The PES4 Master League Thread - YEAH!

[juventus11]

PLF can you go on msn.
I need to talk to you urgently!

 

[kel]

I'm eyeing a diminutive Albanian who goes by the name of Fatmir Vata. He plays in midfield for Arminia Bielefeld and appears to have a cultured right foot. This makes him a good central passer and Free Kick taker. And being in his 30s, he'll add a bit of experience.

He's actually playing forward in DSC Arminia Bielefeld.

 

[nerf]

I *think* Dalmat spent most of his time at Spurs starting on the left, but he did seem quite two-footed IIRC.

Nice post PLF, I enjoyed reading about your Getafe squad . Where do you envisage playing Craioveanu? In attack, in the hole or out on the left of midfield?

I finished 6th in my second season with De Graafschap, which was a slight improvement on 8th last season . Zongo finished second in the scoring charts behind Saviola, who helped Monaco romp to a league and cup double.

In the third season De Graafschap have started much better, we haven't lost any of the first five games, but unfortunately we've only won 1 of them too! Seem to be the draw specialists at the moment

Ricardo Sousa is settling in really well now. I'm playing him in a marauding OMF role in my three-man midfield, feeding the ball to his feet whenever possible. He's got a rare bit of quality that the rest of the team just don't have at all.

I also signed a Ukrainian CBT, who has replaced my sweeper and he's now playing in a Libero role just ahead of the other other two centre-backs. I'm determined to make this bad 5-3-2 formation work somehow

 

[Professor Nutmeg]

He's actually playing forward in DSC Arminia Bielefeld.

Yeah, i noticed the little fella up there on Eurogoals when they beat Bayern 3-1. I take it he also plays as an attacking midfielder, a sort of second striker.

 

[kel]

Yea, you could use him as OM aswell. Good luck.

 

[gerd]

Some news about my ML's. While some guys over here often begin all over again. I have just started my 3th ML. So now i'm playing 3 ML's simultaneously (well not entirely).

With Real Sociedad i'm in the semi-finals of the WEFA-cup after eliminating Juventus (1-0 loss in Delle Alpi, 3-0 win in the home leg). In the primera division i'm still second 9 points behind unbeatable Real Madrid. With five games to go they will certainly win it.

With Wolfsburg i'm at the beginning of my second season. I bought quite a lot of players (Wolfsburg has an old squad) but i can't remember them. I bought a french forward, a young Argentinian winger (Cardarson) and a Finnish CMF. Martin Petrov got injured in the first frinedly match (31 weeks) but to my astonishment at the beginning of the season he was fit (after seven or eight weeks). I was disappointed...

Finally after the transfer period i decided to begin a new ML, this time in second divsion. I started with Birmingham and i have found a very good CMF: Nafti. I really love him. I'm currently (after 5 matches) second in division to one point after leaders Soutahmpton. I'm playing an EPL with the Old Firm (in first division) and both Belgian clubs (in second division).

Feel a litle bit stupid about my postings after seeing the beautifull websides of Db and the Prof...

 

[juventus11]

You beat juve how dare you.

 

[denirobob]

Simao accused of tapping up Teixeira

Maritimo boss Mr Simao is being investigated by WEFA for an alleged illegal approach for Virgilio Teixeira. The authorities have responded to the charges after a comment about the RKC Waalwijk centre half appeared on a Soccer Chat forum, that is widely understood to be frequented by a number of managers.

RKC's President Jan Snoeren as reported on the C+ Blauw, digital satellite TV station, apparently contacted the ruling body after being tipped off by an anonymous phonecall.

Mr Simao responded to the charges with a short statement.

"It is true that I was discussing the player, amongst other issues on an internet message board, with the recently installed manager of Napoli. I can assure Mr Snoeren and the board at RKC that nothing untoward took place. I merely commented on the fact that I had been impressed by his performance in a recent game. nothing more, nothing less."

Meanwhile back in The Netherlands at the RKC training ground, the player himself was keeping a low profile, preferring not to stir up anymore controversy on the matter.

