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@miguelfcp @geeeeee and anyone tried all the PESes and WEs for PSP. As all of you have revied the PES games for PSP and we know the standards, does this game follow the old PSP titles? I mean framerate drop on corners and 1 stadium only.@Flipper the Priest: Plus you only have to go to Sany's installers thread and you're set for life (or two or three lifetimes...) when it comes to quality entertainment.
I'm with you, I don't know why the "retro wagon" you speak of isn't popular yet, especially in a time where both football franchises are clearly out of ideas, failing to move their games forward, whilst being hated with a passion by their "fan"bases. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that the general audience doesn't really know how to enjoy retro gaming. Upon trying, say, a PES3, 50% will say "it's old!", 40% will claim ridiculous things like "oh but this game doesn't have 360 degrees dribbling or 4K graphics like the new PES!" (as if more advanced technology automatically made something more enjoyable...) and the remaining 10% will be wise enough to appreciate a retro gaming for what it brings to the table: a deal that gets you countless, varied entertainment options, countless mods and an opportunity to travel back in time - either for nostalgia, curiosity or to enlarge your knowledge about gaming history. No, it doesn't get you 4K graphics but I'd say this is a fantastic deal nevertheless.
@geeeeee: I certainly am. This PES5 disk (in perfect condition) cost me...50 cents. One of the greatest football games of all time for 50 cents. Last time I checked on that same store your beloved PES08 PS2 was for sale for...1 euro. This is madness. It's as if you found gold and put it in the trash because it tastes weird...
Regarding the commentators, lately I've been listening only to the English ones on PES2, mainly because of this:
...but I generally prefer the Spanish dudes, they're much more enthusiastic.
Am thoroughly enjoying your videos, the attacking AI seems much better than on the default game (which is already pretty good!).
@Madmac79: You're right, again, why did they remove that? This means I'll have to do a ML on PES2 too at some point.
@reinelt97: Wow, I had no idea that the CPU would sign players for you in time of absolute need, how interesting! Old-gen PES11 is one of the best of the PS2 era: the gameplay is a bit more arcade-y but very tough and fun, plus there's loads of content like the Libertadores, CL, BaL, etc. And, at least on the PSP, it's the PES with the biggest stadium count.
Speaking about tournaments, if someone here is playing this patch..
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..you can try my OF. I started doing it some time ago, and came back to finish it now. It has two things:
1) Alex gameplay, that I think is one of the most interesting and realistic for PES6.
2) My own tactics for all 32 WC teams participants. They are carefully recreated using Pes Classic Stats website, some of my own knowledge as well as teachings of @Chenghis.Khan (in fact, some tactics are taken straight from his own WE9 option file). I don't remember all teams and there was a fair share of guessing and assumptions involved, so not claiming they are perfect by any means. Have not even played with all of them.
Download
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Hey guys, does anyone know if and how I can convert/import my WE/WE9LE/PES5 OF into emulated PS2 WE10?
I fired PES up again a few times and really feel like playing with some teams not from 2006....
Prosinecky should've been born 25 years later, he'd be perfect for the game right now with his ability to resist & evade pressure
Speaking about tournaments, if someone here is playing this patch..
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..you can try my OF. I started doing it some time ago, and came back to finish it now. It has two things:
1) Alex gameplay, that I think is one of the most interesting and realistic for PES6.
2) My own tactics for all 32 WC teams participants. They are carefully recreated using Pes Classic Stats website, some of my own knowledge as well as teachings of @Chenghis.Khan (in fact, some tactics are taken straight from his own WE9 option file). I don't remember all teams and there was a fair share of guessing and assumptions involved, so not claiming they are perfect by any means. Have not even played with all of them.
Download
(hope the link works)
I just tried a few games with that patch and your OF and it's great fun!
I like those stat changes, especially the Balance one. The game finally feels slow and heavy while still keeping the fun. Keeping the ball in the final third requires some serious trickery for me, those crazy CBs & DMs with their supercharged BB & RES destroy everything they can touch. Very nice. I'm a bit worried about losing player individuality this way, although competent dribblers, long passers and strong or tricky strikers already stand out. Prosinecky should've been born 25 years later, he'd be perfect for the game right now with his ability to resist & evade pressure. Also playing against Holland, they made great use of their pair of technical forwards, keeping possession and bringing others into play and controlling really difficult passes.
I noticed the OF is set to Professional difficulty. Do you find the AI plays better this way compared to Top Player?
Also congrats on the team tactics! I'm really liking what I've seen so far (top teams mostly). The game feels like it did back then with the field wide open and space everywhere because both defenses stay kinda camped around their respective boxes. Combining between the lines is hard (if there are any lines at all....), the formations of that time kinda force you into hopeful long balls into the forwards just to pray they win a 1v1 or 1v2 duel and can keep the ball a little while your midfielders slowly catch up. Ugly but beautiful. xD
I noticed a few little things:
- German RB Stefan Reuter is not a black man, he's as white as they come °°
- I'd give German AM Häßler two diagonal forward arrows to get him to look for wider spaces more. The German AM role back then was by no means confined to the centre of the pitch.
- Mihaljovic should be taking all the Yugoslavian dead balls, c'mon
- I edited some player stats, onl wanted to change what seemed safe as don't have a feel for the new stat environment with all these global reductions.
