The "Not happy with PES 2012" thread

[curdstar]

The problem I think when talking about the games/series problems, and this is apparent in all communities to be fair, is that there is a lack of balance and articulation to the feedback. That, and the weird obsession with assigning blame or focusing on wild speculation out with the game itself.

below is an example of how I would like feedback to be articulated.

I agree with the general consensus that the AI is too damned eager to close up shop and pretty bloody well at that. This impacts on overall ebb/flow and variance in play patterns.

However...

It is actually a good thing that the AI can be that good at defending and closing the space. It is a positive that the game can demand more from the user.

The solution therefore would be to balance it better; allow for the AI to show such ability but ensure it is balanced correctly and happens in the right context.

unfortunately, you end up with feedback like this :

''Stupid Konami!!! Teams don't have this super-duper ability in defence and willingness to sit deep every time they are faced with an attack. This is damning evidence that WENB acts as marketing for Jon Murphy. More damaging is the fact the game is developed in Tokyo, by Japanese people, and they know nothing about football and are known to lack knowledge of physics like us cool westerners. They have no money and are leaking 8 million customers per year based on figures pulled out of my backside and the shooting is totally shite as well!''

@Flawed Genius - Your theory is deeply flawed. How ironic. I see you are still obsessed with those numbers put at the bottom of reviews as well.

 

[romagnoli]

Rom, what do you think went wrong in development from when you first tested to the release? Yourself, and the vast majority on here (incl. myself) after the demos were extremely positive over it's potential, more so than any other iteration since PES6. Yet, 3 months post-release and this place is dead, much more so than PES 2011 (which was much less anticipated)

I think the main problem is a lack of direction. Who exactly are Konami targeting?

At the moment it's caught between being a simulation & an arcade experience, achieving neither. It's not fun/accessible enough for the casual audience, and it's sim elements not published or utilised enough for the 'hardcore' audience. It's perception in the mainstream is that of a pick up 'n play kids game, which is far from the reality.

They don't have to take on FIFA, if they have a specific market they can deliver a sufficiently popular game at much less cost then the competition, making it financially viable. Right now they seem to be wanting to attract FIFA's clientele (such as the heavier assisted passing), while still trying to 'satisfy' the older fans.

From reading WENB the other day, Adam seems to be under the impression PES 2012 is selling very well (contradicting it's colossal price depreciation after the release week), justifying Konami's approach. I can't help but feel it's ultimately futile, the core audience that prefers FIFA is unobtainable, as it'll always be prettier/more accessible/more fasionable.

I can't say for certain, my finger's hardly been on the pulse here since the demos came out really and I've been playing games a lot less in general. I've certainly not played much 2012 offline either so I'm not as keenly aware of the common grievances there. I'm not sure if what you say is why things went 'wrong' from the demos to the final game, but it's certainly a valid point to make. PES 2011 was certainly more sure of itself in terms of who it wanted to deliver to, which meant it knew which way to go when it came to a balancing decision.

Seabass's talk about making something more arcadey and fun was pretty late in the day and was the first time I'd heard him say something like that, which almost makes me think it was changing the party line to suit the product rather than designing the product according to a vision. It's something I've felt about FIFA's gameplay as it happens - the identity is there in terms of making things look right (having an amazing animation system already but then adding the impact engine), but that authenticity doesn't carry across to less obvious details like footedness or the need to manage the physical momentum of your team (not just your player).


I still think PES 2012 feels like it had a lot of potential (not technically of course - it's blatantly just the PES 2011 engine, which itself was pretty archaic) but that's not enough when you're talking about the end product. Things like the shooting, the keeping, the lobbed through balls, the weird loss of control of defenders (which was a lot worse before 1.03 but is still there) and the overeffectiveness of speed merchants are easier to forgive in the demo, but the demo's free isn't it? Not to mention offline only, so you don't have to face people who then look to exploit these weaknesses and remind you with every action they take that the game's got problems.

 

[kobashi]

But if PES is still making a lot of money for Konami in its current state, sepling well in Europe if not the UK, then why should they drop out from their perspective? Wouldn't it make more sense to keep earning a profit, if possible accruing a certain amount of funds for a new engine?

The same goes for these arguments about going for a two year cycle. It makes sense for us, but not for EA/Konami at all. They're better off working concurrently with creating a new engine, via a second team.