Teixeira, although having spent his whole career playing in Holland since beginning at Den Haag in 1992, is clearly intrigued at the interest from a Portuguese club, especially as he enters the twilight of his career.

There are question marks over his pace and a dubious disciplinary record, however there can be no doubts that his positional sense, tough tackling and aerial ability are highly valued. In addition, being predominately left footed in an area which is known to concern Maritimo technical staff, could also prove to be benefit.

Diario do Noticias - 15 de Fevereiro de 2005

 

[juventus11]

I will stay till I retire
Alberto Gilardino has recently just stated after the 3-0 win over Man City,
He would like to stay at Manchester Matteo United till he retires.

Manchester Matteo United3 -0 Man City

Gilardino
Gilardino
Gilardino

His shocking second goal was a extream goal, infront of the penelty box a exellent volley.
I will stay captain said Matteo.

Table

1. Manchester Matteo United
2. Real Racing
3. Manchester City
4. Norwich city

We are certain to make it to the divison 1.

First Negotiation round

Macco --> out<------- Acuilani in
Morfeo
It seems that Manchester Matteo united have been interested in Morfeo for a while. But Parma never accepted.

Comment from Bonera
I was on loan at Manchester Matteo united, And I wasnt playing well, But they treated me really good. I would like to join them and play for them.
Stromer Banned
27 year old defender Stromer failed the drugs test so he will be banned for 7 monthes.

Top scorer: Alberto Gilardino
Top Assists: Caracciolo
Best right now : Gilardino

I was knocked out of the Division 2 cup.........

THIS IS CNN WE WILL HAVE NEWS SOON

 

[gerd]

Db, your last post is so realistic.
RKC Waalwijk is known as a "last chance" club for players who have had troubles. During the second half of the '80's they had Belgian player Dirk Goossens who once was considered as one the biggest Belgian talents (and then we had very good players and teams), who played for Anderlecht but didn't make it...Things started to deteriorate and he even ended up in jail for robberies...Afterwards there was only one club interested in him: RKC.

You are a walking encyclopedia my friend.

 

[juventus11]

Gerd tell me about your ml?

 

[denirobob]

Db, your last post is so realistic.
RKC Waalwijk is known as a "last chance" club for players who have had troubles. During the second half of the '80's they had Belgian player Dirk Goossens who once was considered as one the biggest Belgian talents (and then we had very good players and teams), who played for Anderlecht but didn't make it...Things started to deteriorate and he even ended up in jail for robberies...Afterwards there was only one club interested in him: RKC.

You are a walking encyclopedia my friend.

he he, really mate ? thats crazy. it's a bit like Bolton to some extent, willing to take a chance on a player who has lost his way somewhat (thinking Jardel, diouf etc...), although not as extreme by the sounds of it.

Do you think my (sorry the newspaper reporters) assesment of Teixeira was reasonable ? i read that he got booked twice within two minutes playing against Ajax a few years ago!

Perhaps, and I appreciate your pretty busy at the moment with 3 simultaneous management jobs, you'd consider operating as Maritimo's eyes and ears in the Low Countries. Giving me the nod about any hidden Belgian, Dutch or even Luxembourgese ?!? gems that I should know about.

I'd be happy to return the favour to Sociedad, Wolsburg and Birmingham.

Let me know, and i'll get my people to talk to your people etc...

Db

 

[juventus11]

Your posts are great!
I wish myn where good myn suck

 

[denirobob]

Your posts are great!
I wish myn where good myn suck

hi mate,

I think your posts are fine, especially considering they aren't in your own language.

If i had to post in Italian or Portuguese for that matter, my posts wouldn't even make any sense.

keep going!

Db

 

[denirobob]

has anybody ever played or considered playing catennacio in their Master League ? either just in 1 game or for a whole season ?
I have been thinking of possibly using this system in the future, if i am away from home against some of the big guns in the Iberian Division.

I was thinking of a formation like this...


