to get the PS3 files working you will need a jailbroken (CFW/HEN) PS3 to use them.

I have also provided a PARAM.SFO editor by Aldostools for those who have a different Title ID to the ones in the file share, so you can edit the files for use on your game.

[HIDEREPLYTHANKS]

PC: https://mega.nz/folder/mj4miLDJ#2NIzkLl_pDnQedEXBlBLlA

PS3/PS4: https://mega.nz/folder/DgsxHBQZ#vJ1ju83jdTBMYb75HgJxzw

[/HIDEREPLYTHANKS]

One thing you may notice when looking through the folders is that some datapacks/DLCs are missing, and this is where I need your help!

I have created a fileshare folder called 'EXTRAS' in the Mega file share to ask everyone to look on their PCs, PS3s and * Xbox360s * for any of the missing files and upload (no need to register with Mega) to help complete the sets:

PC: https://mega.nz/megadrop/-JZMzfwjsKw

PS3/PS4: https://mega.nz/megadrop/3t042z47WUc

If you do find any files or not 100% sure what DLC a file might be, pop the files in a folder, noting what game & system they are for along with your username [this is optional - it's so I can credit you for finding them] then I can check and report back if they are the same as those already found or if they are indeed the holy grail!

If you don't feel comfortable uploading direct to Mega, please email them to 8ak6wepes@gmail.com and I will look at them also.

Lastly, I like to give thanks to @djpelle1, @SiuMing and @NFS_FM for their help so far.

HAPPY GAMING & HAPPY HUNTING!

* Interesting Fact: For early PES games, both the Xbox 360 & PS3 datapack/dlc files were EXACTLY the same! Therefore, if anyone has accessed to their Xbox 360s via RGH/JTAG, we might be able to find the missing PS3 files!!!
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Thanks a lot @H_G , 2015 and 2017 are included. 2009 is missing.

@8ak6 , is it normal that some folders have DpFileList-ORIGINAL.bin and DpFileList-HYBRID.bin ?
I found all US datapacks and there, there is only a DpFileList.bin.
 
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Juventino32 said:
Thanks a lot @H_G , 2015 and 2017 are included. 2009 is missing.

@8ak6 , is it normal that some folders have DpFileList-ORIGINAL.bin and DpFileList-HYBRID.bin ?
I found all US datapacks and there, there is only a DpFileList.bin.
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Hi,

The 'hybrid' ones are files I created to merge together DLC files that inlcuded licensed J-League/Japan NT content from the Japanese games into the european or US games where they were unlicensed or removed.

Due to space restrictions on Mega (plus me being stingy and not wanting to pay for extra storage space) I put all the PS3 DLC files in the Japanese region folders but left the european (BLES) folders there with the files needed to run DLC on european games.

You just need to copy the img/bin/cpk files and the dpfilelist.bin into the BLES folders in order to use them (rename the 'original' if you want to play the DLC as was released in EU/US etc. and 'hybrid' if you want to include the extra content available from Japan).
 
8ak6 said:
Hi,

The 'hybrid' ones are files I created to merge together DLC files that inlcuded licensed J-League/Japan NT content from the Japanese games into the european or US games where they were unlicensed or removed.

Due to space restrictions on Mega (plus me being stingy and not wanting to pay for extra storage space) I put all the PS3 DLC files in the Japanese region folders but left the european (BLES) folders there with the files needed to run DLC on european games.

You just need to copy the img/bin/cpk files and the dpfilelist.bin into the BLES folders in order to use them (rename the 'original' if you want to play the DLC as was released in EU/US etc. and 'hybrid' if you want to include the extra content available from Japan).
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Crystal clear, thanks.
 
i am playing PES 6 again after almost 20 years. Actually i am playing with the 2002/2003 patch from dreamfinder and i'm happy. But i have a problem with changing the attack/defense level. I can increase the attack level to more offensiv ( L2 +R1) but i have no clue, how to decrease it again. I tried a lot off buttons, but i cant figure it out. Anyone can help?
 
Hello everyone,

A PES6 tournament is coming up very soon!
It will be held in a cozy bar in the heart of PARIS.
While we wait to reveal all the details, here's a sneak peek at the prizes up for grabs...

- Playstation 2 in box
- Wireless Controller Pro Evolution Soccer
- Book Guide Official PES6
- PES 6 Game
- HDD 500go with all WE-PES

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fc48 said:
Ich spiele nach fast 20 Jahren wieder PES 6. Ich spiele aktuell mit dem 2002/2003-Patch von Dreamfinder und bin zufrieden. Ich habe ein Problem mit der Änderung des Angriffs-/Verteidigungslevels. Ich kann das Angriffslevel zwar auf offensiver erhöhen (L2 + R1), habe aber keine Ahnung, wie ich es wieder senken kann. Ich habe viele Tasten ausprobiert, aber ich komme einfach nicht weiter. Kann mir jemand helfen?
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In meinem PES 2006-Handbuch steht auf Seite 56:
Offensiv-/Defensivaufstellung festlegen: playstation2 :

Halten Sie L2 gedrückt, dann R1 zum Erhöhen,
Halten Sie L2 gedrückt und drücken Sie dann R2 zum Absenken.

:))
 
fc48 said:
i am playing PES 6 again after almost 20 years. Actually i am playing with the 2002/2003 patch from dreamfinder and i'm happy. But i have a problem with changing the attack/defense level. I can increase the attack level to more offensiv ( L2 +R1) but i have no clue, how to decrease it again. I tried a lot off buttons, but i cant figure it out. Anyone can help?
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There's a thing called dinput8.dll you can add to fix that. I can't find the exact link, but it's somewhere in here. Someone will pop up with the link somewhere I'm sure
 
FC Bayern said:
There's a thing called dinput8.dll you can add to fix that. I can't find the exact link, but it's somewhere in here. Someone will pop up with the link somewhere I'm sure
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Thanks for your reply, I already got that file. I put it int the root folder of pes, but I don't know exactly, what it does?

@francesco totti: thank you, but only L2 +R1 works. L2 +R2 doesn't work at all.

I am using an Xbox one controller.
 
fc48 said:
Thanks for your reply, I already got that file. I put it int the root folder of pes, but I don't know exactly, what it does?

@francesco totti: thank you, but only L2 +R1 works. L2 +R2 doesn't work at all.

I am using an Xbox one controller.
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Yes, make sure it's in the patch folder, and then if you go to settings exe, you will have to config the controller buttons again, but it should appear as Xidi wireless or something like that

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