Konami shareholders would never allow the series to take a backseat for 12 months even if Seabass wanted that.

 

[Flaw3d Genius]

The problem I think when talking about the games/series problems, and this is apparent in all communities to be fair, is that there is a lack of balance and articulation to the feedback. That, and the weird obsession with assigning blame or focusing on wild speculation out with the game itself.

below is an example of how I would like feedback to be articulated.

I agree with the general consensus that the AI is too damned eager to close up shop and pretty bloody well at that. This impacts on overall ebb/flow and variance in play patterns.

However...

It is actually a good thing that the AI can be that good at defending and closing the space. It is a positive that the game can demand more from the user.

The solution therefore would be to balance it better; allow for the AI to show such ability but ensure it is balanced correctly and happens in the right context.

unfortunately, you end up with feedback like this :

''Stupid Konami!!! Teams don't have this super-duper ability in defence and willingness to sit deep every time they are faced with an attack. This is damning evidence that WENB acts as marketing for Jon Murphy. More damaging is the fact the game is developed in Tokyo, by Japanese people, and they know nothing about football and are known to lack knowledge of physics like us cool westerners. They have no money and are leaking 8 million customers per year based on figures pulled out of my backside and the shooting is totally shite as well!''

@Flawed Genius - Your theory is deeply flawed. How ironic. I see you are still obsessed with those numbers put at the bottom of reviews as well.

It's not just scores WENB have been giving PES glowing reviews for years now.

 

[Ipswich69]

Would love to see you try and prove this bs...

See, one of the reasons you and Adam lack credibility and respect is that too often you come across as condescending when responding to criticism of PES and Konami. Case in point: Over at WENB a lad complained today about the way the turf and nets look. He has a point. Fair enough, it's no the most important aspect of PES but proper looking turf, turf cuts and authentic looking nets etc... is an important part of immersion for many "hardcore" time football fans (the ones that frequent these sites set up to discuss the nitty gritty concerning PES). Instead of just taking note of the post or ignoring it you felt the need to post a dismissive and belittling response to it because it's not at the top of your agenda.

Edit: Ah, I see you just edited your response slightly to make it a bit more palatable

 

[info0]

Who was glowing reviews on PES? You serious? PES 2012 is so far the only PES of current gen that broke 8/10 mark...

PES 2011 was 6-7/10 range. Far worse than FIFA which always ends in 9/10 mark (for what, I don't even know... metacritic 91/100 is a bloody joke too, for such broken game like FIFA 12).

PES 2012 on metacritic is 80+/100 which is fair imo.

 

[romagnoli]

Konami shareholders would never allow the series to take a backseat for 12 months even if Seabass wanted that.

Exactly. Money's still coming in, at low cost. Why stop that when one year's income can fund a year of staff training and middleware licensing?

 

[Flaw3d Genius]

Like I said earlier, your theory is flawed.

Meh, can't be bothered entering into discussion any longer with a user who clearly preaches inter-community divide and looks to do little else other than speculate wildly on something they know absolutely nothing about.

The real irony is that you have bestowed greater importance on WENB than we dare dream. You are a weird obsessive.

I can link you to the reviews if you like and then you can try and deny that they are not glowing reviews? The last 2 years have been especially have ripped the arse right out of it.

 

[Nobleknight]

I can link you to the reviews if you like and then you can try and deny that they are not glowing reviews? The last 2 years have been especially have ripped the arse right out of it.

http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/pes2012-the-wenb-review/

9/10

 

[curdstar]

I can link you to the reviews if you like and then you can try and deny that they are not glowing reviews? The last 2 years have been especially have ripped the arse right out of it.

What does it matter? it is an individual take and one that is a shared view amongst, yes, some hardcore PES players but not all. Imagine that! An opinion that is agreed by some and not by others. On the the internet!!

Again I need point out that you are giving us too much credit regards our impact on the development (or lack of if you care to think that way) of PES based entirely on our review scores. Nice to know that we(continue) to get under your skin though and thanks for the hits on the front page.

http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/pes2012-the-wenb-review/

9/10

Well done nobleknight91, you linked up a review and identified the score at the bottom. You disagree and yet the world is still turning on it's axis.

If I recall, you were blaming Adam and others for lying to you, no? That speaks more for your lack of independent thought than it does our own opinion.

