The Retro-PES Corner

mattmid said:
@goalgerd Hopefully you got it sorted. Just to say I sometimes had problems with excel format. The free Libre office never caused any problems so you could try that if you're still having a problem with it.




That's really strange isn't it. Did you try to start the ML with kitserver uninstalled at all just to make sure it is a kitserver problem. If it crashes with kitserver uninstalled then it has to be something on the OF - if that was the case I can only think it would be a team that I didn't have when I started a couple of ML's to test. At least if you try to start a ML with kitserver uninstalled we can rule it in or out as the cause of the problem.

One thing reading what you wrote, although surely it can't be that, but I have always selected my P1 team in the first slot of D2. I really can't believe that would cause it but that's the only thing different to what you have done than I did.

Wonder if it would be worth trying it on a fresh install from sany's download?
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You know what mate? The strange part is, at least on my side, it has NEVER crashed when I proceed with the default ML leagues structure pick. So I slightly doubt if it is due to some teams.

I mean how possible is it that the CPU never picks a flawed team to cause the crash?
 
Do you guys know if a player has for example these positions CF SS SM but registered position is CF does he loose any abilities or mentality or whatever if I use him on SS or SM ? Same for preferred sides , he likes left side but i use him on right .
 
Michael D. Trooper said:
Do you guys know if a player has for example these positions CF SS SM but registered position is CF does he loose any abilities or mentality or whatever if I use him on SS or SM ? Same for preferred sides , he likes left side but i use him on right .
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I have wondered about this too. I think it just changes the type of runs they will make & positioning. I don't think it will limit stats though, I used to play Roberto Carlos as LWF all the time :LOL: Someone here will definitely know more than I though..
 
slamsoze said:
You know what mate? The strange part is, at least on my side, it has NEVER crashed when I proceed with the default ML leagues structure pick. So I slightly doubt if it is due to some teams.

I mean how possible is it that the CPU never picks a flawed team to cause the crash?
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Yeah I can't see that it can be that now after the changes. Really strange why it's not happening at my end though so it must be kitserver related now although it will be interesting to see when you get back from your trip if that other OF, when amended, causes a crash still as well.

Michael D. Trooper said:
Do you guys know if a player has for example these positions CF SS SM but registered position is CF does he loose any abilities or mentality or whatever if I use him on SS or SM ? Same for preferred sides , he likes left side but i use him on right
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There's a reduction to the player's stats if they play in a position they aren't registered for. I think it varies how much, for instance a RB playing LB won't be penalised as much as he would if he played LW, assuming he had neither as a secondary position.
 
Joga said:
The old Jenkey patch might be a good shot. I think he created the actual gameplay tool & his patch is used as a base for many of the new patches even today. I tried some of the new patches but either got crashes or the creator insists on putting their names on all the adboards so i gave up. I stick to Jenkey patch!

The links on his blog are way outdated but I managed to get it from here https://www.pesnewupdate.com/2017/12/pes-2013-pesjp-patch-2013-ultimate-by-jenkey1002.html
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Bro I downloaded this patch and everything is working fine. What I don't understand is why it is the 1.03 version datapack..and then when I start the game it says my edited data is from a different version..

How can I solve it? Thanks in advance. :TU:
 
millossobek said:
Bro I downloaded this patch and everything is working fine. What I don't understand is why it is the 1.03 version datapack..and then when I start the game it says my edited data is from a different version..

How can I solve it? Thanks in advance. :TU:
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Well for 13 the DLC isn't in the game directory. So I'm thinking, possibly the installer wasn't able to get to C:\ProgramData\KONAMI\Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 This directory should have the 'download' folder with dt0f.img Did you run installer as admin? Hopefully it is just this ..
 