--------GK--------
--------SW-------
RB ---CB---CB---LB
-------------------
----DM/CM--------
SM-------OM----SM
--------------------
--------ST---------


any thoughts much appreciated.

DB

 

[juventus11]

Stromer Banned 7 monthes
The 27 year old defender has been banned for 7 monthes, He is a sub but coach matteo has been suprised to hear such a thing since Stromer is a failur to the team. But did he drug him self for better playing or for being happy.
Thats the investigation right now.
Acuilani Set to join tonight
The 21 year old Roma player has sighned the contract and will be arriving at Manchester Matteo United training grounds.

Im happy to join `says Acuilani

Manchester Matteo United will be visiting Real Sociedad for the next league match.
Injury till the end of the season
Ex-Atalanta player Montolivo has a calf injury and will be out for the rest of the season.
He got injured in the Man City match when he was about to shoot but came a terrible foul from behind.
RACISTS `says M'bami
They are all racists ive been sent off for a small foul.
Yesterday night in the match against Real Racing, Javi Guerrero fouled M'bami from behind and the refferies where laughing, when I did a foul, it was a small foul and I was sent off!
I will not take this anymore!
Also Okocha was shouted by raciel chants and was upset going out of the stadium.
The F.A has been really angry and will be checking out each match carefully.
Everyone is Italian thats good
Matteo the coach has boughtan everyone Italian, only 2 players arent and they are M'bami and Okubo.
Im happy I can talk in Italian, this coach is amazing he deserves a clap (CLAP)(CLAP)
Balon D'or

Best attaker in the world was awarded to Alberto Gilardino, And was awarded best player playing in the national team of Italy.
He has become amazing, says Andriy Shevcheko ex- Balon d'or winner, I hope the very best to the amazing kidd, hes only 23.
I wish him luck. Thank you.

 

[Metallica]

Whilest playing in Division 1 league is it possible to look at the Division 2 league table ?

 

[nerf]

has anybody ever played or considered playing catennacio in their Master League ? either just in 1 game or for a whole season ?
I have been thinking of possibly using this system in the future, if i am away from home against some of the big guns in the Iberian Division.

I was thinking of a formation like this...


--------GK--------
--------SW-------
RB ---CB---CB---LB
-------------------
----DM/CM--------
SM-------OM----SM
--------------------
--------ST---------


any thoughts much appreciated.

DB

It's something I have always thought about dabbling in but without really experimenting to any great extent. I'd be very interested to hear how you get on.

To my knowledge, in catenaccio the sweeper played behind four man markers (back in the days when the opponents used to field four attackers!). Those man markers would track their individually assigned targets, shut them down and 'tactically foul' if necessary.

I guess you'd be looking at defenders with the Marking ability, plus high Balance for toughness, and defence arrows set to High. The sweeper, obviously, would need to be quick.

Inter used elements of the Catenaccio tactic to limit their opponents' game. At the same time, the pace, vision and technique of Inter's strikers and midfielders enabled them to go the length of the pitch with three or four passes when the side did win the ball back. Herrera drilled his requirements in terms of passing and movements into the players' heads to the point where it was almost second nature and few teams had found ways of coping with it.

So I guess you'd need midfield players with high Pace, Accelleration, Attack and Aggression. Counter-attack set to A, team mentality set to Auto-Defence?.

 

[PLF]

Hey some comments i have.

@Juve11, your stories are getting better man... i'm liking it good job !! Plus DB is right.. if most of us had to post in another language.. i know i wouldn't even make any sense! so you're doing good and by doing this your english can only get better

@Gerd - Good to hear from you again man... its been a while... although doing 3 ML is too much for me personally as i like to know EVERYONE in my squad and their abilities and with 3 ML... i'm kinda pushing it.

@DB: Great news article.. lol how do you do it man?????? you're a genius and great stories keep it up. I don't even know if there are any Luxombergi players in the game?