A few posts ago I commented on all that is wrong within all community feedback discussion and here it is in glorious technicolour again. Thanks for proving me 100% correct in my assertion.

 

[Nobleknight]

What does it matter? it is an individual take and one that is a shared view amongst, yes, some hardcore PES players but not all. Imagine that! An opinion that is agreed by some and not by others. On the the internet!!

Again I need point out that you are giving us too much credit regards our impact on the development (or lack of if you care to think that way) of PES based entirely on our reviews.



Well done nobleknight91, you linked up a review and identified the score at the bottom. You disagree and yet the world is still turning on it's axis.

If I recall, you were blaming Adam and others for lying to you, no? That speaks more for your lack of independent thought than it does prove anything regards ourselves.

I don't blame anyone here.But how will you accept my opinion about the game if you think that its 9/10 ??

 

[Ipswich69]

@Ipswich69 - You still haven't proven your conspiracy theory to be true. If you don't like the site or us as individuals, it matters not and you are entitled to feel how you feel...just like I am entitled to call you out on your conspiracy theories that certainly do lack credibility. it's all in your head, and while you dream up tenuous links as to how WENB are somehow responsible, those in the community who do want to progress the game based on grounded, well articulated feedback will carry on doing what we do.

Isn't it enough to simply not agree or do you need there to be something more sinister in order to qualify your take on matters?

It is what it is. There's a great bunch of lads on the Evo-web, PESFan and WENB forums but I hope to see a change in the way you relate to the PES community in 2012. Cheers.

 

[Nobleknight]

Again, complete and utter focus on the number at the bottom of the review.

It isn't about me accepting your opinion of the game either, with all due respect I don't care what number you would assign PES2012 on the scale of 1-10. I am always happy to discuss the games and will continue to do so, even with those who disagree. What I won't do is entertain trolls who wish to focus on number assignment after a body of text, and how they feel compelled to tell me how ''incorrect'' it is, not only in their opinion, but how factually incorrect it is for everybody and how there simply must be something more sinister afoot.

The simple fact is you (and Flawed Obsessive) are trying to pick out that score as an abnormality, when it isn't. There are two print publication reviews which come immediately to mind that also gave it a 9 (not that the number bloody matters!) and the reviews were written by seasoned PES players, whom I have absolutely no doubt will have their credentials questioned in a follow up post - another unfortunate norm in these discussions. It's boring and most of all, it isn't the reason to be unhappy with PES2012...unless you believe in conspiracy theories.

ok if you want to forget about scores then ok.But what will you say about different gameplay when you change stadiums and match time ?!
Isn't PES supposed to work out of the box with the same gameplay in whatever settings you use

that's a serious problem in PES , that must be solved.
That tiny part kept me from playing PES

 

[henrys hand]

Why are you all so gung-ho about WENB, they didn't develop the game in the last five years, they only hyped it, it's Konami alone that is responsible for the state PES is right now.

We all know about WENB's hyping and banning people (myself included) left and right for countering the hype with some doubts, it hurts a bit, but afterall, it's just an internetforum.

The developer is Konami, Seabass and his team, so Adam is allowed to coordinate the marketing a bit, who cares? It will just mean we will see more of the game while in development and get even more hype.

The problem is not WENB, it's Konami for having wasted five years with an outdated engine instead of having invested the money and talent to create something new from scratch that would make this gen proud.

I hate to say this but Fifa is currently the way better football-game, it is way more realistic. Yes, it misses some keyelements, like momentum/inertia and a two-tiered-stamina/fatigue-system (this one is missing in PES as well) as well as deep individuality and proper footplanting, but it does so many other things better than PES.

And that is because EA did the right thing and invested in a new engine starting with Fifa 07, animation, physics (ok, with the new dynamic version EA made an own-goal), ballphysics (who would have guessed that?), passing, shooting (who would have guessed that?), freedom (way less rails!), goalkeeper and many things more are way better than in PES 2012.

PES 2012 is nicer when you are on the ball, due to better individuality and less skating and better inertia, but off the ball it's a catastrophe due to all the rails and limits of an outdated engine, and the blatant scripting gives it the rest.

Seriously, I don't like the feeling of Fifa but it's currently the better football-game, by a mile.

The only thing for Konami to do about that is to use a new modern engine and to start from scratch, and to do it better than EA, namely to work on a good momentum/inertia-system as well as a two-tiered-stamina/fatigue-system.