Joga said:
Well for 13 the DLC isn't in the game directory. So I'm thinking, possibly the installer wasn't able to get to C:\ProgramData\KONAMI\Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 This directory should have the 'download' folder with dt0f.img Did you run installer as admin? Hopefully it is just this ..
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I'm gonna do a clean reinstall bro.. I downloaded 2 different patches and, even though I thought they were independent of each other.. I think they conflicted.. I'll have to reinstall everything.. oh well.. :LOL:

Do you have any add-ons installed from this patch? Which ones do you remember?
 
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mattmid said:
There's a reduction to the player's stats if they play in a position they aren't registered for. I think it varies how much, for instance a RB playing LB won't be penalised as much as he would if he played LW, assuming he had neither as a secondary position.
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There's a bit about it in one of the official guides, maybe?

I don't think it has that much of an effect in the older games, certainly. Definitely not the PS1 days, sticking Bobby Carlos on the right wing for 40 goals a season!

geeeeee said:
I enjoyed this match with my brother.

Parma (me) v Saudi Arabia (him)

Strange match up in teams but we have a competition with all teams drawn randomly. Some good goal mouth action.

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Ah, the famous Parma/Saudi Arabia grudge match we've grown to love. 😄
 
millossobek said:
I'm gonna do a clean reinstall bro.. I downloaded 2 different patches and, even though I thought they were,independent of each other.. I think they conflicted.. I'll have to reinstall everything.. oh well.. :LOL:

Do you have any add-ons installed from this patch? Which ones do you remember?
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If you don't find a special method like @Sany023 installers, I don't think you can use patches as independent games, for games after 2008 that use the current database structure, with DataPacks, program Data files, etc.
 
millossobek said:
I'm gonna do a clean reinstall bro.. I downloaded 2 different patches and, even though I thought they were independent of each other.. I think they conflicted.. I'll have to reinstall everything.. oh well.. :LOL:

Do you have any add-ons installed from this patch? Which ones do you remember?
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Installing & re-installing has become a hobby for me mate. Great feeling though, once you find your perfect setup for all these classic gems :)

I installed the turf pack, chants & Stadiums, so all of them besides the HQ graphics exe. AMD software is weird sometimes.
 
Joga said:
Installing & re-installing has become a hobby for me mate. Great feeling though, once you find your perfect setup for all these classic gems :)

I installed the turf pack, chants & Stadiums, so all of them besides the HQ graphics exe. AMD software is weird sometimes.
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when i wasnt paying attention and the 1.07 update of FIFA16 sneaked in on my PS5, i had to delete and install again...
that happens like once every week, but i will not get tired of reinstalling. its so freaking worth it, every time (and it takes only 12 min)! :)
 
Flipper the Priest said:
Manually installing datapacks and adding option files to PS3 PESes is a thoroughly miserable experience, I know that much. One would speculate piles is a lesser pain in the ass.
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I really wonder why the fak KONAMI did not apply the same principle of installation, that use for PS4. Whenever you install the game with internet connection ON, you get up to latest DataPack, just not the Live updates.
 
slamsoze said:
I really wonder why the fak KONAMI did not apply the same principle of installation, that use for PS4. Whenever you install the game with internet connection ON, you get up to latest DataPack, just not the Live updates.
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Yeah I was confused as to why you only get limited updates. If you're going to have some updates available eight years after you release a game, why not all?!

Most frustrating one is 2014. I understand there was some sort of WC challenge mode DLC that was pretty good. But you can't get that update now. You can only get what I think was the penultimate patch, which is the same as most of the games.

And another problem is with the PS3 games is that there's SO much fake stuff and the fake stuff is REALLY fake.

Partly my fault for completely abandoning PES throughout that era!
 
PRO_TOO said:
when i wasnt paying attention and the 1.07 update of FIFA16 sneaked in on my PS5, i had to delete and install again...
that happens like once every week, but i will not get tired of reinstalling. its so freaking worth it, every time (and it takes only 12 min)! :)
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You console guys really do have some obstacles to contend with when it comes to patches :LOL: I respect the hustle. Having said that, console gets a much better game right out the gate. For example the crappy PC ports that were 13 & 17 ( probably more, these two are just shocking though ) were so low effort.