@Nerf, You are soon becoming one of my fav posters here... very intelligent posts all the time and we seem to have same taste for lot of things. Thanks for the compliment about Getafe... and glad Ricardo Souza is settling in well

I will post more details about Getafe's squads soon.

As for DB, I haven't tried that formation you said exactly but i do quite often switch to a 4-5-1 when playing against much stronger team or have taken the lead and want to keep it. so i have deloped a lone striker formation quite often and got it to work but playing with 5 in the back... no i haven't done.

 

[juventus11]

Thanks all that commented.
You all have good stories!

 

[Stringer Bell]

Ricardo Sousa is settling in really well now. I'm playing him in a marauding OMF role in my three-man midfield, feeding the ball to his feet whenever possible. He's got a rare bit of quality that the rest of the team just don't have at all.

Is he the uryaian Int'l who plays atlectico madrid.

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Has anybodyhere downloaded the pesfan v3 option file.......the bad thing about it is the have got all classic and secrect players unlocked......i just kept my old option file because it will mess up my ML

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PLF i saw your tactics thread over at Pesfan

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This is a bit offtopic but who saw GOL! yesterday. They showed inter play and myhalvic (<-- blame konami) scored some flipping cracking goals.......also do you lot watch eurogoals.

 

[Stringer Bell]

A quick question here is there a team in italy with the name FC Scicly or something......i want to start a ML with a make believe team.

SAFE

 

[PLF]

Is he the uryaian Int'l who plays atlectico madrid.

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Has anybodyhere downloaded the pesfan v3 option file.......the bad thing about it is the have got all classic and secrect players unlocked......i just kept my old option file because it will mess up my ML

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PLF i saw your tactics thread over at Pesfan

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This is a bit offtopic but who saw GOL! yesterday. They showed inter play and myhalvic (<-- blame konami) scored some flipping cracking goals.......also do you lot watch eurogoals.

No I think you're talking about Richard Nunez who was signed by Atletico in January transfer window.

we're talking about Ricardo Souza a Portugese who's on loan from Hannover to De Grafschap with over-rated stats

YEah that tactical discussion has some great info on how to best utilize "Covering" back-ward arrows and many other things that peopple THINK they know... but they're not fully sure of.. but now its kinda turning into bullshit with all these new guys coming and posting their super unrealistic formations there.... the purpose of the thread wasn't for everyone to come POST their FORMATION anyways... it was there so each one of us can FULLY understand... how each player behaves differently for example when given BACK-ward arrow vs. having HIGH Defence... or how a OMF would act if he's playing where a RM would play but has his role set to OMF instead of RM. things like that...

anyways we're getting off-topic now.

yeah i watched Inter vs. Roma... and Mihajlovic scored both goals from freekicks. He's just unstoppable from freekicks

 

[nerf]

'Improve or I walk', reveals Ricardo

Star midfielder Ricardo Sousa slammed De Graafschap today by claiming that the club is not up to his standards.

Now a year into his three year contract, the Portuguese playmaker revealed his frustration at the club's lack of progress after his side crashed out of the first round of the Division 2 Cup for the third consecutive season.

"It was disappointing to let our lead slip so easily and it cost us", the 26 year old complained. "It wouldn't be so bad if we were competing with the teams at the top of the division but right now I can't see that happening."

"Yes, it's frustrating. As a player you want to win things or feel like you have the potential to. I don't feel that here at the moment. You watch teams like Monaco last year, or Sparta this year, and you want to be up there challenging."

The Superboers only managed one victory in the first half of the season and have slipped to a disappointing 70th in the WEFA Rankings. Rumours have spread that the Doetinchem-based club need to raise €3.5 million between now and the end of the season to balance the books, fuelling speculation that Ricardo Sousa, signed from German club Hannover 96 for €4.8 million a year ago, could well be on his way out when the transfer window opens next week.

This speculation is further provoked by an alleged bust-up between the midfielder and his teammates. It is claimed by various sources that Ukrainian forward Ruslan Valeev, talking privately to summer signing and compatriot Anatoliy Tymoshchuk, was overheard saying: "Ricardo, our most creative player? Maybe if he didn't shoot every time he gets forty yards from goal..."