 

[dmxdex2020]

Was playing this game on the ps3 with mates. Most goals i conceaded were from crosses. My defense runs out and the attackers are unmarked. Konami should be ashamed of them selfs for producing this slop. So many basic errors. They are losing my respect. Keepers on pes 11 were better than the shite these are. Keepers have gone backwards on this game. For me if they dont get a new engine bye bye to their great rep.

 

[Flaw3d Genius]

Was playing this game on the ps3 with mates. Most goals i conceaded were from crosses. My defense runs out and the attackers are unmarked. Konami should be ashamed of them selfs for producing this slop. So many basic errors. They are losing my respect. Keepers on pes 11 were better than the shite these are. Keepers have gone backwards on this game. For me if they dont get a new engine bye bye to their great rep.

You need to make sure you have the players marked in the Game Plan screen or else they do tend to run away from players.

Again I need point out that you are giving us too much credit regards our impact on the development (or lack of if you care to think that way) of PES based entirely on our review scores. Nice to know that we(continue) to get under your skin though and thanks for the hits on the front page.

Your like a broken record, anyone that questions WENB dodgy reviews of PES 2008 to 2012 you have replied with the said comment of "Nice to know that we(continue)to get under your skin" comment to at least 5 other people on various forums.

Your a phoney Curdstar towing the Konami partyline, Have you heard yourself on the podcasts? You agree with Adam on everything yet at times you can tell you disagree with him but your too afraid to voice your own opinions......Adams little Yes Man.

 

[dmxdex2020]

You need to make sure you have the players marked in the Game Plan screen or else they do tend to run away from players.




Your like a broken record, anyone that questions WENB dodgy reviews of PES 2008 to 2012 you have replied with the said comment of "Nice to know that we(continue)to get under your skin" comment to at least 5 other people on various forums.

Your a phoney Curdstar, Have you heard yourself on the podcasts? You agree with Adam on everything yet at times you can tell you disagree with him but your too afraid to voice your own opinions......Adams little Yes Man.

They are mate i even have a gameplay patch PC version. I have tried it on both pc and console. Game issues that i would hope konami see and fix as long as they dont listen to the morons on wenb.

They should use these forums as the fanbase.

 

[dmxdex2020]

Again, complete and utter focus on the number at the bottom of the review.

It isn't about me accepting your opinion of the game either, with all due respect I don't care what number you would assign PES2012 on the scale of 1-10. I am always happy to discuss the games and will continue to do so, even with those who disagree. What I won't do is entertain trolls who wish to focus on number assignment after a body of text, and how they feel compelled to tell me how ''incorrect'' it is, not only in their opinion, but how factually incorrect it must therefore be for everybody and how there simply must be something more sinister afoot.

The simple fact is you (and Flawed Obsessive) are trying to pick out that score as an abnormality, when it isn't. There are two print publication reviews which come immediately to mind that also gave it a 9 (not that the number bloody matters!) and the reviews were written by seasoned PES players, whom I have absolutely no doubt will have their credentials questioned in a follow up post - another unfortunate norm in these discussions. It's boring and most of all, it isn't the reason to be unhappy with PES2012...unless you believe in conspiracy theories.

Clearly this game has fallen far from the tree. Adam chats rubbish, Coming out saying the keepers are fine in his podcast on his review of the full game. He needs to stop licking konamis arse and tell them the fans are not happy with this buggy game with an engine that is fair to dated now.

It doesnt take a genius to work out that even alot of the harden pes fans have jumped ship to fifa.

 

[stephen]

So fucking true!!

 

[Nobleknight]

Clearly this game has fallen far from the tree. Adam chats rubbish, Coming out saying the keepers are fine in his podcast on his review of the full game. He needs to stop licking konamis arse and tell them the fans are not happy with this buggy game with an engine that is fair to dated now.

It doesnt take a genius to work out that even alot of the harden pes fans have jumped ship to fifa.

no Adam will say that PES sales are good this year
really?? I bought the game then sold it , can it be counted as a sold copy

the quality of a product is not only by sales but by the general impression it have on the market (fans)

 

[dmxdex2020]

What does seabass mean by his take on pes 13?

I only hope its a new engine otherwise sod pes now until they give us what we want. Evolution my arse.

http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/pes-2013-will-be-very-different-seabass/

If you believe this mr seabass im sorry but your deluded.