Also it might be an Dinput/Xinput thing or a placebo, but playing on console PS2/3 the overall controls felt much more "360" to me.
 
Flipper the Priest said:
There's a bit about it in one of the official guides, maybe?

I don't think it has that much of an effect in the older games, certainly. Definitely not the PS1 days, sticking Bobby Carlos on the right wing for 40 goals a season!
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I think it was the PES5 guide I read it in, I'll have to see if I can find it in there again and paste it here.
 
PRO_TOO said:
when i wasnt paying attention and the 1.07 update of FIFA16 sneaked in on my PS5, i had to delete and install again...
that happens like once every week, but i will not get tired of reinstalling. its so freaking worth it, every time (and it takes only 12 min)! :)
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Just out of interest, is it possible to stop just one game updating on PS4/5 or is it a case of having to disconnect the thing from the net?
 
reinelt97 said:
Just out of interest, is it possible to stop just one game updating on PS4/5 or is it a case of having to disconnect the thing from the net?
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i've been longing for a feature like that for years!!
being able to select games wich are ok to update and wich dont!

yeah, its either cutting the connection completly (just turn it of in UI settings), stoppping the update while its downloading (go to queeu and stop or cancel the download) or having FIFA running so the update can't install. for the latter it is important to set the correct settings (there is an auto update feature while games are running that needs to be disabled!!! its activated by default)!!
 
PRO_TOO said:
i've been longing for a feature like that for years!!
being able to select games wich are ok to update and wich dont!

yeah, its either cutting the connection completly (just turn it of in UI settings), stoppping the update while its downloading (go to queeu and stop or cancel the download) or having FIFA running so the update can't install. for the latter it is important to set the correct settings (there is an auto update feature while games are running that needs to be disabled!!! its activated by default)!!
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I thought as much. Crafty buggers!

No such issues on my trusty old PS2 with PES 5 but I quite fancy trying FIFA 16 again. This isn't the place I know but I'm assuming the vanilla version is very different to the fully updated game?
 
reinelt97 said:
I thought as much. Crafty buggers!

No such issues on my trusty old PS2 with PES 5 but I quite fancy trying FIFA 16 again. This isn't the place I know but I'm assuming the vanilla version is very different to the fully updated game?
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Guess it’s kinda ok as FIFA16 is nearly retro! ;)
I’d you do answer to my comment, let’s do that in the FIFA16 thread so users can take part.

It is different indeed. Have a look in the FIFA16 thread and search for @Emroth latest comments for example. His impressions are still fresh and valid!
In short: 1.07 is missing some physicality, and organic behavior but is bringing a bit better AI to the table.
 
PRO_TOO said:
i've been longing for a feature like that for years!!
being able to select games wich are ok to update and wich dont!

yeah, its either cutting the connection completly (just turn it of in UI settings), stoppping the update while its downloading (go to queeu and stop or cancel the download) or having FIFA running so the update can't install. for the latter it is important to set the correct settings (there is an auto update feature while games are running that needs to be disabled!!! its activated by default)!!
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Well covered ground but the inability to pick a patch/update is scandalous to me. Imagine buying any other product that the manufacturer can then change (with subjective 'improvements') at a later date whether you like it or not. Imagine the pizza delivery guy knocked on the door again five minutes later to add some pepperoni and mushrooms.
 
Flipper the Priest said:
Well covered ground but the inability to pick a patch/update is scandalous to me. Imagine buying any other product that the manufacturer can then change (with subjective 'improvements') at a later date whether you like it or not. Imagine the pizza delivery guy knocked on the door again five minutes later to add some pepperoni and mushrooms.
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Absolutely mate. And we had that discussion before, with a lot of examples. I remember the cookies in the shelf. :LOL:
Absolutely agree. Giving us the option to choose patches like in NHL was another topic.
i could write it but she sings it even better!!
0:14 - 0:25 min!!
 
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