Fans' spokesperson Ramón Gieling scoffs at the suggestion that Ricardo Sousa could be leaving the club. "He's going nowhere. Ricardo is easily our best player, since he arrived he has been head-and-shoulders above the rest of the team. Why would we sell? Valeev is bitter because he used to be the star and now Ricardo is getting the attention. He should concentrate on his own form."

The full extent of the rift remains to be revealed. In the meantime, it is believed that several Division 1 teams including the likes of Bayer Leverkusen are keeping tabs on the unsettled player and may make a move during the transfer window.

 

[PLF]

very nice Nerf! Great wording and journalism too! but again you're English aren't you?? so its not that hard...

 

[nerf]

Thanks PLF. And you're absolutely right, if you asked me to post in Italian or something I doubt I could string two words together :o

 

[PLF]

Yeah same here! I'd probably have trouble doing it in my mother tongue language Farsi as well though which is kinda sad.

Anyways here's some more about my Getafe squad: (Part II)

- The original Getafe team barely has any youngsters. While there are only few real oldies (only 3 above 30), there is no younsters except 18 year old Albiol who's a SMF. I'm training him from early age to also be able to play as DR though as i think he's quite descent at defending as well and at 188cm, he can be an asset to any defence when dealing with crosses. He's got a lot to learn though and far from 1st team football at the moment but looks to have great potential.

- Apart from Albiol really.. there is no one else who improves much when playing... the reason for this is most of my squad is either at their PEAK or PAST their peak and continually decreasing in stats.

- Nano my 24 year old DL does improve a little bit but is almost at his peak so he won't ever become a REAL star and his stats will pretty much stay crap like they are right now but he's still good enough for my team!

- So I'd say Getafe has no real talent of their own except Albiol to develop and if they want to stop relying on transfer market and have their own youngsters come up from B team... they're gonna have to do some serious scouting and buy foreigners or other Spanish players at really young age and eventually promote them to 1st team. The squad is quite old overall.

Gica announces retirement at end of season

In an interview with Getafe's Romanian hero, Gica as he's known around the "Alfonso Perez" Estadio said that he'd hang up his boots at the end of the season.

In a season where Getafe have hugely impressed and currently sit 6th and only 3 points behind 2nd placed Barcelona, Gica has once again emerged as one of the irreplaceable members of the team and Getafe fans will surely miss him once he officially retires in June.

This is taken from an interview with Getafe captain: Gica Craioveanu

1. What do you think is the main factor behind Getafe's impressive start to life in La Liga an did you ever think, come January 2005, you'll be sitting in a European spot and challenging the likes of Barca?

To be honest I think PLF's appointment as Getafe's head coach has been a major factor in our success thus far. At first when club president, Angel Torres Sánchez announced that Quique Flores who got us promoted in the 1st place... was stepping down as coach... the whole team really had low morale. We really loved Quique and were skeptical of any other manager that would be appointed no matter what his qualifications. But once we especially heard about this virtually unknown Iranian manager being appointed as our coach, we really had no reason to be really optimistic.. I thought this was going to be a quick ticket back to Segundo division.

But I have to say after working with him for 5 months now... I have the utmost respect for PLF and firmly believe that under Quique we wouldn't be sitting 6th in La Liga in our first season in 45 years right now. Don't get me wrong Quique was a great manager but PLF has brought a whole new sense of enthusiasm and confidence to Alfonso Perez and everytime we step onto the pitch... we feel cocky and confident that we can take points off ANY TEAM. We're not at all intimidated by any team.. whether it be Valencia, Barca or agains the Galaticos.

Getafe were the 1st team to take points off Real Madrid this season and the ONLY team to have done it so far.

Madrid have won 14 out of 15 matches with 1 draw against the surprise package of the season, Getafe!

You can see it in our match against Barcelona... we dominated the match and eventually came out with a well-deserved 2-0 scoreline and got 3 vital points.