Shingo ‘Seabass‘ Takatsuka: For me, “Pro Evolution Soccer” is a little ahead of “FIFA”. It is therefore important to continue implementing new and different things. To be honest, we left that aside and we are very sorry.

 

[Messiah Ban Victim]

I wish curdstar was as polite on his ''own'' forums as he trys on other forums.

But ok, what ever you think about them, positive or negative. a 9 given for 2012, and all the other ''next'' gens way to overated. It just make no sense at all.

I wonder, do you play other games, and by this i dont mean fifa, but all games from different genres. How it looks, how it plays, all options etc etc.

Cause when you look at pes 2012, there is no way that this game can get a 9 compaired to other games on the marcet. It would not even deserve a 9 compaired to old footy games. It just cant.

Unless you are blind or not completely fair.

Now, look at what all these close to perfect reviews brought us: nothing. Pes is just not moving forward, and yes, me too thinks that when a community leading forum tells konami the game is worth 8s and 9s every year it slows down progress.

Hey, if i was konami i would not change much too. DOnt fix it when it s not broken.

But in fact all othger forums but 1 complain for years and years and on wenb they ban every member for nothing. ANd this all with an attitude......... i dont know....

often when i read adam or curdstar i am thinking.. hey guys: are we still discussing a game or a religeon? As if they are the preachers and everybody else has to follow or get out.

its a bit sad.

6 years without a decend footy, and next year the most hated pes person alive is in the team: yippakayee......

 

[lancers]

What does seabass mean by his take on pes 13?

I only hope its a new engine otherwise sod pes now until they give us what we want. Evolution my arse.

http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/pes-2013-will-be-very-different-seabass/

If you believe this mr seabass im sorry but your deluded.

Shingo ‘Seabass‘ Takatsuka: For me, “Pro Evolution Soccer” is a little ahead of “FIFA”. It is therefore important to continue implementing new and different things. To be honest, we left that aside and we are very sorry.

If he had something decent in his back pocket for next year the game would already be out now. Obviously his team never leaned to program for the newer generation machine. While not perfect by any means I think FIFA is miles ahead technically and is more fun. Last time I looked both were video games. The main object is to have fun playing the game. You won't get a simulator on this generation hardware EA has already gone as far as they can now.
As for Konami expect more of the same so long as these guys are in charge. They must believe their hard core fans will swallow every effort and look under its ugly skin for something positive. Of course FIFA and its slick presentation has to be shallow cause it looks so damn good.

 

[Messiah Ban Victim]

Ok, maybe its true konami has problems on next gen.

And this year, i gotto say, big respect for bringing out a game after the tsunami.

But what pisses me off that konami does not understand the word ''Fan'' anymore. Fans will not let konami down when they bring on a bad game. No, we want to help, give suggestions to get pes back on track.

But konami thinks a fan is something evil that needs to be lied to or else he would not buy the product anymore.

I think they should turn 180 degrees in there approach to their costumers. Cause years of lying is only costing them the real fans. And that pile of hardcore fans is degenerating fast.

Play it fair, tell whats possible and whats not. Then i am willing to buy a minor priduct, just sfor showing support and to help to get you back.

Maybe its somewhat naive to think like this, but i see it with other big triple a companys: the better they listen to their community the better the games get.

And the more they lie, they lose more costumer and eventuely die as a franchize.


But. its not only konami. Many japanese game houses have pronblems to catch on the western game world. I think communication, a lack off, is one of the reasons.

But maybe.... i am all wrong, ;-).

ps. i am dutch, so i am sure i made some grammer mistakes. sorry for that.

 

[pes4lyfe]

maybe ill reinstall pes 2011.
Inever played it much last year

 

[curdstar]

Your like a broken record, anyone that questions WENB dodgy reviews of PES 2008 to 2012 you have replied with the said comment of "Nice to know that we(continue)to get under your skin" comment to at least 5 other people on various forums.

Your a phoney Curdstar towing the Konami partyline, Have you heard yourself on the podcasts? You agree with Adam on everything yet at times you can tell you disagree with him but your too afraid to voice your own opinions......Adams little Yes Man.

Cool! You listen the podcasts as well? Top man. Just a pity you take your obsession with other peoples views a little too far but pobody's nerfect, eh?