- I began modifiying player positions. I'd only give them the roles they played within their NT tactics that year and remove all others, no matter where they played in their clubs. Rivaldo being registered *AM, Beckham *CM, Thon *SW and so on. I want the AI to pick the right players in WC mode.
Why are there some midfielders and defenders with the *Post Player special ability, was that done on purpose?
I also have an idea. Because the tournament already happened and we know how the players actually performed, we can edit the CONDITION/FORM stat to reflect their performance. Players who played well will get better form arrows and vice versa.
Higher for players who played great in most games, like basically all the french defenders and DMs/CMs or M. Laudrup, Owen, Thon, Dunga, Cafu, Roberto Carlos, etc..
Lower for everyone who was struggling to find their form or wasn't as effective for the NT compared to club play like Beckham, Scholes, Matthäus or Seedorf (correct me if I'm wrong),.
Bench players with 1st 11 worthy stats rated a bit more inconsistent, like Henry, Trez, Pires, Prosinecky.
Wow man! No idea how I missed this since I downloaded this patch only a week or something ago (98 being my favourite WC ever).
Just did a bunch of games.. it truly plays beautifully! Between tactics and edits it feels so different than vanilla Pes 6. Really well done, playing a WC with your OF it's definitely on the list , maybe even from the qualifiers if the patch will permit it (which I honestly don't have idea of).
Some of you may remember myself, @miguelfcp and @sniglet released a Danish Div 2 (3rd Tier) OF for PES6 last year on the Project Odyssey thread. As I've been getting into 2013 I decided to transfer it over and then thought if I'm going to do that I might just as well get it up to date as well. Then I thought why not do the D1 and Super Liga too, so that's what I'm doing.
Anyway I've completed the D2 which consists of 24 teams in two leagues of 12, Group1 and Group 2. Once they've played twice the top 6 in each go into the Promotion group, the bottom 6 in each form the relegation group. Whatever points they have carry over and these two new leagues play the other 11 teams in their new league just once and the points are added to what they had previously. This decides Promotion/Relegation
My long term plan if @PeterC10 's tool goes to plan is to pick a team and see if I can get them up to the top level. In the meantime I'm going to play out a league manually (seeing as Konami took out the regular league option - seriously WTF Konami?) and pick one team in each league, one I will manage only, the other I will play as. I'm not sure who to pick yet so I'm going to watch the first round of fixtures in each and choose two teams.
Here's a little 5 or so mins clip of some goals and missed chances from the first 6 games from Group 1
05:15 isn't it offside?? I am analysing it in 0.5 speed!!!! It seems a little bit off the border of offside line.Some of you may remember myself, @miguelfcp and @sniglet released a Danish Div 2 (3rd Tier) OF for PES6 last year on the Project Odyssey thread. As I've been getting into 2013 I decided to transfer it over and then thought if I'm going to do that I might just as well get it up to date as well. Then I thought why not do the D1 and Super Liga too, so that's what I'm doing.
Anyway I've completed the D2 which consists of 24 teams in two leagues of 12, Group1 and Group 2. Once they've played twice the top 6 in each go into the Promotion group, the bottom 6 in each form the relegation group. Whatever points they have carry over and these two new leagues play the other 11 teams in their new league just once and the points are added to what they had previously. This decides Promotion/Relegation
My long term plan if @PeterC10 's tool goes to plan is to pick a team and see if I can get them up to the top level. In the meantime I'm going to play out a league manually (seeing as Konami took out the regular league option - seriously WTF Konami?) and pick one team in each league, one I will manage only, the other I will play as. I'm not sure who to pick yet so I'm going to watch the first round of fixtures in each and choose two teams.
Here's a little 5 or so mins clip of some goals and missed chances from the first 6 games from Group 1
Man. Those crowd sounds are awesome (for the appropriate fixture)!Looking good
Not sure if I ever posted this here (I think you'd seen it at least @mattmid), but I had some fun with that original PES6 OF and created a little D2 highlights package based on the Danish SuperLiga style.
It also serves as a bit of a "proof of concept" for a small crowd sound patch. No idea if one of these exists already, but would be great for these more obscure leagues!
It also serves as a bit of a "proof of concept" for a small crowd sound patch. No idea if one of these exists already, but would be great for these more obscure leagues!
I just had a thought on this! The training ground! If we could find which file numbers those crowd sounds are, they even have the applause when you score remember, we could use those to replace all other crowd sounds.
You're so right! Must test it out as is, but at the very least it would be a great baseline for adding a few more random sounds to, as I feel like it might be a bit quiet during general play even for Denmark D2 ...
What graphics patch is that mate ? looks glorious.Looking good
Not sure if I ever posted this here (I think you'd seen it at least @mattmid), but I had some fun with that original PES6 OF and created a little D2 highlights package based on the Danish SuperLiga style.
It also serves as a bit of a "proof of concept" for a small crowd sound patch. No idea if one of these exists already, but would be great for these more obscure leagues!
What graphics patch is that mate ? looks glorious.
Got to love the drama that PES continually throws up. AI v AI in this Hillerod v Frem. Hillerod 2-0 up and cruising when out of nowhere comes this beauty from Anusic.
A minute later they equalise.