I always believed in the group of lads we have here... and knew that under someone who can make us feel confident and believe in ourselves we could achieve something like this.

2. Talking about the Barca game, the goal you scored to clinch the game has been voted BEST GOAL of 1st half of season so far in a poll on our website.

Well... i'm not going to sound like an angel here... by saying oh it was nothing.. yeah it was pretty especial and one that I will remember for many years to come. I'd gotten the ball on halfway line... went past Xavi and Albertini and then saw Barca's 2nd choice GK: Joarquera way out of his line... so i just hit a fast looping shot with a lot of curl which JUST curled inside the post in last minute and went in. It was one of the best moments of my life and perhaps my best goal ever.

3. Does Getafe's current impressive position in the table have anything to do with your decision to retire at the end of the season?

No I wouldn't say it was a definite factor in my decision but it sure did help make it easier. It's something I had been thinking about for a few years now... and having got the club promoted... I was eager to postpone my retirememnt decision one year so i can play in La Liga with my beloved Getafe and see us enjoy life in La Liga. But at age of 36, although I feel i still have a lot to give the club.... maintaining match fitness has become steadily harder and as you can see the manager plays me in about 60% of the matches because i'm not always in 100% condition but i'm glad to see Ruben Reyes who's a talented left-winger given more time to shine this season.

At the end of the day... I think now would be the best time to say goodbye. I feel i don't have as much left in me as I did few years ago and that means.. i'm near end of my footballing career and I think with the season we're having... and how we're exceeding everyone's expectations... it'd be best for me to retire while still on top.

Well Thanks a lot for your time Mr. Craioveanu and we wish you the best of luck in the future.

Gica: Thank you!

 

[PLF]

Out of context:

Gica and about 8 other players from my team are having their stats drop severely even at mid-season in 1st season.

Gica himself now has 69 stamina but still technically gifted and will have a lot to offer the club for the next 6 months I feel before hanging up his boots and us looking for a serious replacement for him although it will be hard to replace... a #10, a Captain and a class-act all together.

Thank you Gica for everything!

 

[gerd]

Perhaps, and I appreciate your pretty busy at the moment with 3 simultaneous management jobs, you'd consider operating as Maritimo's eyes and ears in the Low Countries. Giving me the nod about any hidden Belgian, Dutch or even Luxembourgese ?!? gems that I should know about.

I'd be happy to return the favour to Sociedad, Wolsburg and Birmingham.

Let me know, and i'll get my people to talk to your people etc...

Db

I'm quite honoured by your proposal Db. I'm not sure however if i could fulfill the high standards that you have.
A first try my friend. Seeing the cattenacio style formation that you want to play against the big clubs in the Iberian league you could try Orlando Engelaar. IRL he plays for Belgian club Racing Genk (wish isn't in te game) but NAC Breda or Rhoda JC (i always cofuse those two teams) have a player upfront who is called Engelaar,who is rather big and technically very good, so it has to be the same player...Why don't you send a scout to Holland???

Now about my ML, yesterday Real Sociedad played the away leg against Inter Milan in the semi final of the "CL". Something very strange happened. Real Sociedad were in outstanding form, they beat Inter 0-5...great result with outstanding performances by the team and with Nihat and Arteta in a star role...Of course the home leg still has to be played, but it would be a shame if things would go wrong now.

 

[denirobob]

very nice Nerf! Great wording and journalism too! but again you're English aren't you?? so its not that hard...

Hi Lads,

I'd like to second what PLF said - top class writing mate. I look forward to reading more about a potential rift between Sousa and Valeev. Perhaps taking on the shape of a Sheringham/Andy Cole feud... I await further news with anticipation.

Plf, good info on Getafe, and I liked the interview with Craioveanu. I read somewhere that after the racism at the Bernabeau during the England game, Getafe's chairman decided the best way do show they weren't racist was to "blacken" their faces, Craioveanu had a few comments about it apparently. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1294527/posts

cheers

Db