What kind of person goes out there way to sit through 1hr+ at a time of folk whom they don't like discussing a topic and offering views in which they don't respect? I bet you try and convince yourself what you are actually doing is some kind of investigative journalism on behalf of ''real'' fans and exposing ''the truth''. Deary me.

As many who have taken their own little pot-shots have said, WENB has nothing really to do with where the game is or why people might not like it yet you are utterly convinced that this is the case and cling on to your wonky little conspiracy theories that somehow WENB should be held accountable.

 

[pj_puttz]

Your like a broken record, anyone that questions WENB dodgy reviews of PES 2008 to 2012 you have replied with the said comment of "Nice to know that we(continue)to get under your skin" comment to at least 5 other people on various forums.

Your a phoney Curdstar towing the Konami partyline, Have you heard yourself on the podcasts? You agree with Adam on everything yet at times you can tell you disagree with him but your too afraid to voice your own opinions......Adams little Yes Man.

THAT is definitely how you are coming across here curdstar. Your comments defending Adam and WENB are laughable. You are Konami boot lickers posing as an independent forum and you know it.

Your earlier post quoting "sources" about new engines and the future of PES was hilarious. Those quotes mean absolutely NOTHING! It's merely a Konami employee doing his PR bit and telling you he cant really tell you anything but he's "excited" and you are pissing your pants with expectation over it. It's a marketing sound bite and nothing more. The exact same shit they and every other company on the planet come out with every single year when they are promoting a product.

Some people dont like the way they are treated on WENB and after reading a few of your angry posts on here I can see why. You're obviously not used to reading criticism of your work, probably because you ban anyone who does it over in your own domain.

Adam seems to think he's VERY involved in the production of PES these days yet you seem to think he has nothing to do with it? You need to get your stories straight I think. No one here thinks for a minute you or Adam or WENB is to blame for PES because we know you're just bullshitters with an inflated sense of your own importance. That's why we're ridiculing you.

Hope that clears it up for you.

 

[Lons]

@Pj_putzz

What a hater you are



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[Miro]

Well, it certainly clears up that you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

For the record, yes, we are more involved and all that stuff I posted that you deem to be ''hilarious''? Well, I wouldn't point it out if I were absolutely sure of it's credibility, both regarding the source and what we too know. Sorry if people whom you clearly don't like have a level of access that you don't. Just because you can be all aggressive and sweary in your replies doesn't change the fact that some folk - who you clearly dislike - are better informed.

You don't need to believe (or even like it) but it is a little strange that you are getting so wound up about it. It all reads as nothing more than you hating that people that you don't like having privileges you don't and the easiest thing to do is to therefore arrive at the conclusion that these folk are bought, part of a PR machine or that whatever they do is entirely for personal gain.

You can write here whatever you wish fanboy, this game sucks. No writing changes anything about it .

 

[pj_puttz]

Well, it certainly clears up that you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

For the record, yes, we are more involved and all that stuff I posted that you deem to be ''hilarious''? Well, I wouldn't point it out if I were absolutely sure of it's credibility, both regarding the source and what I too know. Sorry if people whom you clearly don't like have a level of access that you don't. I guess it will just give you more reason to dislike the game. A wee shame.

See it's exactly that sort of arrogant twaddle that has a lot of people here laughing at you.

Your "level of access" has gleaned exactly what? That some Konami exec is "excited" about the future but he cant really talk about it? Wow I truly wish I was in such a privileged postion as yours! Then I too could read the sort of amazing inside info that I could normally only read.......well......pretty much anywhere really.

The fact that you actually think quotes such as "a nice surprise that could await" and "next year will be much different" on a podcast are actually something to get excited about is what I find hilarious. I'm sure the kids you tell what to think on WENB lap that shit right up but adults with a mind of their own see it for the tired old PR bullshit it is.

Your heightened sense of your own importance shines through on every post. I dislike the game because it's crap, not because of you or Adam or WENB but because it's simply crap.

The issue with you and your cronies is that you want to live in a bubble where no one questions your opinions or your knowledge yet you also want to run a public forum.

If you are "more involved" then why are you unhappy about people apportioning you some of the blame for PES being crap? If you have some special "level of access" why is it you never seem to have any actual inside knowledge other than meaningless waffle from podcasts?

Credibility? Level of access?

Whatever gets you through the day mate.